List Mgmt. 2024 Trade Thread - No.2

[Joffaboy]

Very interesting. One way of looking at this is that Essendon seem to rate us as likely to have a better 2025 then Melbourne to opt for their future 1st over ours. So yay? I guess?

They are getting two seconds from them, our best was F1 and one second.

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[Hayes4PM]

Melbourne offering 28 and 40 gives the Bombers a lot of points for Kako

You'd think the future 1st would be the deciding factor. If we have a 2nd round pick just after Melbourne and are offering that, any pick later (over pick 40) would be neither here nor there compared to a pick variation of 1 - 18 next year depending on us or them.

 

[triggering bro]

Goodbye 9

Melbourne was reportedly considering Kako at pick 5. They’ve done an absolute number on the Dopers.

 

[Yawkey way]

Very interesting. One way of looking at this is that Essendon seem to rate us as likely to have a better 2025 then Melbourne to opt for their future 1st over ours. So yay? I guess?

Essendon loaded up to win a flag maybe not the best judges of list quality.

 

[St Neil]

This doesn’t make any sense why we aren’t beating Melbourne if that’s there offer.

If we are willing to offer F1 + F2 for 13 to Gold Coast

Surely we would be willing to offer that plus more to beat Melbourne’s offer for 9?

One of these reporters is speculating more than the other

Maybe Saints aren’t including pick 27 in the Essendon deal.


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[stavro#4]

The pick 9 dream is over now that Cal is reporting it

Goodbye 9

We either arnt involved or Essendon are stupid.

Melbourne just gave up a F1, a second a third and swapped 4ths it seems.

Thats heaps and more then us thinking an F1 + second

 

[triggering bro]

Looks like we moved on from pick 9 and are chasing pick 3 instead.

I would not be surprised if Melbourne use 5 and 9 to move up to pick 2 with change coming back.

 

[Hayes4PM]

Dons board in shambles lol.

"We're gonna trade up, no way we'll trade down in a super draft"

"No one is gonna bid on Kako top 10, it's all just bluffing"

You love to see it.

 

[Winmar2Lockett]

I’m happy to trade 8, but we must keep 7.
My ideal scenario would be 8+27 for WC 3 and a late pick or two coming back our way.
There are 7 elite mids in the open pool, not 8.

Pick 3 - FOS/Lalor/Jagga/Draper
Pick 7 - Smillie/slider if there is one

Midfield sorted, rebuilt complete.

8 & 27 for 3 is a good match points wise.

And it still allows us to trade Futures to get another pick in the teens/ twenties.

I like it Tommo


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[Diehard Saint]

I would be happy with McCrae at the Saints. He is a very good footballer, and we no longer have Seb to help out in the midfield, and I dont think we can rely on Brad to play many more games for us. Which leaves us with Jack Steele, Hunter Clark, Marcus Windhaver. as our only eperienced mids.We are getting Frankie Junior, but I dont know what sort of mid he inside or out, apparently he can kick goals so that is a plus. Beside Jack Steele and Windhaver, we are short on inside mids, so that should be considered when we go to this years draft.

Yep.
But not at a ridiculous cost.

 

[stavro#4]

I’m happy to trade 8, but we must keep 7.
My ideal scenario would be 8+27 for WC 3 and a late pick or two coming back our way.
There are 7 elite mids in the open pool, not 8.

Pick 3 - FOS/Lalor/Jagga/Draper
Pick 7 - Smillie/slider if there is one

Midfield sorted, rebuilt complete.

I would love this.

But how does that unlock Baker?

 

[snails13]

Looks like we moved on from pick 9 and are chasing pick 3 instead.

I would not be surprised if Melbourne use 5 and 9 to move up to pick 2 with change coming back.

Bad move if so IMO

 

[SaintTwitch]

So Mowman was right about pick 9 after all...

 

[Joffaboy]

So Mowman was right about pick 9 after all...

Blokes like him, yipper and tony74 don't make things up and have impeccable sources.
Mowman could not have a better source unless it was the Essendon list manager.

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[Sarcoidevo]

Very interesting. One way of looking at this is that Essendon seem to rate us as likely to have a better 2025 then Melbourne to opt for their future 1st over ours. So yay? I guess?

Yes that could well be as there is not much difference to what we were supposedly putting up ... Dees offering that extra 3rd rounder helps Dopers with extra pts and also Dees threatening to callout Kako's name 2 spots ahead of us had our measure

Dees now have Dopers over a barrel and we are resigned to heading back to the bar to see what other harlots are left hanging around with tasty tidbits

 

[stavro#4]

 

[Diehard Saint]

Your point is valid. But to offset that is the opportunity cost of being completely absent from this year’s draft which is being judged to be a very strong one. Even a second round pick could land a gem.
Essentially, Essendon will remove themselves from this year’s draft in the hope of landing a good player next year.

That is appalling list management. But hey, let them do it.

Bombers look to be going nowhere. For a long, long time.


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Isn’t there a rule where you have to draft at least 3 or something?

 

[Sarcoidevo]

Dons board in shambles lol.

"We're gonna trade up, no way we'll trade down in a super draft"

"No one is gonna bid on Kako top 10, it's all just bluffing"

You love to see it.

It warms my insides

 

[stavro#4]

Isn’t there a rule where you have to draft at least 3 or something?

They will get Kako and have a second and third rounder and fourth

 

[tommo7]

I would love this.

But how does that unlock Baker?

I feel it better equips west coast to do a deal with GWS for 15/16, which could go towards Baker.

 

[SteeleSaints]

Very interesting. One way of looking at this is that Essendon seem to rate us as likely to have a better 2025 then Melbourne to opt for their future 1st over ours. So yay? I guess?

I agree with them I believe the bottom will fall completely out of Melbourne with a bottom 4 finish. They have had far too much turmoil, a coach on the nose, no forward line, no flankers and the top end cant carry them for ever.

 

[Dard Ball Get]

Blokes like him, yipper and tony74 don't make things up and have impeccable sources.
Mowman could not have a better source unless it was the Essendon list manager.

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Please stop, he’s getting too cocky in the smoke signal chat

 

[Remboy]

I would love this.

But how does that unlock Baker?

Eagles could split 8 for two teens picks. One for Baker and one for the draft?

 

[Remboy]

Dons board in shambles lol.

"We're gonna trade up, no way we'll trade down in a super draft"

"No one is gonna bid on Kako top 10, it's all just bluffing"

You love to see it.

Are they winning trade week again?

 

[St Neil]

Isn’t there a rule where you have to draft at least 3 or something?

You can use back ended picks to match the number of list spots you have.

However if the rumours of Melbourne now dealing into pick 9 are true then Essendon will at least have an extra pick in the 40s they can now use in addition to the pick in the late 20s they are gaining.


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