21st century Mock Draft

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RUNVS

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So this is my thinking. I am thinking this could be an all encompassing 21st century mock draft. This is we line up every player drafted in the 21st century as an 18 year old, knowing the players they became and we decide who goes where.

For the draft order I am thinking the current ladder

So

Pick 1 - North Melbourne
Pick 2 - Richmond
Pick 3 - West Coast
Pick 4 - Adelaide
Pick 5 - St Kilda
Pick 6 - Brisbane
Pick 7 - Hawthorn
Pick 8 - Western Bulldogs
Pick 9 - Melbourne
Pick 10 - Gold Coast
Pick 11 - GWS
Pick 12 - Fremantle
Pick 13 - Collingwood
Pick 14 - Geelong
Pick 15 - Port Adelaide
Pick 16 - Essendon
Pick 17 - Carlton
Pick 18 - Sydney

and so on for 3 rounds.

The rules are to treat this like an actual mock draft, so pick the player who is either best available or best suits your list.

So my general idea is people will nominate a club they want to pick for, and hopefully we get enough people who want to participate so we don't have any double ups. I hope to go for 3 rounds but we will see how it goes.

Now the rule here is that you are only able to pick players who were drafted in the 2000 draft or later, I know technically 2000 is not the 21st century but these players would have only started playing in 2001 which is the 21st century. I have also made some lists of players who have won the All Australian at least 3 times, but also included some other awards too, but by no means do you only need to select from the list.

You are also free to nominate someone who has been retired for 5 years, or if you feel really confident, happy to include a player who is only in their second year, if you believe they have enough talent to be ahead of more established players. For instance it would not surprise me if Nick Daicos or Harley Reid end up in the first or second rounds despite having very little experience compared to a lot of players on this list.

So here we go

Key Forwards
8 – Lance Franklin | 2008, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2014, 2016, 2017, 2018
5 - Tom Hawkins | 2012, 2019, 2020, 2021, 2022
5 - Nick Riewoldt | 2004, 2006, 2008, 2009, 2014
3 - Jeremy Cameron | 2013, 2019, 2022
3 - Josh Kennedy | 2015, 2016, 2017
3 - Jack Riewoldt | 2010, 2015, 2018

Key Defenders
5 - Alex Rance | 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018
4 - Jeremy McGovern | 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019

Ruckmen
6 - Dean Cox | 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2011, 2012
6 - Max Gawn | 2016, 2018, 2019, 2020, 2021, 2022
4 - Aaron Sandilands | 2008, 2009, 2010, 2014
3 - Nick Naitanui | 2012, 2020, 2021

Midfielder
8 – Gary Ablett Jr. | 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014
8 – Patrick Dangerfield | 2012, 2013, 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019, 2020
6 - Chris Judd | 2004, 2006, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011
6 - Joel Selwood | 2009, 2010, 2013, 2014, 2016, 2017
6 - Scott Pendlebury | 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2019
5 - Dane Swan | 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013
5 - Marcus Bontempelli | 2016, 2019, 2020, 2021, 2023
4 - Dustin Martin | 2016, 2017, 2018, 2020
4 - Christian Petracca | 2020, 2021, 2022, 2023
3 - Clayton Oliver | 2018, 2021, 2022
3 - Patrick Cripps | 2018, 2019, 2022
3 - Travis Boak | 2013, 2014, 2020
3 - Josh Kennedy | 2012, 2014, 2016
3 - Sam Mitchell | 2011, 2013, 2015

Other Defenders
5 - Tom Stewart | 2018, 2019, 2021, 2022, 2023
3 - Luke Hodge | 2005, 2008, 2010

Other Forwards
4 - Cyril Rioli | 2008, 2013, 2014, 2015
3 - Eddie Betts | 2015, 2016, 2017
3 - Tom Greene | 2016, 2021, 2023
3 - Robby Grey | 2014, 2015, 2017, 2018

Coleman Medal
4 - Lance Franklin | 2008, 2011, 2014, 2017
3 - Jack Riewoldt | 2010, 2012, 2018
2 - Josh Kennedy | 2015, 2016
2 - Charlie Curnow | 2022, 2023
1 - Tom Hawkins | 2021
1 - Jeremy Carmeron | 2019
1 - Jarryd Roughead | 2013

Norm Smith Medal
3 - Dustin Martin | 2017, 2019, 2020
2 - Luke Hodge | 2008, 2014

Brownlow Medal
2 - Gary Ablett Jnr | 2009, 2013
2 - Nate Fyfe | 2015, 2019
2 - Lachie Neale | 2020, 2023
2 - Chris Judd | 2004, 2010

If I have missed anyone who has 3 All Australians or more feel very free to tell me.

