USA 2024 US Presidential Election: Trump vs Harris (pt II)

[HirdsTheWord]

Biden was overwhelming favourite to win in 2020. He was favourite in the betting markets, clearly favourite in the popular vote, clearly favourite in the combined swing states, had a 90% chance according to 538 and was favourite across the RealClearPolitics voting averages.

What you're referring to is voting trends that were upended for two reasons: Covid and Trump telling his supporters that early voting, drop boxes and mail in ballots were bad. So even though the non-partisan political experts kept telling us how the votes would play out in a couple of the important swing states (early Trump advantage then Dems would likely take the lead when early voting was counted), on the night it did look very good for Trump and ominous for Biden.

A fool and their money...

ahh fair enough.

cheers

 

[Cyber_punk]

I really don't know who to tip. My gut feeling a few days ago felt like Trump would win but then his meltdown about Pennsylvania has given me pause.

 

[Spearman]

I'm in the states at the moment (thankfully leaving before election day) and Trumps adds are well - they make Pauline look like a lefty. Trouble is the messages will resonate with people struggling and he probably is correct in thinking (not that I am sure he knows how to think) that the millions he offends wouldn't vote for him.anyway

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I can understand. I watch NFL and NCAA games and the ad are disgustingly low in actual value and morality.

 

[100action]

Of course they are. They spent so much time flooding the aggregators with biased sub-quality polls to try to bend the universe towards the reality they want. It didn’t work and the EV numbers are showing it. Trump is clearly getting increasingly desperate. His campaign has somehow managed to make every possible misstep in this last week as well. You love to see it.

how adorable are democrat supporters? dont you just want to hug them in their naivety?

Of course Democrats will have the early mail ballot lead. Republican kings rock up on the day of the election. The last election in Pennsylvania Democrats had something like a 42% lead in early ballots, by the time voting was done, the lead was only ~80k.

Dems currently have a 24% lead in mail ballot party registrations...

This doesn't suggest Trump is guaranteed to romp it in (because this time around, he is actively encouraging supporters to go mail ballot though the majority will still be paranoid about mail voting), however, the race will be neck and neck at the absolute minimum.

 

[Aussie in exile]

The guy's a douche but popular with Gen Z and he backed up his message with economic stats and facts

Is he still going to fight Mike Tyson?

 

[Randomizor]

how adorable are democrat supporters? dont you just want to hug them in their naivety?

Of course Democrats will have the early mail ballot lead. Republican kings rock up on the day of the election. The last election in Pennsylvania Democrats had something like a 42% lead in early ballots, by the time voting was done, the lead was only ~80k.

Dems currently have a 24% lead in mail ballot party registrations...

This doesn't suggest Trump is guaranteed to romp it in (because this time around, he is actively encouraging supporters to go mail ballot though the majority will still be paranoid about mail voting), however, the race will be neck and neck at the absolute minimum.

Nah. It’s the inverse 2016. Trump got complacent and is in for a big surprise. You heard it here first. You can quote me later too.

 

[Spearman]

Yes he did, think you have it mixed around. Biden was firm favourite and just won by 43k in 3 swing states razor thing margins in context of an American election.

If Trump wins it by squeaking through the battleground states, those voters are ones I would blame. They must of by now been even superficially acquainted with facts and information, yet they still voted for the PoS. Any calamities coming down the pike are on them.

 

[Spearman]

Happening all over the US

All over the world, the Catholic Church particularly heroically fights back for the people against corrupt, violent governments. Yet in the US we get this. What a disgrace to be so venal.

 

[Spearman]

He’s actually insane. Not just cosplaying anymore.

No, I think it shows what they think their base actually is...ignorant medieval peasants.

 

[Spearman]

My gut feel is that if Trump loses the more traditional Republicans will wrest back power from the MAGA crew and try to purge them.

I think there will be a lot of bloodletting and the GOP will be weakened for years but there are a lot of decent conservatives out there who find what has happened to their party under Trump/MAGA abhorrent and will want to take control back.

If Trump wins then the old GOP is dead and buried - MAGA will have won.

If they can find the testicular fortitude to withstand the violent rhetoric and maybe some actual incidents coming from the MAGA thugs. That's why they haven't spoken up so far. They are not brave leaders, they are opportunists looking for a way to sneak back into GOP control.

 

[Blue1980]

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I was going to say Hirdy is bill maher, but that’s even harsh on bill maher.

 

[Blue1980]

I find it so amusing that Trump lovers used to go on an on about “pedo Biden” and demand the Epstein files be released
but now that some of the files have actually shown Trump multiple times on Epstein flight logs, diaries and recordings ( not Biden) and Trump saying he doesn’t want any more files released they think the idea of Pedo Trump is just fine
I mean could they be more disingenuous?

Maybe this is part of the reason why many on the right want the age of consent lowered.

Lower to the age of trumps youngest victim.

 

[Blue1980]

Think Trump wins main reason is he has outperformed polling in last two elections and in 2024 it very close in polling. Harris teaming up with the Cheney's is such a dumb move.

It just depends if the polls have over corrected and if the 2022 mid terms where they underestimated the Dems by 4 points on average are more relevant now.

Time will tell.

 

[OneGreatClub]

Not surprising, it is their future massively at stake.
Maybe it’s the Swiftie effect?

 

[OneGreatClub]

Maybe this is part of the reason why many on the right want the age of consent lowered.

Lower to the age of trumps youngest victim.

Ugh, but you could be on to something.
All those years of progress for women and children could be gone in the sweep of a tiny hand.

 

[Ohitsthatguy]

Polls have Trump slightly ahead at this stage unfortunately

And I mean reputable polls

 

[OneGreatClub]

Polls have Trump slightly ahead at this stage unfortunately

Poll are all over the place. Not long now.

 

[Ohitsthatguy]

Harris needs PA

Pennsylvania : President: general election : 2024 Polls

The latest political polls and polling averages from FiveThirtyEight.

projects.fivethirtyeight.com

 

[kirky]

God the bloke is getting more unhinged every day. Yeh, lets shoot those that disagree with him.

 

[OneGreatClub]

Oh god. Another cooker for Trump.

 

[KingNorth23]

Whales Windmills eggs sharks batteries Hannibal Lecter whales me me me drill baby drill fake news love me me me
Those are Trump’s policies.

Here’s a question Stokey, what core values do you have in common with Trump?
I have none.

Every response you have given is like you are at gunpoint jeez mate let loose because all of this waste of time you spend 24 hours on this thread will lead to a loss for Kamala and her AI fanbase

 

[OneGreatClub]

Every response you have given is like you are at gunpoint jeez mate let loose because all of this waste of time you spend 24 hours on this thread will lead to a loss for Kamala and her AI fanbase

What are your values that align with Trump?

 

[Jamolad]

They’re saying it has Laura Loomer claws all over it

Laying there asleep in bed with his wife and 4 dogs.

Wakes up next to his 4 dogs with claw marks that just cannot be explained.

****ing demons!

Nup, not buying it. If it was a demon, they'd have clubbed his resting concussion face with a charcuterie board.

 

[FireKrakouer]

Of course they are. They spent so much time flooding the aggregators with biased sub-quality polls to try to bend the universe towards the reality they want. It didn’t work and the EV numbers are showing it. Trump is clearly getting increasingly desperate. His campaign has somehow managed to make every possible misstep in this last week as well. You love to see it.

Whatever helps you cope m8!

 

[Blue1980]

Lowest of the low info voters

No voter id, I’m outraged.