USA 2024 US Presidential Election: Trump vs Harris (pt II)

[pjcrows]

I've never said I was neutral or objective, and I don't think pjcrows has either. I think it's pretty apparent we're both well to the left of Kamala (and therefore Trump also). That's more FireKrakouer, whose perspective is different again.

Correct.

 

[pjcrows]

You are wasting your time.

It's straight outta the ol' socialists playbook - one rule for thee and another rule for me.

The Trump train is gathering unstoppable momentum while his haters are running late and don't have a ticket.

Enjoy the ride to victory!

Appreciate the acknowledgement but Trump isn't a victory, mate! I lean more towards those socialists you admonish.

 

[LuvtheKangas]

You're wrong, but that's fine.

I'll take your word for that, but just a heads up that mine is a valid conclusion to be drawn from your posting.

 

[Maggie5]

I've seen you post that you're fine with legitimate criticisms about the Dems/Harris than you actually accept and agree with legitimate criticisms about the Dems/Harris.

Legitimate yes, being on a Late Night show and not outlining policies is hardly not legitimate.. Petty? Yes.

Kinda? We pretty much know what he is at this point, it's hard to come up with unique ways to describe his vileness (especially when I do see a new surprising low,

So let's give a vile person a pass, right? Just stay silent, okay.

only to find there's 50 other posters making that same post already).

50? Surely you jest.

I've never said I was neutral or objective, and I don't think pjcrows has either. I think it's pretty apparent we're both well to the left of Kamala (and therefore Trump also). That's more FireKrakouer, whose perspective is different again.

Not so sure about you not portraying a neutral or having objective position and really can't be bothered searching your posts.

Not sure why you are bringing in FireKrakouer, he has been consistent in his position since the threads on USA elections started. Everyone knows FK's position.

 

[LuvtheKangas]

That means nothing to a Latin single mother working three minimum wage jobs to keep food on the table? What change will there be for ordinary people, is the clear question.



I've become increasingly convinced that no change is possible until Trump is done, so no, I really want him to finally go away. 2016 might as well be the true end of history, because since then there's a demand for full throated support of vacuousness because the alternative is too dangerous. Until we can get over that some people mightn't be deferential to the Democratic leadership, including 98% of people posting here who don't even vote, then we're going to be stuck chastising those unenthusiastic about the direction of the world.



I've seen you post that you're fine with legitimate criticisms about the Dems/Harris than you actually accept and agree with legitimate criticisms about the Dems/Harris.



Kinda? We pretty much know what he is at this point, it's hard to come up with unique ways to describe his vileness (especially when I do see a new surprising low, only to find there's 50 other posters making that same post already).



I've never said I was neutral or objective, and I don't think pjcrows has either. I think it's pretty apparent we're both well to the left of Kamala (and therefore Trump also). That's more FireKrakouer, whose perspective is different again.

We've been over this a dozen or more times before. Yes, no doubt you're a lefter than left leftie. And it is clear that you are extremely disappointed with the Democrats for not being even close to left. It has resulted in you having a far greater disdain for Biden and Harris than you have for Trump (who, for consistency reasons, should be your number 1 dislike, but isn't).

Perhaps it is conscious, perhaps not, but a large proportion of your posts are pretty snipy of the Democrats. You don't miss many chances to stick the boots in.

For clarity, my own personal position is that if the current group of Democrats were up against almost anyone else, I would be very glad for them to be beaten at the upcoming election.

 

[DaTBird187]

That means nothing to a Latin single mother working three minimum wage jobs to keep food on the table? What change will there be for ordinary people, is the clear question.

I'd say a promise to not be part of the largest mass deportation in history would be a good one.

 

[Satan]

Legitimate yes, being on a Late Night show and not outlining policies is hardly not legitimate.. Petty? Yes.


So let's give a vile person a pass, right? Just stay silent, okay.



50? Surely you jest.



Not so sure about you not portraying a neutral or having objective position and really can't be bothered searching your posts.

Not sure why you are bringing in FireKrakouer, he has been consistent in his position since the threads on USA elections started. Everyone knows FK's position.

The centrist

 

[Maggie5]

The centrist

No further left of Harris, whatever that means.

I seriously have no idea who the 'left', 'far left' and 'right' or what their beliefs are based on.

Stupid labels.

 

[Maggie5]

I'd say a promise to not be part of the largest mass deportation in history would be a good one.

I can't even visualise what that would entail.

Massive amount of Immigration squads raiding homes, workplaces packing them onto buses, taking them to a camp or tent city then an entire fleet of airplanes to take them away?

Cost?

 

[Satan]

I can't even visualise what that would entail.

Massive amount of Immigration squads raiding homes, workplaces packing them onto buses, taking them to a camp or tent city then an entire fleet of airplanes to take them away?

Cost?

Where to Nambia and Thighland

 

[DaTBird187]

I can't even visualise what that would entail.

Massive amount of Immigration squads raiding homes, workplaces packing them onto buses, taking them to a camp or tent city then an entire fleet of airplanes to take them away?

