Best 23 in 2025

[cfc19902010]

I loved Henry but I also think he’s a bit overrated. He’s had the luxury of playing behind Hawkins and Cameron and in a consistently strong team. He still got dropped a few times iirc.

It would be fairly hard to trade the Pick 17 that we used on him and get less value imo. He’s not that incredible.

Henry is a very good player and will get better ..he nearly won the game against Brisbane in the prelim on his own

 

[Dtennent94]

Henry is a very good player and will get better ..he nearly won the game against Brisbane in the prelim on his own

How much better is he than guys like Liam Ryan, Finlayson, Jack Martin? Cream on the cake kind of players imo.

His ceiling is probably Jamie Elliott/Fritsch? I’d argue for the risk of drafting a guy, Ollie Henry isn’t convincing me not to trade that pick.

 

[Jen2310]

How much better is he than guys like Liam Ryan, Finlayson, Jack Martin? Cream on the cake kind of players imo.

His ceiling is probably Jamie Elliott/Fritsch? I’d argue for the risk of drafting a guy, Ollie Henry isn’t convincing me not to trade that pick.

Martin? Finalyson? Geez.

If his ceiling is almost 200 gamer in Jamie Elliott and fritsch, I know who I'd take.

 

[magpies42]

Going by your videos Jen, i think Reef will be a big contender for Murphys position, he looks comfortable back there. Would like to see Lippa take Steeles place and see our forward line with Membrey, Mihocek and McStay (just to see how it would function). Also a fully fit Mitchell is in the best 23. But who do you take out?!?!?

Agree with all of the above and would select Mitchell ahead of Lipinski. Come round 1 though it will be Houston that misses.

The next 6 or so will define our season though. Who can come in play a role, fill a void or change our form??

Mitchell is clearly one of those, Cox plays a role very well, Membrey is a bone fide best 22 player, I think Markov will be reenergised with his delisting, Ed Allan showed some VFL form late and I like Parker. Sullivan is dependable, but I’d have him behind some of the other options , even if it’s just for the sake of developing Harry and hopefully finally Fin!

Will be a fascinating year, luck will play a part!

 

[76woodenspooners]

Suspect our best 22 at the start of the year will look a bit different to the end of the year - I hope so anyway, as that’s what will need to happen for us to enjoy sustained success.

 

[Dtennent94]

Martin? Finalyson? Geez.

If his ceiling is almost 200 gamer in Jamie Elliott and fritsch, I know who I'd take.

That’s my point. He’s likely to be about as good as a Ryan/Finlayson/Martin, but if Geelong are lucky they’ll get Elliott/Fritsch.

If he’s the best early draftee we’ve taken in recent years that wasn’t tied to us, then I’m definitely risking losing a Henry to take all of the players you could trade in instead.

 

[sr36]

I loved Henry but I also think he’s a bit overrated. He’s had the luxury of playing behind Hawkins and Cameron and in a consistently strong team. He still got dropped a few times iirc.

It would be fairly hard to trade the Pick 17 that we used on him and get less value imo. He’s not that incredible.

He'll continue to improve and play 200+ games. He was an outstanding pick 17 - particularly in that draft which is looking mightily threadbare at the moment.

 

[brockbruiser]

Agree with all of the above and would select Mitchell ahead of Lipinski. Come round 1 though it will be Houston that misses.

What Lipinski brings is criminally underrated. Provides valuable link up play and is comfortably one of best inside 50 kicks.

Can play inside mid/outside and goes forward. Mitchell unfortunately is an inside mid only and while he's very good at it, he needs to be part of a midfield that provides paces and burst out of the packs speed in other areas.

 

[sr36]

Suspect our best 22 at the start of the year will look a bit different to the end of the year - I hope so anyway, as that’s what will need to happen for us to enjoy sustained success.

Didn't really change in 2023. Change next year would be ideal for the future, but not a necessity for next year

 

[Dtennent94]

He'll continue to improve and play 200+ games. He was an outstanding pick 17 - particularly in that draft which is looking mightily threadbare at the moment.

Is he good enough to justify taking all the not so good early picks instead of making a habit of just trading them, though?

 

[RobJD]

What Lipinski brings is criminally underrated. Provides valuable link up play and is comfortably one of best inside 50 kicks.

Can play inside mid/outside and goes forward. Mitchell unfortunately is an inside mid only and while he's very good at it, he needs to be part of a midfield that provides paces and burst out of the packs speed in other areas.

Think you left the key bit out regarding the mid-field - he needs to be part of a midfield that gets the ball, provides paces and burst out of the packs speed.

Other than Nick, we don't have anyone in the mid-field as good at: 1. stopping our opponents getting the ball, 2. getting the ball, and 3. getting the ball to someone who provides pace and burst

 

[sr36]

Is he good enough to justify taking all the not so good early picks instead of making a habit of just trading them, though?

