21st century Mock Draft

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So this is my thinking. I am thinking this could be an all encompassing 21st century mock draft. This is we line up every player drafted in the 21st century as an 18 year old, knowing the players they became and we decide who goes where.

For the draft order I am thinking the current ladder

So

Pick 1 - North Melbourne
Pick 2 - Richmond
Pick 3 - West Coast
Pick 4 - Adelaide
Pick 5 - St Kilda
Pick 6 - Brisbane
Pick 7 - Hawthorn
Pick 8 - Western Bulldogs
Pick 9 - Melbourne
Pick 10 - Gold Coast
Pick 11 - GWS
Pick 12 - Fremantle
Pick 13 - Collingwood
Pick 14 - Geelong
Pick 15 - Port Adelaide
Pick 16 - Essendon
Pick 17 - Carlton
Pick 18 - Sydney

and so on for 3 rounds.

The rules are to treat this like an actual mock draft, so pick the player who is either best available or best suits your list.

So my general idea is people will nominate a club they want to pick for, and hopefully we get enough people who want to participate so we don't have any double ups. I hope to go for 3 rounds but we will see how it goes.

Now the rule here is that you are only able to pick players who were drafted in the 2000 draft or later, I know technically 2000 is not the 21st century but these players would have only started playing in 2001 which is the 21st century. I have also made some lists of players who have won the All Australian at least 3 times, but also included some other awards too, but by no means do you only need to select from the list.

You are also free to nominate someone who has been retired for 5 years, or if you feel really confident, happy to include a player who is only in their second year, if you believe they have enough talent to be ahead of more established players. For instance it would not surprise me if Nick Daicos or Harley Reid end up in the first or second rounds despite having very little experience compared to a lot of players on this list.

So here we go

Key Forwards
8 – Lance Franklin | 2008, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2014, 2016, 2017, 2018
5 - Tom Hawkins | 2012, 2019, 2020, 2021, 2022
5 - Nick Riewoldt | 2004, 2006, 2008, 2009, 2014
3 - Jeremy Cameron | 2013, 2019, 2022
3 - Josh Kennedy | 2015, 2016, 2017
3 - Jack Riewoldt | 2010, 2015, 2018

Key Defenders
5 - Alex Rance | 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018
4 - Jeremy McGovern | 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019

Ruckmen
6 - Dean Cox | 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2011, 2012
6 - Max Gawn | 2016, 2018, 2019, 2020, 2021, 2022
4 - Aaron Sandilands | 2008, 2009, 2010, 2014
3 - Nick Naitanui | 2012, 2020, 2021

Midfielder
8 – Gary Ablett Jr. | 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014
8 – Patrick Dangerfield | 2012, 2013, 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019, 2020
6 - Chris Judd | 2004, 2006, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011
6 - Joel Selwood | 2009, 2010, 2013, 2014, 2016, 2017
6 - Scott Pendlebury | 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2019
5 - Dane Swan | 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013
5 - Marcus Bontempelli | 2016, 2019, 2020, 2021, 2023
4 - Dustin Martin | 2016, 2017, 2018, 2020
4 - Christian Petracca | 2020, 2021, 2022, 2023
3 - Clayton Oliver | 2018, 2021, 2022
3 - Patrick Cripps | 2018, 2019, 2022
3 - Travis Boak | 2013, 2014, 2020
3 - Josh Kennedy | 2012, 2014, 2016
3 - Sam Mitchell | 2011, 2013, 2015

Other Defenders
5 - Tom Stewart | 2018, 2019, 2021, 2022, 2023
3 - Luke Hodge | 2005, 2008, 2010

Other Forwards
4 - Cyril Rioli | 2008, 2013, 2014, 2015
3 - Eddie Betts | 2015, 2016, 2017
3 - Tom Greene | 2016, 2021, 2023
3 - Robby Grey | 2014, 2015, 2017, 2018

Coleman Medal
4 - Lance Franklin | 2008, 2011, 2014, 2017
3 - Jack Riewoldt | 2010, 2012, 2018
2 - Josh Kennedy | 2015, 2016
2 - Charlie Curnow | 2022, 2023
1 - Tom Hawkins | 2021
1 - Jeremy Carmeron | 2019
1 - Jarryd Roughead | 2013

Norm Smith Medal
3 - Dustin Martin | 2017, 2019, 2020
2 - Luke Hodge | 2008, 2014

Brownlow Medal
2 - Gary Ablett Jnr | 2009, 2013
2 - Nate Fyfe | 2015, 2019
2 - Lachie Neale | 2020, 2023
2 - Chris Judd | 2004, 2010

If I have missed anyone who has 3 All Australians or more feel very free to tell me.

