Game Day 2024 Trade Period - Lian Yu - that liminal space between trade and draft.

[Ge3ks]

What's the difference?

 

[FallenZero1977]

What's the difference?

If signed as a DFA he goes on the senior list. If signed during SSP he goes on the rookie list

 

[FreoBraddles]

If signed as a DFA he goes on the senior list. If signed during SSP he goes on the rookie list

So we definitely upgrading someone to the main list? As we only have one rookie spot

 

[freo_leo29]

Wonder what channel 9 reported the other day

If narkle isn't nomming for the draft then we are definitely taking him

 

[CaseySibosadoHOF]

So effectively there's a decent chance 2 of our 4 remaining list spots (I'm assuming Knobel re-listing happens) will go to Narkle and Jaren Carr? And Jaren would get a senior list spot in that circumstance? Unless Jaren's somehow still Cat B rookie eligible as a former NGA...I don't mind either move in isolation, but combined it feels a bit wasteful.

 

[Docker82]

So effectively there's a decent chance 2 of our 4 remaining list spots (I'm assuming Knobel re-listing happens) will go to Narkle and Jaren Carr? And Jaren would get a senior list spot in that circumstance? Unless Jaren's somehow still Cat B rookie eligible as a former NGA...I don't mind either move in isolation, but combined it feels a bit wasteful.

Wouldn't qualify for the NGA is my understanding. Father sons often train with NGA players at other teams and that's probably what happened with Carr.

 

[Taylor]

NGA can go straight to the category B rookie list once the preseason draft is done, F/S nominations can go straight to the cat-A rookie list if not bid on during the national draft and preseason draft.

 

[Docker82]

NGA can go straight to the category B rookie list once the preseason draft is done, F/S nominations can go straight to the cat-A rookie list if not bid on during the national draft and preseason draft.

Only issue with Carr is if we're committed to Knobel and Narkle there won't be a list spot.

 

[go_the_dockers]

https://archive.md/ajbeb

The age mock draft

The AFL draft is just weeks away. Here’s where the top-40 prospects could land​

17. Joe Berry (Fremantle)​

Murray Bushrangers/Vic Country
Forward, 181cm, 18/4/2006
Talent League stats (avg): 14.4 disposals, 1.9 goals, 6.7 score involvements
The Age’s August top 30: 16 October top 30: 15
Agility test: N/A 20m sprint: N/A 2km time trial: N/A


Berry is a beauty, and someone recruiters rave about for his speed, running power, agility and goalkicking nous. He runs hard defensively, too. The common belief is Berry will develop quickly once he joins an AFL club, and his skill set and physical assets are ideal for the modern high half-forward role. He could also push up onto a wing, and talent scouts can envision him providing some midfield minutes as well. The Dockers’ list is in good shape without any glaring weaknesses, so they can pick the best player available here. Taj Hotton is also an option.

19. Ollie Hannaford (GWS Giants)​

GWV Rebels/Vic Country
Forward, 180cm, 1/9/2006
Talent League stats (avg): 16.7 disposals, 9.5 contested possessions, 1.2 goals
The Age’s August top 30: N/A October top 30: 20
Agility test: 7.92 secs 20m sprint: 2.95 secs 2km time trial: 7:26 mins
Hannaford’s draft stocks rocketed in the last two months of the year, with his mid-season switch to attack unlocking his potential after he started down back. He is tough as nails, ultra-competitive and boasts a great combination of speed and power – as evidenced at the Victorian combine – that makes him a match-up nightmare. Hannaford’s 2km time was underwhelming, but recruiters largely dismissed it as an issue and were confident he would improve in an AFL system rather than living in a boarding house.

 

[Taylor]

Only issue with Carr is if we're committed to Knobel and Narkle there won't be a list spot.

Then I would expect it to be the same as the Waterman brothers at WC being picked with the last pick we take in the draft, which after pick forty would only need "the next pick" we have anyway so it might mean we sit in the draft right to the end, trading out if anyone wants a slightly better pick.

 

[go_the_dockers]

Then I would expect it to be the same as the Waterman brothers at WC being picked with the last pick we take in the draft, which after pick forty would only need "the next pick" we have anyway so it might mean we sit in the draft right to the end, trading out if anyone wants a slightly better pick.

How many picks do we have in the main and rookie draft?

Did anyone confirm this?

 

[Docker82]

How many picks do we have in the main and rookie draft?

Did anyone confirm this?

Technically we could take as many as five but that involves:

• Going with 38 on the Senior List
• Not upgrading rookies.

What I expect us to take is three picks and upgrade a rookie.

 

[go_the_dockers]

Technically we could take as many as five but that involves:

• Going with 38 on the Senior List
• Not upgrading rookies.

What I expect us to take is three picks and upgrade a rookie.

That only leaves 1 spot on the rookie list, for Narkle I assume.

 

[freo_leo29]

2 year deal for Jack Martin

21

Jack Martin

Age

29

Ht

186cm

Wt

82kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.2

4star

K

10.0

4star

HB

6.3

4star

M

4.9

5star

T

3.7

5star

G

0.9

4star

D

14.9

4star

K

7.9

3star

HB

7.0

4star

M

4.3

4star

T

3.6

4star

G

1.1

5star

D

8.2

2star

K

4.6

2star

HB

3.6

3star

M

1.8

2star

T

2.0

4star

G

0.6

3star

 

[Superkoops]

That only leaves 1 spot on the rookie list, for Narkle I assume.

I thought one of the news stations said we were no longer keen neither Narkle nor Carroll.

