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[Tjblues]

Don't know much about Clarke but it's a position of need.

His stats look OK.

His vfl stats are mediocre.

Far too small a sample size but he played 1 half of AFL footy, in which he had 6 touches, 5 clangers, and of the 807 players who saw AFL action in 2024, he has the lowest rating.

1st round pick only 2 years ago so he could still be okay, but he’d be a train on auditionee for an SSP spot at best

 

[gbatman]

His vfl stats are mediocre.

Far too small a sample size but he played 1 half of AFL footy, in which he had 6 touches, 5 clangers, and of the 807 players who saw AFL action in 2024, he has the lowest rating.

1st round pick only 2 years ago so he could still be okay, but he’d be a train on auditionee for an SSP spot at best

It's hard to tell. Mediocre AFL stats but stats are on the improve over his VFL career. Only two seasons in. You just need to be able to see him play. VFL is not always the competition where small forwards excel. There have been a few over the years who have been stuck in reserves and have just needed time and opportunity. Hard to tell which ones are those ones though.

 

[Bale Dup]

Perhaps so why say it after the fact.How do the pies feel that they were not his first preference.


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They won't care. Trust me. I know Collingwood supporters. Lived with one for 45 years and believe me, they are all alike when it comes to things that don't suit their agenda. They will simply brush off the fact he wanted to play for someone else before them. It will not enter their thoughts. And because it was us he wanted, as far as Collingwood fans are concerned, well, that is just completely untrue and didn't happen

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[gbatman]

He would be a handy one to be a train on player along with Charlie McCartin.

 

[swuzzlebubble]

He would be a handy one to be a train on player along with Charlie McCartin.

"Geelong & Melbourne the two clubs most heavily into him but there are others starting to look"

Classic Geelong Smokey.

 

[Tjblues]

It's hard to tell. Mediocre AFL stats but stats are on the improve over his VFL career. Only two seasons in. You just need to be able to see him play. VFL is not always the competition where small forwards excel. There have been a few over the years who have been stuck in reserves and have just needed time and opportunity. Hard to tell which ones are those ones though.

Would be pure speculation on my part but given I don’t disagree with anything you’ve said there and the dogs spent a 1st rounder on him, is there a non-footy issue?

They invested heavily to get him and he sat behind arty jones, lachie McNeil, laitham vandemeer and Harvey gallagher.

Not like there wasn’t a spot for him next to Weightman if he was good enough

 

[BigFrizz36]

Jesse Hogan says hi

Pretty sure that Jesse was never delisted. Always traded for. Dockers paid overs, Giants paid unders.

 

[swuzzlebubble]

As @swuzzlebubble said earlier, Craven is unsigned as well.

 

[koutashoulda1_1]

Just not true.

This board makes up so much nonsense.

"The word on Kemp coming into the season was that he was destined for more midfield minutes after finding a home as a high-marking intercept defender in 2018, but he would end up having an impact just about everywhere...

Kemp’s disposal average of an even 20 across the NAB League and national carnival is quite impressive given the deep position he often took up either end of the ground, but if he is to play more permanently in the midfield, he can work on having bucket-loads of possessions more often."

He is not, and has never been, a natural mid.

So he 'Played mid in draft year' it seems? Not sure what youre getting at here.

Was quite aware he played predominantly defence, just suggesting that he have another go in the midfield due to his favourable attributes. Maybe you can spell out why you think thatd be a terrible idea

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[koutashoulda1_1]

I remember reading that Curnow had the most 1v1 in the league with Harry in the top 15.

Definitely the most 3 v 1s too! Cheers Owies

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[koutashoulda1_1]

Our forward-line functioning together rarely occurs, and has been like that for way too long. Fix it please with everyone working to a plan/space/isolation/crumbing positions, including skills (and vision) improving the delivery by the midfielders.

2025 small/med forwards incl ZW, EH are both crafty kicks. C. Durd’s can hit up a lead. Moir is highly skilled.