Cost?

Most likely an Ark.

"It'll be a huge Ark. Perhaps the greatest Ark of all time. Noah built an Ark, but it's not as big as my Ark."

 

[FireKrakouer]

As an objective centrist, we simply have to go against the lobbyist-infected establishment here... Dems are kinder with their rhetoric, harsher with their actions. The Cheney, McCain, Bush, Clinton etc dynasties of the uniparty all being against someone = valid reason to support that someone. Trump ain't the perfect response to the problem, Sanders would've been better, yet it was surprisingly the GOP who allowed a democratic selection of their candidate whilst the Dems keep rigging theirs against anyone who isn't a Wallstreet / MIC lapdog.

As RFK said... let's ignore the mean tweets m8, let's make America healthy again!

 

[LuvtheKangas]

Most likely an Ark.

"It'll be a huge Ark. Perhaps the greatest Ark of all time. Noah built an Ark, but it's not as big as my Ark."

"Nobody knows as much about Arks as I do."

 

[campbell]

Imagine Donnie having the balls to front up and do this, and make sense.
She is very good.

 

[Ghost Patrol]

Imagine Donnie having the balls to front up and do this, and make sense.
She is very good.

She should have done the Trump dance on the way in.

 

[LuvtheKangas]

She should have done the Trump dance on the way in.

Oh yes, that would have been perfect.

 

[Satan]

As an objective centrist, we simply have to go against the lobbyist-infected establishment here... Dems are kinder with their rhetoric, harsher with their actions. The Cheney, McCain, Bush, Clinton etc dynasties of the uniparty all being against someone = valid reason to support that someone. Trump ain't the perfect response to the problem, Sanders would've been better, yet it was surprisingly the GOP who allowed a democratic selection of their candidate whilst the Dems keep rigging theirs against anyone who isn't a Wallstreet / MIC lapdog.

As RFK said... let's ignore the mean tweets m8, let's make America healthy again!

X was not around in the 60s m8

 

[Satan]

Most likely an Ark.

"It'll be a huge Ark. Perhaps the greatest Ark of all time. Noah built an Ark, but it's not as big as my Ark."

Afl has a better Ark

 

[Mick F]

In relation to what he says, does, is and will be.....absolutely.

How the media don't brutally pick apart every idiotic thing he says at rallies, writes on X, does in the media, boggles the mind. They all just sit there and go "Oh that's just Trump", like he gets a free pass for being an arseh*le.

In any civilised country outside of the U.S, someone like Trump would never have gotten within a thousand miles of running a country, yet here we are at a 50-50 split.

Yes, party members are supposed to weed out the village idiots early in the pre-selection process. Whilst the best people have successful careers and families they love you are still supposed to recruit and nominate a decent person as the representative of the people in Congress.

 

[happy_eagle]

I was very critical of the dems when it looked like they were stubbornly going to run Biden, and rightfully critical.

But I think they have run the Harris campaign pretty well so far all things considered. The convention was a success, she did well in the debates and she is not ignoring certain areas like Hillary did in 2016.

Do not subscribe to the hard left theory that a Trump win will be the same as a Harris win.

 

[Satan]

 

[Bloods86]

I can't even visualise what that would entail.

Massive amount of Immigration squads raiding homes, workplaces packing them onto buses, taking them to a camp or tent city then an entire fleet of airplanes to take them away?

Cost?

Not to mention the MAGA vigilantes joining in, reporting, harrassing or detaining anyone they suspect is an illegal. True patriots.

 

[Satan]

Not to mention the MAGA vigilantes joining in, reporting, harrassing or detaining anyone they suspect is an illegal. True patriots.

History possibly repeating it self 90 years later?

 

[CD Xbow]

The cult is only 30 percent of voters.

Yes, around a third, same percentage as the Germans who voted for Hitler before WWII. Perhaps a third of people are susceptible to cults/authority figures/ultranationalism.

 

[Celebrity 101]

It’s sad to see fellow humans turn on others for holding certain political views. I’m not about us vs them. Unfortunately many don’t care and ostracise others for holding certain views, we saw that especially the last few years.

Those who support Trump and want to see Dems tears flooding the streets, god bless you all. They deserve to lose not only because they want to destroy the earth and put us into WW3 but for what they say about us fellow human beings.

It’s sad to see how they attack and attempt to minimise you as a person for being who you are. In fact the left do that here in Aus. You tell them you hold conservative views and it triggers a flight or fight response that urges them to belittle you and call you names.

They can call us racist, despite them not being able to define it. They can call us unintelligent and stupid, despite us having uni degrees, trade certs or working good jobs. They can call us right wing fascists, oh they love that slur but again their so called intelligence renders then unable to define what a fascist is: check the mirror maybe.

No matter what you try and taint us with, it’s all bs. You will not break the resistance. You will not silence the majority. Change is coming and those scared of change because they consume fake news best beware you have waking up to do, and quickly