Player Watch #35: Nathan Broad - Re-Signed until 2026

[THE_GUN]

Whilst i do love broady he is expendable in my opinion and is not integral to our structure or team as other may think , He is a Role player that plays his negating role well but thats all he offers and these players can be replaced and We wont miss a great deal with him gone from our structure and wouldnt surprise me if a player that has not been mentioned yet is ready to go and fits in straight away and that may not be Garth.
We have a Bigger , Faster , Stronger versions of Broady that has a bigger leap ready to go in 2021.

21 year old 195cm 95kgs drafted in the same year as Higgins,CCJ,Balta,Naish
#46 - Ben Miller




Or with the Pies shitting the bed soon we could just get Darcy Moore

 

[captain blood 17]

Garth is in his 4th year on the list this season.

His first year was the 2017 premiership season where he didn’t get a look in.

His second season was 2018 when we finished top and he played two games and did fine all things considered.

His third season he was badly hampered by not getting in a pre season. As he was coming back looking to run into form and fitness at VFL level, in short order we lose Rance for the season then Grimes cops a week and with no other viable option he gets thrust underdone into a match against the Giants and gets isolated on Jeremy Cameron and it didn’t go well for him. They sent him down to the VFL team to gain fitness but he was always playing catchup fitness wise and by now has had his reputation and confidence destroyed. After running into some sort of form after 3-4 weeks he was reinstated to the team and with the now full backline in place bar Rance he did ok v Freo but he noticeably tired in this game. Then Astbury gets injured and he is again thrust into roles that would probably be beyond him after a full pre-season. He was only playing AFL from then out of absolute necessity and I would just forget these games when assessing him.

Then this season of course there is no VFL, we start getting some injuries again and just when he could have come in for a game, he gets a groin. It is imo really difficult to say authoritatively this bloke is not an AFL footballer. I don’t think any of us think he is likely to be a world beater but there is every chance he could be a reasonable role player yet.

I think the club will want to retain him.

i was out by a year and Garth is a limited footballer. No way he takes Broads spot.

 

[Walt Kowalski]

Garth is nowhere Broadys ability.

Since we've become a good team, this matters a bit less. It's about getting in to our structure.

When Rance was going to come back, Broad was seen as expendable by plenty of people on here. Garth just has to do what Broad does now, lock down on a bigger bloke.

We still have Astbury to return. We have invested in Balta as a KPD. Grimes can play KPD or on a small. Vlos is pretty versatile. Garth is a project with a bit of experience.

Don't get me wrong, I'd love to keep Broad. He's an upgrade on Garth, at this point. But he's also the sort of guy who we'd be mad to throw dollars at just because the Suns want him. He's 27 and he's a role player. We could let him go and probably offer a contract to a bunch of guys at other clubs who are his age and and have his ability who would come across for the chance to play in a flag. He's essentially in the same position BEllis was last year.

 

[Jozzy]

Whilst i do love broady he is expendable in my opinion and is not integral to our structure or team as other may think , He is a Role player that plays his negating role well but thats all he offers and these players can be replaced and We wont miss a great deal with him gone from our structure and wouldnt surprise me if a player that has not been mentioned yet is ready to go and fits in straight away and that may not be Garth.
We have a Bigger , Faster , Stronger versions of Broady that has a bigger leap ready to go in 2021.

21 year old 195cm 95kgs drafted in the same year as Higgins,CCJ,Balta,Naish
#46 - Ben Miller




Or with the Pies shitting the bed soon we could just get Darcy Moore

With all due respect to Ben Miller, the club decided against originally taking him to the hub because of how far away he is from playing in our best twenty two.

I really struggle to see a player who’s never played a senior game and almost never even appeared in the best for our reserves be able to step up and replace one of our better performers for this season and a two time Premiership player.

 

[Sir_Loin]

i was out by a year and Garth is a limited footballer. No way he takes Broads spot.

disagree. When Garth plays it’s like we have an extra man on the field. Will go down as one the greatest defensive midfielders the game has even seen. Just ask Jonathan Brown.

 

[Meteoric Rise]

i was out by a year and Garth is a limited footballer. No way he takes Broads spot.

All footballers are limited to some extent. Garth has things he can do well, but we are surely not in a position to judge exactly where his limits are as yet. Right now it is clear the club thinks Broad is better than Garth, selection shows that. But you know, Rioli was ahead of Bolton, everyone was ahead of Balta, Grigg was ahead of Soldo, Deledio was indispensable, and so on. Things change, The Crows unloaded Lever against their will, and then discovered Doedee can play a similar role at least as well....

