List Mgmt. 2024 Trade Thread - No.2

[stavro#4]

With Melbourne likely to get #9, just to add more fuel to the fire - what if Melbourne then gazump us on the WCE deal? #5 & #9 for #3.

Might be the dumbest trade you will ever see.

West Coast would probably give them a BJ because they would feel so guilty accepting it

 

[Joffaboy]

With Melbourne likely to get #9, just to add more fuel to the fire - what if Melbourne then gazump us on the WCE deal? #5 & #9 for #3.

We would still have 7+8+27 and F1

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[Dard Ball Get]

If any of these trades for pick 3 goes through, Dalrymple, SoS, Lyon, Bassat and the temporary receptionist should all get the sack.
If we piss away the draft hand we have been given for a 4 place upgrade in the most even top ten in a decade while other clubs are absolutely desperate to get into the top end, well, we deserve to be an also ran for frigging ever.

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Mate, you need to have a lie down. You are getting over excited by some speculative tweets.

 

[SaintTwitch]

The difference is that Preuss would be 100% free


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I can see your point with Preuss being free, but lets not forget he also did a hammy jumping running through the banner in a VFL game... if we weren't sold on Soldo lasting 3 years, not sure why we would go for Preuss who may not even get through one

 

[BrutThough]

The difference is that Preuss would be 100% free


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Good point. And we would only be tied to 1 year instead of 3

 

[ThomasR]

Tom Morris -

- Saints doctors didn’t think Soldo would last the entirety of the 3 year deal.

Not that I ever wanted him, but it seems he's only contracted for one more year at Port. Why are we proposing a 3 year deal? If he's desperate to get out of SA, couldn't we have offered him the same 1 year deal, with triggers for a second/third? Doesn't add up, but it is a Tom Morris story after all

 

[TheJackal]

3, 7 & 13 - that should absolutely be our target.

It would mean we find a way to turn 8, F1, 27 & (if the AFL allows) an F2 into 3 & 13.

Pick 3 on 1 of Lalor, FOS, Smith or Draper - all wins.

Pick 7 on whoever falls really, probably Smillie

Pick 13 on anyone who is probably available at 8 anyway!

 

[Saint Shags]

Not that Braindead after all

From what i understand we were never a chance

Knowing my luck as I catch up on the next 4 pages something will have already been said. But any word on what we may be aiming for?

 

[stavro#4]

3, 7 & 13 - that should absolutely be our target.

It would mean we find a way to turn 8, F1, 27 & (if the AFL allows) an F2 into 3 & 13.

Pick 3 on 1 of Lalor, FOS, Smith or Draper - all wins.

Pick 7 on whoever falls really, probably Smillie

Pick 13 on anyone who is probably available at 8 anyway!

Agreed.

Otherwise grab 13 and hold 7,8

 

[ThomasR]

With Melbourne likely to get #9, just to add more fuel to the fire - what if Melbourne then gazump us on the WCE deal? #5 & #9 for #3.

I'm more worried they'll gazump us with 9 for 15+16.

5+16 for 3 will make sense for them and should be enough for WC and Baker.

Wasn't an issue when Essendon had 9 as there was no point them splitting... is an issue now

 

[akaifu]

I reckon the West Coast deal might be a 4-way trade with Richmond and Gold Coast, something like the below:

Assuming STK F1 is rated around pick 8 in 2025

STK receive: Pick 3, Pick 13, 63
WCE receive: Liam Baker

3

Liam Baker

Age

26

Ht

173cm

Wt

72kg

Pos.

D/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

15.7

4star

K

7.8

3star

HB

7.9

5star

M

3.2

3star

T

2.6

4star

MG

222.2

3star

D

14.6

4star

K

6.8

3star

HB

7.9

4star

M

3.8

4star

T

1.8

3star

MG

191.9

3star

D

14.4

4star

K

6.2

3star

HB

8.2

5star

M

1.6

2star

T

1.8

4star

MG

224.2

4star

, Pick 8, Pick 19 (from RICH via FRE for Bolton), Pick 51 (for Champion)
RICH receive: STK F1, WCE F2
GC receive: Pick 26, 30 (via Bolton trade), STK F2

In summary:
STK give up pick 8, F1, F2 for pick 3, pick 13, pick 63
WCE give up pick 3, pick 26, F2, pick 63 for Baker, pick 8, pick 19, pick 51
RICH give up Baker, pick 19, pick 30, pick 51 for STK F1, WCE F2
GC give up pick 13 for picks 26, 30, STK F2

STK end up with picks 3, 7, 13, 27, 47, 63

Please don't get mad at me if its unfair to any team, its just to spark some discussion

Happy to update it if someone suggests an improvement

EDIT: it seems like while I was writing this, people have already suggested similar so glad we're on the same wavelength

 

[Dr Spaceman]

Everyone seems to be getting very excited and indeed agitated about stuff they’re seeing on the internet.

Just relax people

 

[triggering bro]

3, 7 & 13 - that should absolutely be our target.

It would mean we find a way to turn 8, F1, 27 & (if the AFL allows) an F2 into 3 & 13.

Pick 3 on 1 of Lalor, FOS, Smith or Draper - all wins.