In D50 we spoil toward danger areas and blled from ground balls, in F50 it gets spoiled away from danger areas and blleed rebounds from groundballs.

Love the ideaof Williams Kemp and Moir running through the F50, but we need some more tackling pressure too. Dont think we can have those 3 and Motlop unless 3 of the 4 are playing accountably.

Hopefully Fogarty fully recovers and our pick 3 can also go forward and lay a tackle and be dangerous.

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[AndyLucimitis]

I’m not upset about pick 38 for Chugga, I would have been livid if we traded 32 for Kemp though.

I’m pumped we won’t be trying to put a square peg in a round hole trying to fit in Kennedy and allow us to have more pace in the team


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I did have to laugh at a Bulldogs supporter's reaction to recruiting Kennedy :

"Great - we've just got even slower !'

 

[swuzzlebubble]

J Carroll apparently removed the club handle from his Instagram bio, or however that works

 

[BlueJet]

Don't think he would have got stuck there. Player's/their partners usually get to where they want these days. Think it was more that he didn't want to put Port in that position. Would have cost them more.

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Players nominate when they know the deal can get done.
In this instance there appeared an unwillingness from Carlton to meet Ports demands for him.

Fans complain most years about players nominating as it limits the original clubs ability to negotiate a better return & makes the desire to return home disingenuous, yet now, when a player allows it to play out appropriately, he's an idiot? Nah..

 

[Beyond Blue]

Just not true.

This board makes up so much nonsense.

"The word on Kemp coming into the season was that he was destined for more midfield minutes after finding a home as a high-marking intercept defender in 2018, but he would end up having an impact just about everywhere...

Kemp’s disposal average of an even 20 across the NAB League and national carnival is quite impressive given the deep position he often took up either end of the ground, but if he is to play more permanently in the midfield, he can work on having bucket-loads of possessions more often."

He is not, and has never been, a natural mid.

Couldn’t agree more. When the Saints came knocking at the end of the trade period for Kemp the responses on here about what his value was (first round draft pick) were not matched with reality. From what I have seen of him he doesn’t have any midfield qualities…endurance, ball winning ability, burst from stoppage.

The reality is he is a failed backman who I think should be given a chance up forward next year….but just because he played well against West Coast doesn’t mean it’s a sure thing he succeeds in that role. It’s a “make or break” year for him in 2025.

If I was a betting man I’d say it’s more likely he is just an average AFL footballer (still a good result for him) rather than a star of the game.

 

[Accidental genius]

Couldn’t agree more. When the Saints came knocking at the end of the trade period for Kemp the responses on here about what his value was (first round draft pick) were not matched with reality. From what I have seen of him he doesn’t have any midfield qualities…endurance, ball winning ability, burst from stoppage.

The reality is he is a failed backman who I think should be given a chance up forward next year….but just because he played well against West Coast doesn’t mean it’s a sure thing he succeeds in that role. It’s a “make or break” year for him in 2025.

If I was a betting man I’d say it’s more likely he is just an average AFL footballer (still a good result for him) rather than a star of the game.

Don’t forget he has a very good leap so he could make his career as a third tall…

As a starting point he has a very good leap..

Couple of things he should work..

• Time his leaps a bit better
• Grab the ball more often

He could work on burst speed as well to give him a bit more of an edge when running on leads.

 

[Blue Heart]

Sorry in advance if Liam McMahon has been mentioned as a possible 2025 player but I read on SEN that McMahon plays for our Carlton VFL team and was originally a 2nd round No. 31 pick in 2020 for the Pies. I have heard good things about him as he kicked 45 goals form 16 games and I think the Blues are going to rookie him year. Does he have the goods to make a difference for for us in 2025 ? Thanks in advance.

 

[Jimmae]

Just not true.

This board makes up so much nonsense.

Also from your unattributed source that you've tried to quote our of context:

Scouting notes: NAB League Boys - Round 1

IN the opening round of the NAB League Boys competition, we took a look at all six games with our writers giving their opinion on how some of the players raised by respective Talent Managers as ones to watch, performed in the first round. All notes are the opinion of the individual writer...