It's contextual. It depends on list and salary cap and the draft rules. Some clubs should be hitting the draft, others should be trading in players. In 2020 for example, we had to hit the draft.

 

[Mick F]

Is he good enough to justify taking all the not so good early picks instead of making a habit of just trading them, though?

We have got your point - over and over. We take the view that you also need to draft elite talent to be a chance to win finals deep in September. Grand Finalists require both.

Not every recruit has proven to be a Clement, Crisp, Howe and Cameron.

 

[Dtennent94]

We have got your point - over and over. We take the view that you also need to draft elite talent to be a chance to win finals deep in September. Grand Finalists require both.

Not every recruit has proven to be a Clement, Crisp, Howe and Cameron.

The only flop that I can think of that we overpaid for was Beams (which was fairly disastrous, I’ll admit).

 

[cfc19902010]

How much better is he than guys like Liam Ryan, Finlayson, Jack Martin? Cream on the cake kind of players imo.

His ceiling is probably Jamie Elliott/Fritsch? I’d argue for the risk of drafting a guy, Ollie Henry isn’t convincing me not to trade that pick.

Hes not at Elliott level or fritsch level .. yet
He’s much better than the other 3 you mentioned
The whole saga with Geelong pisses me off the way they stole him

 

[magpies42]

What Lipinski brings is criminally underrated. Provides valuable link up play and is comfortably one of best inside 50 kicks.

Can play inside mid/outside and goes forward. Mitchell unfortunately is an inside mid only and while he's very good at it, he needs to be part of a midfield that provides paces and burst out of the packs speed in other areas.

Don’t disagree, first use of the ball is pretty important though and Mitchell is probably our best at that…and we have other wingers that we can count on. Sidey, Daicos, WHE…they also all kick very well.

 

[Jen2310]

Don’t disagree, first use of the ball is pretty important though and Mitchell is probably our best at that…and we have other wingers that we can count on. Sidey, Daicos, WHE…they also all kick very well.

fwiw, it seems Josh will spend more time in defence. WHE I think his wing days are behind him, he's purely a forward now going by where he is training. Lippa is training solely in the midfield. Most likely one of our wingers. Sidey may be used on the wing or as a tagger, time will see.

 

[Run n Spread]

I actually love our strategy of trading out high draft picks for proven players. See if we can’t reel in a Rowell, LDU, Naughton, etc in the next year or two.

If we can just consistently compete and be a top tier workplace, guys will keep knocking on our doors and hopefully play for a little less than they’d get elsewhere, too.

Keep taking the free hits in NGA, FS, UFA, Cat B and trade out our top picks for proven performers and strike gold with a few 2nd and 3rd rounders. Can’t imagine a strategy with a better strike rate.

The proven players have to fill a very specific need thou. Otherwise you risk butchering the list.
Rowell Naughton is Petracca Smith revisted pie in the sky stuff
Fill for need but back your young players in.
Jiath West Allen should all be playing opening round next year and given first opportunity at key roles that need filling

 

[jakson68]

fwiw, it seems Josh will spend more time in defence. WHE I think his wing days are behind him, he's purely a forward now going by where he is training. Lippa is training sorely in the midfield. Most likely one of our wingers. Sidey may be used on the wing or as a tagger, time will see.

Maybe give him a break to recover

 

[Jen2310]

Maybe give him a break to recover

haha corrected

 

[neilk]

From Foxfooty, Round 0 team:

COLLINGWOOD

B: B.Maynard, D.Moore, I.Quaynor

HB: H.Perryman, J.Howe, J.Daicos

C: S.Sidebottom, J.De Goey, J.Crisp

HF: L.Schultz, B.Mihocek, J.Elliott

F: B.Hill, D.McStay, B.McCreery

FOLL: D.Cameron, N.Daicos, S.Pendlebury

I/C: P.Lipinski, M.Cox, T.Mitchell, T.Membrey, W.Hoskin-Elliott

EMG: B.Frampton, E.Allan, F.Macrae

 

[stormskye]

From Foxfooty, Round 0 team:

COLLINGWOOD

B: B.Maynard, D.Moore, I.Quaynor

HB: H.Perryman, J.Howe, J.Daicos

C: S.Sidebottom, J.De Goey, J.Crisp

HF: L.Schultz, B.Mihocek, J.Elliott

F: B.Hill, D.McStay, B.McCreery

FOLL: D.Cameron, N.Daicos, S.Pendlebury

I/C: P.Lipinski, M.Cox, T.Mitchell, T.Membrey, W.Hoskin-Elliott

EMG: B.Frampton, E.Allan, F.Macrae

Pretty important person missing from that line up

 

[RobJD]

Pretty important person missing from that line up

Houston is still under suspension until R1

 

[ZEV]

Pretty important person missing from that line up

Foxfooty, we have a problem.

 

[Jen2310]

Pretty important person missing from that line up

If you're talking about Houston, he is suspended for opening round.