List Mgmt. 2024 Trade Thread - No.2

[ThomasR]

If we are going for pick 3, it must mean we think there is a generational talent up for grabs.

I hope it means we think there are 3 generational talents up for grabs...

 

[St Neil]

Well if John is correct.

We end up with 3+7

FOS/Lalor/Jagga + Smillie

But what else are we giving up in addition to pick 8? What bridges the gap between pick 3 and pick 8?

Hopefully not a future first. And hopefully not pick 27 on its own. Both of those would be terrible deals for us.

Eagles only have picks 3, 26 and 63. They have a vacuum there. That is the worry.

And West Coast wants to maintain a first round pick this year AFTER they trade for Baker.

I’m scratching my head on this one.


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[Yawkey way]

Again, who or what is he replaced with?
Keen to hear who he is holding back.

Pride has nothing to do with it imo, you either want to win or you are a loser. You can’t have it both ways.

But we’re not winning you need to stop this deluded stuff that finishing 12th was a win over finishing 14th. The idea as stated by the club is to build a list that contends and win premierships.

We haven’t won since 1966 how’s that working out for the club and saints supporters, it’s not doing it for me that’s for sure. I can’t speak for thommo but I can think of many ways in which we might replace what jones has provided over 5 seasons from within and perhaps with who we bring in.

If he’s playing at sandy as a backup what’s his purpose within the scope of where we expect to finish in 2025 ?. I’d suggest as thommo has its to stop us dropping a couple of places not to help us climb a few, that’s not winning imo.

 

[St Neil]

Thats a terrible deal.

8 + 27 for 3 + 63.

They can split 8 for a pick and Baker.

I think we are underestimating the value of pick 27 in this draft.

It is still a darn good pick.


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[Hayes4PM]

Even with us not needing to get involved to help other clubs facilitate trades, I have zero confidence in our ability to not **** this up...

 

[Dard Ball Get]

But we’re not winning you need to stop this deluded stuff that finishing 12th was a win over finishing 14th. The idea as stated by the club is to build a list that contends and win premierships.

We haven’t won since 1966 how’s that working out for the club and saints supporters, it’s not doing it for me that’s for sure. I can’t speak for thommo but I can think of many ways in which we might replace what jones has provided over 5 seasons from within and perhaps with who we bring in.

If he’s playing at sandy as a backup what’s his purpose within the scope of where we expect to finish in 2025 ?. I’d suggest as thommo has its to stop us dropping a couple of places not to help us climb a few, that’s not winning imo.

Still no alternative player/pick suggested, I’ll stop asking lol

 

[SainterinSydney]

If we trade out 7 and 8, I'd want 3 and WC future first. With some later pick swaps.

 

[SteeleSaints]

Im a bit conservative so I would like to just keep our picks and take them as they fall. If the club are considering trading one or both picks they obviously are confident on their player rankings and where each player will fall. I think any trades we make will be solely to target specific players, hence if we end up with #3 & #15 it will be because we highly rate a top end player and believe we can get the other kid we want at #15. Thats scary times for an old rusted on supporter like myself but also exciting I guess!

 

[Munga]

Hopefully we're loading up on early picks. Isn't this meant to be a gun draft?

 

[Yawkey way]

Still no alternative player/pick suggested, I’ll stop asking lol

You want me to talk for thommo ?. If it was me I’d just as happily use any combination, of stocker, owens, Higgins who was a prolific mid as a junior, Garcia and so on. Seriously we’re talking about jones not Cripps.

 

[jwikked]

If we trade out 7 and 8, I'd want 3 and WC future first. With some later pick swaps.

I just don't see that as being worth it. No doubt West Coast would be bottom 4 next year, but 2 picks this year is better than waiting another year for a pick.

 

[Yawkey way]

It’s going to be a long few days.


A few deep breaths for those who need it .