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#8 Brodie Kemp

In combination with Dow, Kemp was terrific at stoppages and broke the lines well to damage the Falcons going forward. Kemp’s steps through traffic and ability to dispose effectively with opponents near made him crucial to Bendigo’s form, with the second term his clear best. His contested marking was also handy, looking strong under duress and pulling in two for the day. There’s not much to say that won’t be said throughout the year, hopefully Kemp continues to show his silk on the ball.

Scouting notes: NAB League Boys - Round 2

THERE were plenty of massive individual performances in an historic weekend of NAB League football, and we had reporters at all nine games to take in the action. Key players and talent touted by each club’s talent manager are included, with scouting notes the opinion of each individual writer...

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#8 Brodie Kemp
Kemp finished with 17 disposals and a goal playing predominantly in the forward half. Although his influence on the game could have been greater, his clearance work and ball use was still very good, and he kicked the Pioneers’ winning goal, standing up at a crunch time.

Scouting notes: NAB League Boys - Round 3

ANOTHER blockbuster weekend of NAB League footy saw the best of the best stake their claims as the next big things, with one particular game showcasing some enormous talent to come. With scouts eyeing all nine games across the round, these are our individual, opinion-based thoughts on the...

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#8 Brodie Kemp

Impressive across the four quarters, he kicked the Pioneers’ opening goal of the game with a ripping shot to bend the ball back through the big sticks in the right forward pocket. He took a great mark at half-forward then kicked low in favour of Caleb Fisher in the pocket. With time and space he can be real damaging, and it is just tightening up the kicking when under pressure at speed. Kept winning it and has a knack of spinning out of trouble. Good hands in traffic too.

As you can see, he split time between midfield and forward in what little NAB League he played in 2019, averaging just shy of 5 clearances a game.

Scouting notes: Under 18 Australian side

IN what has become an annual tradition, Australia’s top Under 18s combined to form a side to face a Victorian Football League (VFL) team in a one-off practice match. After defeating North Melbourne last year, the AFL Academy made it two wins on the trot with a victory over last year’s grand...

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21 Brodie Kemp

Kemp was a hard worker through the midfield for the academy side, he played the role as the tall big bodied midfielder and played it well with clean hands at the stoppages and staying string in the contest. Kemp’s best bit of play came in the last quarter where he burst out of a stoppage with his run and kicked a bullet pass inside 50 which was dropped by his teammate. Kemp finished the game with 12 disposals and four clearances.

At the Champs, his first two games were in defence due to coaching fears around their defensive stocks, but he dominated the games, stringing up intercepts and bolting out of defence with the ball.

Here's game 3:

Scouting notes: AFL U18 Championships – Vic Country vs. South Australia

VIC Country kept its perfect 2019 National Championships record in tact with a heart-stopping one-point win over South Australia at on Sunday. We were on hand at GMHBA Stadium to note the standouts from either side – and there were plenty – with the opinion-based notes that of each individual...

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#16 Brodie Kemp

Was the hero of the day, slotting an ice-cool set shot with the last kick of the game to give Country a miraculous win. While Kemp’s strong overhead mark and clinical conversion was the talking point at the final siren, he had already proved his worth earlier in the day. The big-bodied Bendigo product finally enjoyed an extended run through the midfield and was even used forward on the back of his strong overhead capabilities, amassing 27 disposals, seven marks, five clearances, and four inside 50s. Kemp’s cleanliness in snapping up the ball and using it by foot made him so effective early on as he accumulated strongly, working well at stoppages and linking into the forward arc in general play. He just seemed to get into the right spots and made the most of each touch, exemplified best with his game-winning play. Will be moving up draft boards on the back of his versatility and one-touch ability, and will look to finish off the carnival strongly on Wednesday.

27 disposals, 5 clearances, and a game winning goal.

Scouting notes: AFL U18 Championships - Vic Country vs. Western Australia

WESTERN Australia took out the AFL Under-18 National Championships title with a narrow victory over Vic Country thanks to a goal after the siren. We were on hand to note down some of the prominent players, with all notes opinion-based of the individual writer. Vic Country: By: Peter Williams #2...