For anyone who wants to refresh their memories



North Melbourne Sphynx
Richmond reggie
West Coast ArdentEagle
Adelaide eth-dog
St Kilda Mr Meow
Brisbane eth-dog
Hawthorn Guardian Hawk
Western Bulldogs PhoenixBonez
Melbourne MarcMaverick
Gold Coast WilloTree
GWS boncer34
Fremantle Purple7x08_24
Collingwood Fadge
Geelong Lingsface
Port Adelaide whatwhatsaywhat
Essendon RedmanWasHere
Carlton MC Bad Genius
Sydney theasian

If anyone wants to be assigned a specific team please say so. Lets see if this works :p

and so far

Pick 1 - North Melbourne - Lance Franklin
Pick 2 - Richmond - Gary Ablett Jnr
Pick 3 - West Coast - Max Gawn
Pick 4 - Adelaide - Chris Judd
Pick 5 - St Kilda - Patrick Dangerfield
Pick 6 - Brisbane - Dean Cox
Pick 7 - Hawthorn - Nick Riewoldt
Pick 8 - Western Bulldogs - Marcus Bontempelli
Pick 9 - Melbourne - Dustin Martin
Pick 10 - Gold Coast - Josh Kennedy (KPF)
Pick 11 - GWS - Alex Rance
Pick 12 - Fremantle - Charlie Curnow
Pick 13 - Collingwood - Joel Selwood
Pick 14 - Geelong - Nate Fyfe
Pick 15 - Port Adelaide - Tom Stewart
Pick 16 - Essendon - Mark Coughlan
Pick 17 - Carlton - Aaron Sandilands
Pick 18 - Sydney - Brian Lake

Round 2
Pick 19 - North Melbourne - Scott Pendlebury
Pick 20 - Richmond - Jeremy Cameron
Pick 21 - West Coast - Luke Hodge
Pick 22 - Adelaide - Brodie Grundy
Pick 23 - St Kilda - Dane Swan
Pick 24 - Brisbane - Harry Taylor
Pick 25 - Hawthorn - Christian Petracca
Pick 26 - Western Bulldogs - Jeremy McGovern
Pick 27 - Melbourne - Jack Riewoldt
Pick 28 - Gold Coast - Shannon Hurn
Pick 29 - GWS - Jaryd Roughead
Pick 30 - Fremantle - Brendon Goddard
Pick 31 - Collingwood - Tom Hawkins
Pick 32 - Geelong- Zach Merrett
Pick 33 - Port Adelaide - Tom Lynch
Pick 34 - Essendon - Ben McEvoy
Pick 35 - Carlton - Stephen Milne
Pick 36 - Sydney - Taylor Walker

Round 3
Pick 37 - North Melboune - Steve Johnson
Pick 38 - Richmond - Nic Naitanui
Pick 39 - West Coast - Cyril Rioli
Pick 40 - Adelaide - Michael Hurley
Pick 41 - St Kilda - Toby Greene
Pick 42 - Brisbane - Andrew Mackie
Pick 43 - Hawthorn - Harris Andrews
Pick 44 - Western Bulldogs - Eddie Betts
Pick 45 - Melbourne - Lachie Neale
Pick 46 - Gold Coast - Harley Reid
Pick 47 - GWS - Nick Daicos
Pick 48 - Fremantle - Leigh Montagna
Pick 49 - Collingwood - Jacob Weitering
Pick 50 - Geelong - Daniel Kerr
Pick 51 - Port Adelaide - Kysaiah Pickett
Pick 52 - Essendon - Drew Petrie
Pick 53 - Carlton - Nick Blakey
Pick 54 - Sydney - Sam Mitchell

Round 4
Pick 55 - North Melbourne - Darcy Moore
Pick 56 - Richmond - Jimmy Bartel
Pick 57 - West Coast - Patrick Cripps
Pick 58 - Adelaide - Luke Breust
Pick 59 - St Kilda - Shaun Burgoyne
Pick 60 - Brisbane - Steele Sidebottom
Pick 61 - Hawthorn - Steven May
Pick 62 - Western Bulldogs - Josh Gibson
Pick 63 - Melbourne - Mark Blitcavs
Pick 64 - Gold Coast - Michael Walters
Pick 65 - GWS - Bradley Hill
Pick 66 - Fremantle - Izak Rankine
Pick 67 - Collingwood - Josh Kennedy (mid)
Pick 68 - Geelong - Joe Daniher
Pick 69 - Port Adelaide - Clayton Oliver
Pick 70 - Essendon - Daniel Talia
Pick 71 - Carlton - Sam Taylor
Pick 72 - Sydney - Robbie Gray
 
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Geelong Pick 50- Daniel Kerr
I promise my last midfielder 😂, 2 time runner up Brownlow medalist and the perfect player for our team, him and Merrett running bounces with Holmes as well we are finally a fast moving midfield team! It’s going to be a good watch!
Was thinking of a Ruckmen but who really cares where it goes with this midfield now.
 