For anyone who wants to refresh their memories

en.wikipedia.org

All-Australian team - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org en.wikipedia.org

List of Brownlow Medal winners - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org en.wikipedia.org

Norm Smith Medal - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org en.wikipedia.org


North Melbourne Sphynx
Richmond reggie
West Coast ArdentEagle
Adelaide eth-dog
St Kilda Mr Meow
Brisbane eth-dog
Hawthorn Guardian Hawk
Western Bulldogs PhoenixBonez
Melbourne MarcMaverick
Gold Coast WilloTree
GWS boncer34
Fremantle Purple7x08_24
Collingwood Fadge
Geelong Lingsface
Port Adelaide whatwhatsaywhat
Essendon RedmanWasHere
Carlton MC Bad Genius
Sydney theasian

If anyone wants to be assigned a specific team please say so. Lets see if this works :p

and so far

Pick 1 - North Melbourne - Lance Franklin
Pick 2 - Richmond - Gary Ablett Jnr
Pick 3 - West Coast - Max Gawn
Pick 4 - Adelaide - Chris Judd
Pick 5 - St Kilda - Patrick Dangerfield
Pick 6 - Brisbane - Dean Cox
Pick 7 - Hawthorn - Nick Riewoldt
Pick 8 - Western Bulldogs - Marcus Bontempelli
Pick 9 - Melbourne - Dustin Martin
Pick 10 - Gold Coast - Josh Kennedy (KPF)
Pick 11 - GWS - Alex Rance
Pick 12 - Fremantle - Charlie Curnow
Pick 13 - Collingwood - Joel Selwood
Pick 14 - Geelong - Nate Fyfe
Pick 15 - Port Adelaide - Tom Stewart
Pick 16 - Essendon - Mark Coughlan
Pick 17 - Carlton - Aaron Sandilands
Pick 18 - Sydney - Brian Lake

Round 2
Pick 19 - North Melbourne - Scott Pendlebury
Pick 20 - Richmond - Jeremy Cameron
Pick 21 - West Coast - Luke Hodge
Pick 22 - Adelaide - Brodie Grundy
Pick 23 - St Kilda - Dane Swan
Pick 24 - Brisbane - Harry Taylor
Pick 25 - Hawthorn - Christian Petracca
Pick 26 - Western Bulldogs - Jeremy McGovern
Pick 27 - Melbourne - Jack Riewoldt
Pick 28 - Gold Coast - Shannon Hurn
Pick 29 - GWS - Jaryd Roughead
Pick 30 - Fremantle - Brendon Goddard
Pick 31 - Collingwood - Tom Hawkins
Pick 32 - Geelong- Zach Merrett
Pick 33 - Port Adelaide - Tom Lynch
Pick 34 - Essendon - Ben McEvoy
Pick 35 - Carlton - Stephen Milne
Pick 36 - Sydney - Taylor Walker

Round 3
Pick 37 - North Melboune - Steve Johnson
Pick 38 - Richmond - Nic Naitanui
Pick 39 - West Coast - Cyril Rioli
Pick 40 - Adelaide - Michael Hurley
Pick 41 - St Kilda - Toby Greene
Pick 42 - Brisbane - Andrew Mackie
Pick 43 - Hawthorn - Harris Andrews
Pick 44 - Western Bulldogs - Eddie Betts
Pick 45 - Melbourne - Lachie Neale
Pick 46 - Gold Coast - Harley Reid
Pick 47 - GWS - Nick Daicos
Pick 48 - Fremantle - Leigh Montagna
Pick 49 - Collingwood - Jacob Weitering
Pick 50 - Geelong - Daniel Kerr
Pick 51 - Port Adelaide - Kysaiah Pickett
Pick 52 - Essendon - Drew Petrie
Pick 53 - Carlton - Nick Blakey
Pick 54 - Sydney - Sam Mitchell

Round 4
Pick 55 - North Melbourne - Darcy Moore
Pick 56 - Richmond - Jimmy Bartel
Pick 57 - West Coast - Patrick Cripps
Pick 58 - Adelaide - Luke Breust
Pick 59 - St Kilda - Shaun Burgoyne
Pick 60 - Brisbane - Steele Sidebottom
Pick 61 - Hawthorn - Steven May
Pick 62 - Western Bulldogs - Josh Gibson
Pick 63 - Melbourne - Mark Blitcavs
Pick 64 - Gold Coast - Michael Walters
Pick 65 - GWS - Bradley Hill
Pick 66 - Fremantle - Izak Rankine
Pick 67 - Collingwood - Josh Kennedy (mid)
Pick 68 - Geelong - Joe Daniher
Pick 69 - Port Adelaide - Clayton Oliver
Pick 70 - Essendon - Daniel Talia
Pick 71 - Carlton - Sam Taylor
Pick 72 - Sydney - Robbie Gray
 
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eth-dog said:
I like the 1990 cutoff.
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From a purely selfish point of view my problem with a 1990 cut off is that I am far less familiar with the mid to lesser players from that era as I am too young to really remember much of their careers. I suspect the same is true for a lot of people on this forum.

