List Mgmt. 2024 Trade & List Management Thread - Part II

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He is leaving Syd simply because he is being played out of position, and wants to play mid.... he will play predominantly mid for us, and rest fwd...


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You state this as fact, unless you know the guy its a guess.
 
Bergman and Hardeman may turn out to be great players, or they may not.

What we do know is that Houston already is one.

He's probably the third best player in a team that went on to reach the preliminary finals.

He's the single most important cog in their rebound game, for which they were one of the better sides throughout 2024.

By comparison, we were among the very worst.

Personally I'm happy to let Viney and Rawlings worry about the salary cap. Its the least challenging part of our predicament.

Putting aside the cost debate for a moment, I struggle to understand how you or anyone else can think Houston wouldn't service an important need for us.
He’s less important than Butters, JHF, Wines, Bergman (he’s an absolute gun) and Drew (takes opponents to the cleaners weekly).

He’s a very good player no doubt.

He’s not close to being worth that amount of money and/or what Port will be asking for in a trade.
 

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If he was a difference maker, no problems.

He’s a HBF and we have pressing needs in every other more important position in the field.

You are underrating him mate.

Having a gun half back with damaging disposal leads to scoring opportunities, that's the modern game. So imo, he is 100% a difference maker.

Three of the most important factors in having a gun half back is ball retention, depth of kicking to break zones and intercept ability. Houston ticks all 3 boxes, plus, he is an excellent one on one defender and ground level player.

He is one of the best kicks in the comp running at over 80% by foot.

He is a meters gained pig averaging +488m per game that launches scoring attacks from half back averaging close to 5 score involvements per game.

He also has 5.3 intercepts per game and 5.1 rebounds per game.

With all that being said, I'm steadfast in not coughing up just our F1 for Houston, mainly because of his age. Ideally, we split pick 2, or our F1, and send a pick around 10 to Port for Houston.
 
You are underrating him mate.

Having a gun half back with damaging disposal leads to scoring opportunities, that's the modern game. So imo, he is 100% a difference maker.

Three of the most important factors in having a gun half back is ball retention, depth of kicking to break zones and intercept ability. Houston ticks all 3 boxes, plus, he is an excellent one on one defender and ground level player.

He is one of the best kicks in the comp running at over 80% by foot.

He is a meters gained pig averaging +488m per game that launches scoring attacks from half back averaging close to 5 score involvements per game.

He also has 5.3 intercepts per game and 5.1 rebounds per game.

With all that being said, I'm steadfast in not coughing up just our F1 for Houston, mainly because of his age. Ideally, we split pick 2, or our F1, and send a pick around 10 to Port for Houston.
When I say difference maker, I’m talking winning games off your own boot. Not just improving the side to plain average from lower than bottom of the barrel.

Martin, Petracca, Cameron level stuff.

He’s not at that level of player, which is what I’d be expecting for that level of investment.
 
You are underrating him mate.

Having a gun half back with damaging disposal leads to scoring opportunities, that's the modern game. So imo, he is 100% a difference maker.

Three of the most important factors in having a gun half back is ball retention, depth of kicking to break zones and intercept ability. Houston ticks all 3 boxes, plus, he is an excellent one on one defender and ground level player.

He is one of the best kicks in the comp running at over 80% by foot.

He is a meters gained pig averaging +488m per game that launches scoring attacks from half back averaging close to 5 score involvements per game.

He also has 5.3 intercepts per game and 5.1 rebounds per game.

With all that being said, I'm steadfast in not coughing up just our F1 for Houston, mainly because of his age. Ideally, we split pick 2, or our F1, and send a pick around 10 to Port for Houston.
Pretty much all this. Great post

The salary cost reflects pulling an AA quality player who is top 3 in his position in the league out of his club. In any case, he immediately comes in as a top 3 player at the club
 
He’s less important than Butters, JHF, Wines, Bergman (he’s an absolute gun) and Drew (takes opponents to the cleaners weekly).
I get that you don't want us to spend a big pick on him, and that's fine. But I disagree with your player assessment on this.

Drew is a classic b-grade defensive midfielder who makes the genuine stars around him look better. Like Rowbottom. You don't need to spend serious money/picks on those types.

I can't think of any single metric that makes Ollie Wines elite.

Bergman is good but he doesn't have the consistent impact that Houston does and he doesn't have his footskills.
 

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Pretty much all this. Great post

The salary cost reflects pulling an AA quality player who is top 3 in his position in the league out of his club. In any case, he immediately comes in as a top 3 player at the club
Top 3?

Saad, Whitfield, Zorko, Sinclair, Stewart, Blakey all in that argument.
 
Maybe Port can go after Caleb Daniel
 
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