Based on list needs I think Collingwood is doing super well there. I mean everyone is doing well, well mostly as there is one questionable team there, but I think Collingwood is winning. Their selections just fill such obvious needs.
I think so too, and all with late-in-the-round picks.

NM and Richmond are doing well, as you would expect with those early picks.

Hawthorn and the Bulldogs also look to have done well to me, albeit I can't get the sour taste out of my mouth over a team with Bontempelli recruiting another Bontempelli. Feels too much like Attack of the Clones.
 

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Geelong Pick 50- Daniel Kerr
I promise my last midfielder 😂, 2 time runner up Brownlow medalist and the perfect player for our team, him and Merrett running bounces with Holmes as well we are finally a fast moving midfield team! It’s going to be a good watch!
Was thinking of a Ruckmen but who really cares where it goes with this midfield now.
Three picks and none of them a Cameron/Hawkins (we need someone to join Neale) or Stewart replacement!

The midfield is stocked up - it seems you are skipping B.Smith and spending our entire war chest on a gun key forward via FA. Still, we do have Bowes, Bruhn, Clark and Holmes for a while in the guts. Two superstar mids to join them = fine. Three might be overkill.
 
I think so too, and all with late-in-the-round picks.

NM and Richmond are doing well, as you would expect with those early picks.

Hawthorn and the Bulldogs also look to have done well to me, albeit I can't get the sour taste out of my mouth over a team with Bontempelli recruiting another Bontempelli. Feels too much like Attack of the Clones.
Just imagine Bont has a much younger brother who has been recruited and is equally as good as he is 😄
 
Montagna was a great midfield/wingman/flanker for sure. I think picking just one of he and Goddard, then a Greene/Johnson/Betts type would've been better balanced though.
Betts was gone. I considered Gray, sira, breustc cameron
 
Based on list needs I think Collingwood is doing super well there. I mean everyone is doing well, well mostly as there is one questionable team there, but I think Collingwood is winning. Their selections just fill such obvious needs.

Yeah, they've done well. Getting Hawkins so late was a boon.

They've picked a Key forward, key defender and a mid. I've done the same actually...

N.Riewoldt (v Hawkins)
Andrews (vs Weitering)
Petracca (vs Selwood)

Different lists but interesting to see where our final picks go.
 
Three picks and none of them a Cameron/Hawkins (we need someone to join Neale) or Stewart replacement!

The midfield is stocked up - it seems you are skipping B.Smith and spending our entire war chest on a gun key forward via FA. Still, we do have Bowes, Bruhn, Clark and Holmes for a while in the guts. Two superstar mids to join them = fine. Three might be overkill.
Yeah fair point haha Kerr and Merrett can start on the wing and Fyfe came in as a forward so a couple more years to sort them out. We already have Cameron and Hawkins why pick again? But yes it is overkill just couldn’t resist the star factor over a decent back or forward.
 
I think we can either go to the end of the 3rd round and possibly do a 4th if people are keen, but after that the new "starting from scratch" team which likely will be quite different.

I also nominate Sydney for my team in your thread, I am already thinking of strategies for drafting
:p

I reckon for that draft we do 'AFL era' to spice it up.

1990 drafts and debut's onwards. (Realise this isn't the official AFL era start, but the 80's recruiting gets messy)

Much bigger KPP pool to go around also to make sides competitive.

Koutoufides vs Bont

Richo vs Jeremy Cameron

Hird vs Fyfe

Buckley vs Daicos

Glass vs Weitering

Fev vs Curnow


etc
 
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Yeah fair point haha Kerr and Merrett can start on the wing and Fyfe came in as a forward so a couple more years to sort them out. We already have Cameron and Hawkins why pick again? But yes it is overkill just couldn’t resist the star factor over a decent back or forward.
Ah yes I see you took the same approach as me, that recruiting a clubs existing players again might be pragmatic/best choice available and best fit list needs, but was too boring.

And I do kind of like the idea of stacking a midfield, as in my opinion this has lead to more flags this century than requiring an absolute superstar key forward. As long as they aren't one dimensional slow bulls, they can just as easily be elite wingman too.

Still, Lynch or Walker at your second pick would've also been good.
 
I reckon for that draft we do 'AFL era' to spice it up.

1990 drafts and debut's onwards. (Realise this isn't the official AFL era start, but the 80's recruiting gets messy)

Much bigger KPP pool to go around.
'90's drafts alone could even be interesting. But perhaps works better on the model of this exercise (pick 4 players to join existing lists) rather than filling out entire lists.
 