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#16 Brodie Kemp
Another standout game for Country and continues his ascent up draft boards with some crucial marks inside 50. He booted two goals from four scoring shots, and always threatened to be a danger in the air. One of the few consistent Country performers across the game, Kemp spent a lot of time on the inside and then went forward, winning 11 contested possessions and taking two contested marks. His strength in the air or at ground level was clear, and he was able to pump the ball inside 50 on numerous occasions. While he still made some mistakes by foot, Kemp was another player who took risks and was willing to put it on the line to try and win the championships for Country. A deserving All Australian member.

So arguably the top key position prospect coming into the year went to work on his endurance base and forced his way into the midfield, then did it again at the highest level.

In summary: you have this wrong, though that should have been obvious given what you quoted.

 

[teagueyubeauty]

Don’t know why we didn’t pick him up middle of last season when we had a chance to, so yes he’s a chance


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[Arr0w]

Strange that people are still holding that candle for Kemp being a midfielder

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

Strange that people are still holding that candle for Kemp being a midfielder

I don't think it's fair to say it's 'strange'... unlikely as it may be there's nothing wrong people wanting the coaches to try a few new things. I think he'll struggle to get consistent games next year unless he bulks up considerably to play a KPP role so why not let him train with the midfield and see how he goes before committing to that transformation? Soapy has also mentioned that he had a few runs on ball in pre season 2024 and dominated so it might not be that far fetched.

I'd like to see Cow tried on ball and Elijah half back, it may not be likely, but I don't think it's 'strange' to say a player may thrive in a role we haven't yet seen much of from them.

 

[BlueJet]

Definitely the most 3 v 1s too! Cheers Owies

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More accurately, cheers teammates for taking the dumb option.
Owies: leads, gets overlooked for a stationary Curnow.
Blues fan: **** you Owies.

Footy is fun.

 

[The Bighouse]

I don't think it's fair to say it's 'strange'... unlikely as it may be there's nothing wrong people wanting the coaches to try a few new things. I think he'll struggle to get consistent games next year unless he bulks up considerably to play a KPP role so why not let him train with the midfield and see how he goes before committing to that transformation? Soapy has also mentioned that he had a few runs on ball in pre season 2024 and dominated so it might not be that far fetched.


I'd like to see Cow tried on ball and Elijah half back, it may not be likely, but I don't think it's 'strange' to say a player may thrive in a role we haven't yet seen much of from them.

“unless he bulks up considerably to play a KPP role“
Think we need to Andy Dufresne from putting BK as a KPP = not for him, flanker type. Some game smarts required too.

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

“unless he bulks up considerably to play a KPP role“
Think we need to Andy Dufresne from putting BK as a KPP = not for him, flanker type. Some game smarts required too.

I'd rather see him used elsewhere on the ground firstly to see how he goes, but if the club is set on him playing down back imo he needs to increase his size and strength considerably. His leap and judgement is fairly good, but he gets rag dolled by everybody. Similar to early days Josh Battle tbh

 

[Arr0w]

I don't think it's fair to say it's 'strange'... unlikely as it may be there's nothing wrong people wanting the coaches to try a few new things. I think he'll struggle to get consistent games next year unless he bulks up considerably to play a KPP role so why not let him train with the midfield and see how he goes before committing to that transformation? Soapy has also mentioned that he had a few runs on ball in pre season 2024 and dominated so it might not be that far fetched.

I'd like to see Cow tried on ball and Elijah half back, it may not be likely, but I don't think it's 'strange' to say a player may thrive in a role we haven't yet seen much of from them.

As recently rumoured, Kemp is being left forward this year, which I think is great, I believe this is his best chance of making it as a player

I attended a number of preseason training sessions (closed and open to the general public) last year, and not ONCE was Kemp training with the midfield

People are entitled to think Kemp can play as a mid, as to others stating the opposite