 

[Dard Ball Get]

You want me to talk for thommo ?. If it was me I’d just as happily use any combination, of stocker, owens, Higgins who was a prolific mid as a junior, Garcia and so on. Seriously we’re talking about jones not Cripps.

No, you’re in agreement with him so you’d surely have an idea what to do with him. Higgins is laughable tbh lmao
Garcia I agree looks great, Stocker and Owens are worse mids than Zones.

 

[Coconut_twirl]

If we are going for pick 3, it must mean we think there is a generational talent up for grabs.

Except it doesn’t appear that this is the case. There is no standout like with Harley Reid.

 

[Hayes4PM]

It’s going to be a long few days.

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A few deep breaths for those who need it .

Lol, thought that was Nitrous for a second. “To each their own!”.

 

[tommo7]

I’m happy to trade 8, but we must keep 7.
My ideal scenario would be 8+27 for WC 3 and a late pick or two coming back our way.
There are 7 elite mids in the open pool, not 8.

Pick 3 - FOS/Lalor/Jagga/Draper
Pick 7 - Smillie/slider if there is one

Midfield sorted, rebuilt complete.

 

[Tommy Wigs]

That's an incredible deal for us. Can't see it happening though.

Exactly. Eagles aren’t coughing up 3 to 8 for a late 20s pick.

 

[beside the seaside]

I’m happy to trade 8, but we must keep 7.
My ideal scenario would be 8+27 for WC 3 and a late pick or two coming back our way.
There are 7 elite mids in the open pool, not 8.

Pick 3 - FOS/Lalor/Jagga/Draper
Pick 7 - Smillie/slider if there is one

Midfield sorted, rebuilt complete.

Why would West Coast do that? Would be a genuinely terrible trade for them, the AFL would probably block it.

 

[bird_man]

You want me to talk for thommo ?. If it was me I’d just as happily use any combination, of stocker, owens, Higgins who was a prolific mid as a junior, Garcia and so on. Seriously we’re talking about jones not Cripps.

Stocker is no mid. Got played there out of desperation and hardly set the world on fire.

Higgins was tried there a few times by Ratten and was ordinary.

Owens might be able to pinch hot in there but his best position looks forward.

We are really thin for midfielders still. Hopefully we get a couple of good ones this draft but rarely are they ready to jump straight into the engine room from day one.

 

[tommo7]

Why would West Coast do that? Would be a genuinely terrible trade for them, the AFL would probably block it.

The trade must be in our favour or we won’t do it. We hold the position of power in this one.

 

[Yawkey way]

No, you’re in agreement with him so you’d surely have an idea what to do with him. Higgins is laughable tbh lmao
Garcia I agree looks great, Stocker and Owens are worse mids than Zones.

Was he laughable when he was getting leather poisoning in the tac as a mid ? Paddy Dow ring a bell. Sometimes I wonder if I’ve got my wires crossed we are talking and Zak jones here ?.

Jack Higgins Draft Profile

DRAFT ANALYSIS: "One of the smartest small forwards in the Under 18 competition, possessesing great goal nous and can push into the midfield and win the contested ball."

central.rookieme.com

 

[Tommy Wigs]

Boom

I’m going harder at 9 if we’re dropping the F1.

I think nothing much gets me excited in the teens.

 

[Sarcoidevo]

You want me to talk for thommo ?. If it was me I’d just as happily use any combination, of stocker, owens, Higgins who was a prolific mid as a junior, Garcia and so on. Seriously we’re talking about jones not Cripps.

We still need some mid experience in the squad .... Zones was playing some pretty good football towards the end of the season when we beat some highly rated sides

We likely wouldn't get anything for him in a trade and he is probably costing us a base wage on 1 year .... if his body stays sound he adds a bit of mongrel and energy around the ground

 

[Tommy Wigs]

If we are going for pick 3, it must mean we think there is a generational talent up for grabs.

And every chance Richmond swaps with North so that FOS and Lalor are likely off the board.

 

[stavro#4]