Pick 7 on whoever falls really, probably Smillie

Pick 13 on anyone who is probably available at 8 anyway!

Would we part with Collard to get this across the line?

 

[Moorabbin Ghost]

We have been involved in discussions over the weekend with Eagles, Tigers, Hawks in regards to the Baker and Barass moves as one trade. We are only in it with regards to pick swaps. I was told tonight that progress has been made but that it’s still a long way off.

 

[True Believer]

I would love this.

But how does that unlock Baker?

WCE trade 8 to GWS for 15 & 16 ??

 

[ronpingwins]

My understanding is that we gain Pick 3 & a F3 in the deal & lose 8 & F1. Giving up an F1 is risky, but pick 3 in this strong draft is highly desirable.

Do you have any further understanding on it? It’s not the rumoured deal that has Richmond getting 8 and West Coast 20 and F1 is it?

 

[HeavenlySources]

3, 7 & 13 - that should absolutely be our target.

It would mean we find a way to turn 8, F1, 27 & (if the AFL allows) an F2 into 3 & 13.

Pick 3 on 1 of Lalor, FOS, Smith or Draper - all wins.

Pick 7 on whoever falls really, probably Smillie

Pick 13 on anyone who is probably available at 8 anyway!

Happy with that, hard to get done 13 seems the extra piece required to get 3 though

 

[St Neil]

With Melbourne likely to get #9, just to add more fuel to the fire - what if Melbourne then gazump us on the WCE deal? #5 & #9 for #3.

West Coast would get their Alan Bond.

A once in a lifetime chump.


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[Saintscomemarchingin]

Good point. And we would only be tied to 1 year instead of 3

Pruess only 29y.o, bit of a surprise, think I was thinking of that past Ruckman for GWS

 

[triggering bro]

I reckon the West Coast deal might be a 4-way trade with Richmond and Gold Coast, something like the below:

Assuming STK F1 is rated around pick 8 in 2025

STK receive: Pick 3, Pick 13, 63
WCE receive: Liam Baker, Pick 8, Pick 19 (from RICH via FRE for Bolton), Pick 51 (for Champion)
RICH receive: STK F1, WCE F2
GC receive: Pick 26, 27, 30 (via Bolton trade),

In summary:
STK give up pick 8, F1, pick 27 for pick 3, pick 13, pick 63
WCE give up pick 3, pick 26, F2, pick 63 for Baker, pick 8, pick 19, pick 51
RICH give up Baker, pick 19, pick 30, pick 51 for STK F1, WCE F2
GC give up pick 13 for picks 26, 27, 30

STK end up with picks 3, 7, 13, 47, 63

Please don't get mad at me if its inaccurate, its just to spark some discussion

Happy to update it if someone suggests an improvement

EDIT: it seems like while I was writing this, people have already suggested similar so glad we're on the same wavelength

 

[Sarcoidevo]

OK lets change tack here for a second

Paton to GWS for ?
Hayes to Collingwood for ?
Membrey is FA so if he goes we likely get nothing

Could we squeeze out some F3s from GWS & Collingwood?

Or are they just waiting for us to delist?

 

[triggering bro]

Pruess only 29y.o, bit of a surprise

Feels like he’s been around since Essendon last won a final

 

[HeavenlySources]

I reckon the West Coast deal might be a 4-way trade with Richmond and Gold Coast, something like the below:

Assuming STK F1 is rated around pick 8 in 2025

STK receive: Pick 3, Pick 13, 63
WCE receive: Liam Baker

3

Liam Baker

Age

26

Ht

173cm

Wt

72kg

Pos.

D/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

15.7

4star

K

7.8

3star

HB

7.9

5star

M

3.2

3star

T

2.6

4star

MG

222.2

3star

D

14.6

4star

K

6.8

3star

HB

7.9

4star

M

3.8

4star

T

1.8

3star

MG

191.9

3star

D

14.4

4star

K

6.2

3star

HB

8.2

5star

M

1.6

2star

T

1.8

4star

MG

224.2

4star

, Pick 8, Pick 19 (from RICH via FRE for Bolton), Pick 51 (for Champion)
RICH receive: STK F1, WCE F2
GC receive: Pick 26, 27, 30 (via Bolton trade),

In summary:
STK give up pick 8, F1, pick 27 for pick 3, pick 13, pick 63
WCE give up pick 3, pick 26, F2, pick 63 for Baker, pick 8, pick 19, pick 51
RICH give up Baker, pick 19, pick 30, pick 51 for STK F1, WCE F2
GC give up pick 13 for picks 26, 27, 30

STK end up with picks 3, 7, 13, 47, 63

Please don't get mad at me if its inaccurate, its just to spark some discussion

Happy to update it if someone suggests an improvement

EDIT: it seems like while I was writing this, people have already suggested similar so glad we're on the same wavelength

If this is the deal I’m back in

 

[Klaatu]

Crossly is trash too slow too f*t why anyone suggests him is unbelievable


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[ThomasR]

Would we part with Collard to get this across the line?

Just a guess but I would say Collard is valued far more internally than externally right now. No doubt WC will have been keeping tabs on him though. Kako at pick 3 it is