Obviously it would not be wise to just offload good players in the hope of unearthing someone better, but while it is certain there will be things Broad can do well that Garthwaite cannot, equally, there will be things Garth can do well that Broad cannot.

Ultimately though, most of this will come down to economics. Can we afford to keep Broad? If not, you let him go, wish him all the best and move on to the next best option.

 

[juss]

Whilst i do love broady he is expendable in my opinion and is not integral to our structure or team as other may think , He is a Role player that plays his negating role well but thats all he offers and these players can be replaced and We wont miss a great deal with him gone from our structure and wouldnt surprise me if a player that has not been mentioned yet is ready to go and fits in straight away and that may not be Garth.
We have a Bigger , Faster , Stronger versions of Broady that has a bigger leap ready to go in 2021.

21 year old 195cm 95kgs drafted in the same year as Higgins,CCJ,Balta,Naish
#46 - Ben Miller




Or with the Pies shitting the bed soon we could just get Darcy Moore

Broad walks in to just about any team in the back pocket, flank or interchange. I dont think a current no name that hasn't really done anything is going to walk in and replace Broad

 

[JAKLAUGHING]

Whilst i do love broady he is expendable in my opinion and is not integral to our structure or team as other may think , He is a Role player that plays his negating role well but thats all he offers and these players can be replaced and We wont miss a great deal with him gone from our structure and wouldnt surprise me if a player that has not been mentioned yet is ready to go and fits in straight away and that may not be Garth.
We have a Bigger , Faster , Stronger versions of Broady that has a bigger leap ready to go in 2021.

21 year old 195cm 95kgs drafted in the same year as Higgins,CCJ,Balta,Naish
#46 - Ben Miller




Or with the Pies shitting the bed soon we could just get Darcy Moore

Up to said player to show he's a better option than Broady...to date no way...

 

[dothebowdenshuffle]

I'd rather we let Nankervis go and keep Soldo as our #1 ruck with CCJ as back up and KPF.

Broad is 27 and Garth is 22. Pretty similar in size. Confident Garth could come in and do a similar role to the one Broad is doing.

I agree on Garth for sure, he's got pure defensive integrity as a player. If we had to let a ruck go, Nank probably is the one you'd think we could cover. Be nice to keep them all but agree the footy economics is structured toward player freedom of movement.

 

[El Tigre]

Broad covers alot of ground, and we would have to restructure how the back 6 work a bit if he wasnt there. He also has that versatility to play on smaller types like Grimes that is very difficult to replace like for like.

 

[THE_GUN]

Up to said player to show he's a better option than Broady...to date no way...

Well where was Nathan Broad at the age of 21 ?

I would argue that just by being on an AFL list that Miller is ahead of Broad at the same age and whats to say he wont be even better in 4 years time with all the development he would of had. He is bigger faster and stronger than Broad

 

[JAKLAUGHING]

Well where was Nathan Broad at the age of 21 ?

I would argue that just by being on an AFL list that Miller is ahead of Broad at the same age and whats to say he wont be even better in 4 years time with all the development he would of had. He is bigger faster and stronger than Broad

I would also argue timing...right now you want to replace Broady with a Miller?!?!

 

[Grrr]

Whilst i do love broady he is expendable in my opinion and is not integral to our structure or team as other may think , He is a Role player that plays his negating role well but thats all he offers and these players can be replaced and We wont miss a great deal with him gone from our structure and wouldnt surprise me if a player that has not been mentioned yet is ready to go and fits in straight away and that may not be Garth.
We have a Bigger , Faster , Stronger versions of Broady that has a bigger leap ready to go in 2021.

21 year old 195cm 95kgs drafted in the same year as Higgins,CCJ,Balta,Naish
#46 - Ben Miller




Or with the Pies shitting the bed soon we could just get Darcy Moore

Miller and Broad are not the same type. Although quick, no way is he's quicker than Broad nor does he cover the ground like Broad, nor is he as good at ground level. I like Miller, reckon he'd be a better forward than back, but he has good pace for a big guy so might make a good full back also. But he'd want to get a wriggle on. Another player hard pressed to show much without the VFA, so it is really hard to know where he is at. But it is a good way behind Broad that's for sure.

 

[Cdog71]

Well where was Nathan Broad at the age of 21 ?

I would argue that just by being on an AFL list that Miller is ahead of Broad at the same age and whats to say he wont be even better in 4 years time with all the development he would of had. He is bigger faster and stronger than Broad

Broad played in the 17 Granny after 12 games and has hardly missed since.

 

[rfctigerarmy]

Super underrated for mine. I hope he stays.