Ah yes I see you took the same approach as me, that recruiting a clubs existing players again might be pragmatic/best choice available and best fit list needs, but was too boring.

And I do kind of like the idea of stacking a midfield, as in my opinion this has lead to more flags this century than requiring an absolute superstar key forward. As long as they aren't one dimensional slow bulls, they can just as easily be elite wingman too.

Still, Lynch or Walker at your second pick would've also been good.
I’ve got one left
 
I reckon for that draft we do 'AFL era' to spice it up.

1990 drafts and debut's onwards. (Realise this isn't the official AFL era start, but the 80's recruiting gets messy)

Much bigger KPP pool to go around also to make sides competitive.

Koutoufides vs Bont

Richo vs Jeremy Cameron

Hird vs Fyfe

Buckley vs Daicos

Glass vs Weitering

Fev vs Curnow


etc
Where do you draw the line though. My first forward would 100% be Dunstall if I could pick him.
 
Where do you draw the line though. My first forward would 100% be Dunstall if I could pick him.

1990, like I said.

Recruitment and debut in 1990 onwards. It's basically the team of the last 35 years.

All of Carey, Dunstall, Ablett, Lockett, Brereton, Salmon etc would be ineligible.

Jackovich and Hird - Eligible.


1990 prevents a lot of the West Coast state league players who had years behind them being including like Sumich, you get a bit of that with Adelaide's introduction in 1990, but not as bad imo.
 
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1990, like I said.

Recruitment and debut in 1990 onwards. It's basically the team of the last 35 years.

All of Carey, Dunstall, Ablett, Lockett, Brereton, Salmon etc would be ineligible.

Jackovich and Hird - Eligible.
Well it would make it very interesting regarding KPP. I'd almost be starting with KPF, KPD, then probably small forward, KPF, KPD, Half back flanker/winger. Could justify one of the elite mids early too.

I've already got a favorite mid in sights.

I'd like to reserve Freo if we do this, or alternatively Port
 
Well it would make it very interesting regarding KPP. I'd almost be starting with KPF, KPD, then probably small forward, KPF, KPD, Half back flanker/winger. Could justify one of the elite mids early too

Rather than having just Franklin, Riewoldt, Kennedy, Hawkins, J.Riewoldt, Cameron etc.

You then have the likes of

Lloyd, Pavlich, Goodes, Tredrea, Rocca x 2, Neitz, J.Brown, Modra, Gehrig, Fevola, McKernan, Hall, Milne etc.
 
Rather than having just Franklin, Riewoldt, Kennedy, Hawkins, J.Riewoldt, Cameron etc.

You then have the likes of

Lloyd, Pavlich, Goodes, Tredrea, Rocca x 2, Neitz, J.Brown, Modra, Gehrig, Fevola, McKernan, Hall, Milne etc.
There were some bloody good players in that 96 Kangas side
 
I reckon for that draft we do 'AFL era' to spice it up.

1990 drafts and debut's onwards. (Realise this isn't the official AFL era start, but the 80's recruiting gets messy)

Much bigger KPP pool to go around also to make sides competitive.

Koutoufides vs Bont

Richo vs Jeremy Cameron

Hird vs Fyfe

Buckley vs Daicos

Glass vs Weitering

Fev vs Curnow


etc

I actually think it's a little more fun when the pool is a little smaller, rather than bigger.

I mean in this version - we are already 50 picks in and there are still absolute 'all-time' superstars not yet selected.

The skill in this is when the pools starts to thin a little and whether you can get your strategy right and whether you can find good 'diamonds in the rough' and good role players in the latter rounds.

Looking at the 3-4 rounds of this one so far, it's actually really hard to say who did better because you are comparing one group of superstars to another. Adding another decade of superstars may just mean it's guns across every position which I think takes some of the fun (and some of the skill and some of the ability to meaningfully compare) out of it.

With all of that said, it's not up to me and I be happy to go with what the majority want so let me know your preferences before this draft wraps up so I can implement it for the 'full 22' draft.
 
I actually think it's a little more fun when the pool is a little smaller, rather than bigger.

I mean in this version - we are already 50 picks in and there are still absolute 'all-time' superstars not yet selected.

The skill in this is when the pools starts to thin a little and whether you can get your strategy right and whether you can find good 'diamonds in the rough' and good role players in the latter rounds.

Looking at the 3-4 rounds of this one so far, it's actually really hard to say who did better because you are comparing one group of superstars to another. Adding another decade of superstars may just mean it's guns across every position which I think takes some of the fun (and some of the skill and some of the ability to meaningfully compare) out of it.

With all of that said, it's not up to me and I be happy to go with what the majority want so let me know your preferences before this draft wraps up so I can implement it for the 'full 22' draft.
I like the 1990 cutoff.
 

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