For instance, if I was selecting a 21st century team I would quite happily use Héritier Lumumba as a late pick for my team as I really rated him as a player, but I would not know the 90's equivalent of Lumumba, a player who I believe was underrated as I never really watched the players of that era. Going back to 1990 sort of creates a less precise mock draft due to so many people not having been old enough to really remember the era well.
 
RUNVS said:
From a purely selfish point of view my problem with a 1990 cut off is that I am far less familiar with the mid to lesser players from that era as I am too young to really remember much of their careers. I suspect the same is true for a lot of people on this forum.

For instance, if I was selecting a 21st century team I would quite happily use Héritier Lumumba as a late pick for my team as I really rated him as a player, but I would not know the 90's equivalent of Lumumba, a player who I believe was underrated as I never really watched the players of that era. Going back to 1990 sort of creates a less precise mock draft due to so many people not having been old enough to really remember the era well.
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All that would happen is some people would take Ben Hart, Rohan Smith, Gavin Wanganeen, Andy McKay, Michael Mansfield, Ang Christou (I'm sure you're familiar with a few of them) etc while you take Lumumba.
 
RUNVS said:
From a purely selfish point of view my problem with a 1990 cut off is that I am far less familiar with the mid to lesser players from that era as I am too young to really remember much of their careers. I suspect the same is true for a lot of people on this forum.

For instance, if I was selecting a 21st century team I would quite happily use Héritier Lumumba as a late pick for my team as I really rated him as a player, but I would not know the 90's equivalent of Lumumba, a player who I believe was underrated as I never really watched the players of that era. Going back to 1990 sort of creates a less precise mock draft due to so many people not having been old enough to really remember the era well.
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As am I but that's what footy wire is for.
 
finally kornes gets his man to the pear and FINALLY all those 'rumours' - the ones kornes kept feeding the hungry media - are true, and kysaiah pickett is a power playa

he's currently tracking statistically second only to the wizard and mick malhouse's favourite --pist as a small forward for the ages

so that's a defensive general (tom stewart), a gun tall forward (tom lynch), and an excitement machine (koz) into the existing pear 23, and i'm confident they'll all play from rd 1...

are we going to a fourth round?

RedmanWasHere , yr up
 
whatwhatsaywhat said:
finally kornes gets his man to the pear and FINALLY all those 'rumours' - the ones kornes kept feeding the hungry media - are true, and kysaiah pickett is a power playa

he's currently tracking statistically second only to the wizard and mick malhouse's favourite --pist as a small forward for the ages

so that's a defensive general (tom stewart), a gun tall forward (tom lynch), and an excitement machine (koz) into the existing pear 23, and i'm confident they'll all play from rd 1...

are we going to a fourth round?

RedmanWasHere , yr up
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Yes I think we will do a 4th round. That feels like a good point to go to.
 
whatwhatsaywhat said:
finally kornes gets his man to the pear and FINALLY all those 'rumours' - the ones kornes kept feeding the hungry media - are true, and kysaiah pickett is a power playa

he's currently tracking statistically second only to the wizard and mick malhouse's favourite --pist as a small forward for the ages

so that's a defensive general (tom stewart), a gun tall forward (tom lynch), and an excitement machine (koz) into the existing pear 23, and i'm confident they'll all play from rd 1...

are we going to a fourth round?

RedmanWasHere , yr up
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Thanks WWSW.

Did somebody say MenuLog I mean, FRANK THE TANK!

Pick 52 for Essendon: Drew Petrie. (Nephew of Rotten Ronnie Andrews.)

Pick 53 is on the clock

 

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Lingsface said:
This is blasphemy Wanganeen Hart comparison to Harry Obrien!
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To be fair I was just reeling off quality half backs (some superstars, some a little more under the radar) from the 90s to highlight the depth. Many more could've been named who started peaking in the early to mid 2000's.

If we did that draft you have 18 teams and 36 half backs. That's about 12 from the 90's, 12 from the 00's and 12 from the 10's/20's. Plenty to go around.
 
Mr Meow said:
To be fair I was just reeling off quality half backs (some superstars, some a little more under the radar) from the 90s to highlight the depth. Many more could've been named who started peaking in the early to mid 2000's.
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ok ok haha. How many ok half backs can you name?
Garrick Ibbotson, Brett Jones, Josh Hunt, Greg Tivendale, Michael Prior, Damien Hardwick there is quite a few!
 