 

[Andyy]

Wonderful player.

Thank you for the 4 premiership medals

 

[k31th]

Wonderful player.

Thank you for the 4 premiership medals

I see what you did there

 

[THE_GUN]

Miller and Broad are not the same type. Although quick, no way is he's quicker than Broad nor does he cover the ground like Broad, nor is he as good at ground level. I like Miller, reckon he'd be a better forward than back, but he has good pace for a big guy so might make a good full back also. But he'd want to get a wriggle on. Another player hard pressed to show much without the VFA, so it is really hard to know where he is at. But it is a good way behind Broad that's for sure.

Ben is quicker and a better athlete than Broad as well as being bigger at 196cm
" Ben is an elite athlete, who was ranked in the top two at the AFL post-season Combine for both speed and agility. Those attributes are evident in his football, along with an exceptional vertical leap, which enables him to successfully compete as a ruckman against taller opponents. "

His Draft Combine time of 2.91 seconds for 20m was extremely impressive for a tall. (thats Brett Deledio speed)

Look im not saying this will be the case but the club will know exactly where we are at with these players like Miller/Markov/Garth but i personally dont think he will be a massive loss with the backup we have in his position

 

[richoatthedisco]

Ben Miller, lol. Bloke's been on the list more years than he's taken marks. Averages 4 disposals in the VFL and I think the stats guy was being generous. He's taller than Broad, that's it. Broad would beat him in a race and a wrestle and probably a fight and a game of tiddlywinks.

He has height and apparently pace, but it would be Leppa's crowning achievement if he could turn him into an AFL-competent backman.

 

[THE_GUN]

Ben Miller, lol. Bloke's been on the list more years than he's taken marks. Averages 4 disposals in the VFL and I think the stats guy was being generous. He's taller than Broad, that's it. Broad would beat him in a race and a wrestle and probably a fight and a game of tiddlywinks.

He has height and apparently pace, but it would be Leppa's crowning achievement if he could turn him into an AFL-competent backman.

You do realise he has been injured for probably 50% of his 2 years on the list ( not counting this year as there is no games)
Also a genuine honest question, Have you ever seen him play richo

 

[Wallaby]

Broad is the most under-rated player on our list. Very fast, always running to create space when we are rebounding, generally makes good decisions - when to go 3rd man up, when to just stick to his man etc.

Two things.

1. You don't notice him much during the game.
2. You notice his opponent even less.

 

[Grrr]

Ben is quicker and a better athlete than Broad as well as being bigger at 196cm
" Ben is an elite athlete, who was ranked in the top two at the AFL post-season Combine for both speed and agility. Those attributes are evident in his football, along with an exceptional vertical leap, which enables him to successfully compete as a ruckman against taller opponents. "

His Draft Combine time of 2.91 seconds for 20m was extremely impressive for a tall. (thats Brett Deledio speed)

Look im not saying this will be the case but the club will know exactly where we are at with these players like Miller/Markov/Garth but i personally dont think he will be a massive loss with the backup we have in his position

I would love Miller to come on, has the great trait of key players in that he is fast and athletic, but Broad is an endurance athlete as well and can play or tall or small.
Again another who suffers from nowhere to show his ability. His best I have seen was a half at CHF against Port Melb. from memory, where he moved like a natural forward. Marked the ball, clean off the ground. No idea why he hasn't played there more often there because we have nobody like him in the wings to replace Jack or Lynch. And with Balta so good in the backline and Astbury back there are no spots for him back there.
2.91 for 20m also helps the big blokes sometimes. Some really big players have done good times in those trials and it does not always equate to speed in games.

 

[peternorth]

Broad is the most under-rated player on our list. Very fast, always running to create space when we are rebounding, generally makes good decisions - when to go 3rd man up, when to just stick to his man etc.

Two things.

1. You don't notice him much during the game.
2. You notice his opponent even less.

I was and am coming here to post that.

A great wedding photographer once told me, the greatest compliment he can receive is that no one ever saw him.

Well that and being paid.

 

[Dr Tigris]

Hope Broad stays, he's an important piece.

But on Miller, the club thinks something of him. They gave him a leadership role in the VFL backline. So either they think he's got smarts and good communication, or they think having to lead will help him develop, or both.

 

[richoatthedisco]

You do realise he has been injured for probably 50% of his 2 years on the list ( not counting this year as there is no games)
Also a genuine honest question, Have you ever seen him play richo

No, he hasn't, and yes, I have. Because I go to VFL games. Plenty of them. Miller has played 36 of Richmond's 41 VFL games since we drafted him.

Have you ever seen him play?