I’m assuming we upgrade a player from rookie list and add Knobel and Jaren Carr as f/s via rookie list. I’d expect Carr to passed over the ND. Whilst a couple of clubs are interested like Brisbane I’d expect they would only consider as rookie and if he is bypassed over the ND and PSD he effectively hits our list before the rookie draft.

 

[Docker82]

That only leaves 1 spot on the rookie list, for Narkle I assume.

It's two once we upgrade a rookie - Knobel and Narkle I'd say.

 

[freo_leo29]

Don't think we've opened enough list spots for this draft in the end

 

[Alfonz]

https://archive.md/ajbeb

The age mock draft

The AFL draft is just weeks away. Here’s where the top-40 prospects could land​

17. Joe Berry (Fremantle)​

Murray Bushrangers/Vic Country
Forward, 181cm, 18/4/2006
Talent League stats (avg): 14.4 disposals, 1.9 goals, 6.7 score involvements
The Age’s August top 30: 16 October top 30: 15
Agility test: N/A 20m sprint: N/A 2km time trial: N/A


Berry is a beauty, and someone recruiters rave about for his speed, running power, agility and goalkicking nous. He runs hard defensively, too. The common belief is Berry will develop quickly once he joins an AFL club, and his skill set and physical assets are ideal for the modern high half-forward role. He could also push up onto a wing, and talent scouts can envision him providing some midfield minutes as well. The Dockers’ list is in good shape without any glaring weaknesses, so they can pick the best player available here. Taj Hotton is also an option.

19. Ollie Hannaford (GWS Giants)​

GWV Rebels/Vic Country
Forward, 180cm, 1/9/2006
Talent League stats (avg): 16.7 disposals, 9.5 contested possessions, 1.2 goals
The Age’s August top 30: N/A October top 30: 20
Agility test: 7.92 secs 20m sprint: 2.95 secs 2km time trial: 7:26 mins
Hannaford’s draft stocks rocketed in the last two months of the year, with his mid-season switch to attack unlocking his potential after he started down back. He is tough as nails, ultra-competitive and boasts a great combination of speed and power – as evidenced at the Victorian combine – that makes him a match-up nightmare. Hannaford’s 2km time was underwhelming, but recruiters largely dismissed it as an issue and were confident he would improve in an AFL system rather than living in a boarding house.

Looks like the dream scenario to me. Choose whoever we want from the small forward pool outside Kako. Then take Davis if we think his kicking is OK, or we can go with Oliver/Clarke (in both of whom it sounds we have strong interest) if we prefer a running defender.

 

[Dockeroo]

Don't think we've opened enough list spots for this draft in the end

Tend to agree.
I’d have liked to give Walls 4 dips into the pool this time around for new players between ND and rookie.

Looks like 3 ND picks plus narkle is what we are getting, and maybe one Irish players as Cat B.
Then Shai as a trade.

Overall result compared to 2023 playing list:

OUT:
Matt Taberner
Ethan Hughes
Josh Corbett
Sebit Kuek
Ethan Stanley
Tom Emmett
Conrad Williams (cat B)

7 players out.

IN:
Shai Bolton
Pick 14
Pick 30
Pick 67
Quinton Narkle
One Irish player (cat B)

6 new players in.


45 players listed in total last year, but only 44 this year (the max).

Unless a player does a season ending injury before the draft and is ruled out for 2025 in full (the reason we had 45 instead of 44 last year), we will be selecting just 3 new players in the combined ND and rookie draft.

 

[Docker82]

Don't think we've opened enough list spots for this draft in the end

We're set with 32-5-1 atm with the most likely outcome ending up at 36-6-2.

This assumes we draft three, add two rookies and list one of the Irish guys as a Category B rookie.

 

[freo_leo29]

We're set with 32-5-1 atm with the most likely outcome ending up at 36-6-2.

This assumes we draft three, add two rookies and list one of the Irish guys as a Category B rookie.

Yeah I like the draft so would've preferred a couple more dips tbh

 

[Superkoops]

Tend to agree.
I’d have liked to give Walls 4 dips into the pool this time around for new players between ND and rookie.

Looks like 3 ND picks plus narkle is what we are getting, and maybe one Irish players as Cat B.
Then Shai as a trade.

Overall result compared to 2023 playing list:

OUT:
Matt Taberner
Ethan Hughes
Josh Corbett
Sebit Kuek
Ethan Stanley
Tom Emmett
Conrad Williams (cat B)

7 players out.

IN:
Shai Bolton
Pick 14
Pick 30
Pick 67
Quinton Narkle
One Irish player (cat B)

6 new players in.


45 players listed in total last year, but only 44 this year (the max).

Unless a player does a season ending injury before the draft and is ruled out for 2025 in full (the reason we had 45 instead of 44 last year), we will be selecting just 3 new players in the combined ND and rookie draft.

Is Narkle still an inclusion?

 

[Docker82]

Yeah I like the draft so would've preferred a couple more dips tbh

Not sure the draft is so good that Pick 70-odd is going to add much to our list. Having said that I don't think anyone else is drafting Carr so the pick number for the fourth selection is irrelevant anyway.

 

[Heave Ho Bro]

Love that they have St Kilda and Silvagni bidding on everyone in that mock draft.

 

[theGav56]

Hogan and Stringer had a day out in close games, do we win those 2 games with Hamling's experience?

Good question, but defence is never as simple as one on one matchups. Every single forward line might have a forward line which includes a forward matched up on a lesser defender.

Most of the games where Hogan or Stringer has a day out I prefer to see it as a team structure and coaching issue.