Mr Meow said:
To be fair I was just reeling off quality half backs (some superstars, some a little more under the radar) from the 90s to highlight the depth. Many more could've been named who started peaking in the early to mid 2000's.

If we did that draft you have 18 teams and 36 half backs. That's about 12 from the 90's, 12 from the 00's and 12 from the 10's/20's. Plenty to go around.
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Problem for me, and I suspect a lot of others on this site is how many people where actually weatched Hart play? I knew so little about him I assumed he was Royce Hart before I looked him up and realised Royce was born in 1948 so they had to be referring to someone else.

I couldn't include Shaun in the team simply because I know so little about him, and I suspect there are plenty of other people on this board who are in a similar boat. Hell, as a kid my favourite player was Rowan Warfe because he had a similar name to a Star Trek character I liked.

I am however much more confident about my knowledge of players drafted 2000 and later.
 
RUNVS said:
Problem for me, and I suspect a lot of others on this site is how many people where actually weatched Hart play? I knew so little about him I assumed he was Royce Hart before I looked him up and realised Royce was born in 1948 so they had to be referring to someone else.

I couldn't include Shaun in the team simply because I know so little about him, and I suspect there are plenty of other people on this board who are in a similar boat. Hell, as a kid my favourite player was Rowan Warfe because he had a similar name to a Star Trek character I liked.

I am however much more confident about my knowledge of players drafted 2000 and later.
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Ah, a youngling.

I mean Ben Hart, superstar defender of the Crows flag teams in the '90s. He played on talls and smalls, elite rebounder.

I think you underestimate how old a lot of people on here are, that at the very least were immersed in '90s football growing up, with players whose careers then extended into the 2000's. Even if memories are a bit foggy. I'm a footy nerd so still watch/rewatch stuff from that era in the background from time to time.
 
Mr Meow said:
Ah, a youngling.

I mean Ben Hart, superstar defender of the Crows flag teams in the '90s. He played on talls and smalls, elite rebounder.

I think you underestimate how old a lot of people on here are, that at the very least were immersed in '90s football growing up, with players whose careers then extended into the 2000's. Even if memories are a bit foggy. I'm a footy nerd so still watch/rewatch stuff from that era in the background from time to time.
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For me growing up in NSW (born 88) I followed the occasional Swans game in the late 90's but it wasn't until around 2000 I started watching every Swans game and it wasn't until around 2003 that I started watching a significant portion of other games during the round. Means other than the greats of the 90's my knowledge of the players who played back then is fairly limited.

I distinctly remember the first game I ever went to was a North Melbourne home game at the SCG when my dad got free tickets somewhere.
 
RUNVS said:
For me growing up in NSW (born 88) I followed the occasional Swans game in the late 90's but it wasn't until around 2000 I started watching every Swans game and it wasn't until around 2003 that I started watching a significant portion of other games during the round. Means other than the greats of the 90's my knowledge of the players who played back then is fairly limited.
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It was impossible to get away from in Victoria and then anyone with a FoxFooty subscription would get flooded with stuff from that era thereafter. But of course, people no matter the age or location won't have seen as much from an era where less was televised. A game or two on the weekend (e.g Friday Night Footy), then snippets from the highlight show made up the majority of "knowledge" for games you couldn't attend. Then of course the finals, most of which are still available along with some other random games.

But it wouldn't be like we are drafting Coventry and Dier. There's enough to go off and in a lot of cases these '90s drafted players were playing excellent football in the 2000's (think about how many guns were drafted '94 through '99).
 
Lingsface said:
ok ok haha. How many ok half backs can you name?
Garrick Ibbotson, Brett Jones, Josh Hunt, Greg Tivendale, Michael Prior, Damien Hardwick there is quite a few!
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The okay ones from the 90s is probably where I still struggle despite watching footy back then. It gets harder to remember "non stars" outside of your own club from that far back. We had Mansfield and Sanderson, Sholl and McGrath - although he still played on the big boys.

Hunt, Wojo, Milburn, Tuohy all decent to very good from more recent years.

Reducing to "just okay" is hard, but a bunch of good to ultra elite half backs/back pockets over the years: McLeod, C.Johnson, Smart, Pickett, Peckett, Sexton, Bowden, Birchall, the Scott's, Darrell White, Heuskes, Montgomery, S.Burgoyne, Malcheski, Barry, Wirrpunda, Fisher, Murphy, Wellman, Archer, Gilbee, C.Brown, Clement, N.Smith, Shaw, M.Johnson, McVeigh, Docherty, Laird, Whitfield, Ryan, Rich, Saad, Sinclair, Houston, Blakey.
 

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