Play Nice 46th President of the United States: Joe Biden 2: Incidit in scyllam cupiens vitare charybdim

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I feel for you “vote blue no matter who” types.

This action shows the Democrat Party is no different to those awful, corrupt, contemptuous Republicans.

They might be even worse.

Who could have seen this coming? Oh well.
I can be disappointed at Biden pardoning his son and still despise those 'contemptuous Republicans'. Not worse than MAGA. They've destroyed the country.
 
Pardons are a corrupt business. Just because Trump is a corrupt, moraless twat doesn't mean Biden had to stoop to that level. I don't believe Hunter to be a bad person but he was found guilty of crimes albeit fairly soft. Out of control in that country- Trump will go on a pardon spree. What a great country :(

Trump was always going on a pardon spree regardless.
 

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At some point the republicans need to stop with the sham inquiries. After the shambolic waste of time and money that was the impeachment inquiry, where Biden was completely exonerated as soon as they dropped it, the republicans should get back to governing.

They have no interest in governing
 
At some point the republicans need to stop with the sham inquiries. After the shambolic waste of time and money that was the impeachment inquiry, where Biden was completely exonerated as soon as they dropped it, the republicans should get back to governing.
You are dreaming if you think either side will stop with the tit-for-tat attacks.

This is who these people are, cut from the same cloth, just dyed red or blue. The sooner people stop picking one side of the same corrupt coin, the better.

The creation of the two-party system allows for both sides to play off the people against each other. It gives each party a scapegoat to blame and deflect from their own shitty actions.

If people have an enemy to blame for their problems, then they dont have to come to harsh realisations.

The same tactic is used in domestic and international politics. Russia, China, Iran, N. Korea etc, the forever "bad guys" that need to be controlled by the benevolent "white knights" in the West. The irony is that each of these countries use exactly the same tactic on their own people, who claim the West are the "bad guys".

The common person needs to realise that the leaders of most countries are the "bad guys" and the common person in each country holds the key to changing this.
 
If a dickhead like Patel was coming after them, he would 100% do that. Or if there was a grift in it for him.
Yep, coming after him, but for what?
Representing and lobbying for a foreign entity, acting as a foreign "agent", without registering it? The pardon goes back to Burisma. There may be a fair bit of self interest in the pardon for Joe as well. We'll never know.
 
Yep, coming after him, but for what?
Representing and lobbying for a foreign entity, acting as a foreign "agent", without registering it? The pardon goes back to Burisma. There may be a fair bit of self interest in the pardon for Joe as well. We'll never know.
It doesn't matter for what. Comer will go on Fox will some unsubstantiated crap a few times a week. It's all performative. He's been saying we found the proof but still never got past the sound bite stage. I believe Burisma thing was already investigated as well, shady but SOP in the ruling/wealthy class for the kids to profit off the names.
It became more and more clear as their 'witnesses' were outed. There was nothing there. If there were, they were criminal masterminds for being able to hide it all these years. :rolleyesv1:
 
Biden stuffed up big time. All my respect for him disappeared in a split second. Just because Trump is corrupt doesn't make pardoning a son okay. Democrats need to hold Biden to account for this and admit it was a major error of judgement.
 
Biden stuffed up big time. All my respect for him disappeared in a split second. Just because Trump is corrupt doesn't make pardoning a son okay. Democrats need to hold Biden to account for this and admit it was a major error of judgement.
And no doubt that’s all true, but I’d have done the same thing as Biden. You can’t leave your son at the mercy of the trump gang.
The whole pardon system is bollocks but hey, it’s America. And the dems need to lift their game in so many ways, this is pretty minor in their array of deficiencies I’d have thought.
 
Biden stuffed up big time. All my respect for him disappeared in a split second. Just because Trump is corrupt doesn't make pardoning a son okay. Democrats need to hold Biden to account for this and admit it was a major error of judgement.
The American people have made their voices clear. The rule of law is not important. Go for it Joe.
 

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Agree 100% but still leaves me feeling disappointment in this decision OR is it disappointment in US politics in general.
It’s worse than disappointing. It’s shocking. They seem to have entered the ‘anything goes’ phase. As poster above said- look at the stuff trump has done and they still voted for him- they don’t care. Beyond belief. Gloves are off.
Ps hunter Biden didn’t actually do much wrong to be fair.
 
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It’s worse than disappointing. It’s shocking. They seem to have entered the ‘anything goes’ phase. As poster above said- look at the stuff trump has done and they still voted for him- they don’t care. Beyond belief. Gloves are off.
Shocking? Disapointing?

When a crook acts like a crook you are shocked and disapointed?
 
Hah! Like they have a choice!

Well, they do, but they are told they dont. Its Red or blue or nothing they say
They do have a choice- the dems are ordinary but light years ahead of trump but their system is stuffed. Their country is stuffed.
 
The American people have made their voices clear. The rule of law is not important. Go for it Joe.
I'd like to see Joe, at a parting speech say, "You may criticize me for pardoning my son. But many of those who do voted for person who was convicted of 34 felonies, and who also pardoned many other convicted felons."
Just put it out there from his bully pulpit.
 
Latest is scuttlebut that Joe is going to issue pre-emptive pardons for people like Fauci and Cheney and others for doing their job


Many of his recent threats targeted prosecutors who charged him with crimes: Smith, Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg and Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis.

He has publicly called for investigations into prominent lawmakers: Cheney and the rest of the January 6 committee members (who he said “should go to jail”), former House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (for her supposed “ties to Russia”), Senator-elect Adam Schiff (for his role in the Trump-Ukraine impeachment saga) and a host of other Democratic lawmakers.

Still, members of Congress have immunity from the Constitution’s “speech or debate clause” that offers such broad protections for their legislative work that even members of the defunct January 6 committee would be unlikely to take seriously any legal threats.

Trump also has said Vice President Kamala Harris “should be … prosecuted” for letting undocumented immigrants into the country. After the election, Trump called for probes of Iowa pollster Ann Selzer (for “election fraud,” by releasing a poll with Harris ahead), and into stock traders who spread “illegal rumors” about his investment in Truth Social.

During his first term, some of Trump’s calls for probes were apparently heeded, leading to investigations into 2016 Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton, former FBI director James Comey, and former FBI deputy director Andy McCabe, now a CNN contributor.
 
Latest is scuttlebut that Joe is going to issue pre-emptive pardons for people like Fauci and Cheney and others for doing their job


Many of his recent threats targeted prosecutors who charged him with crimes: Smith, Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg and Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis.

He has publicly called for investigations into prominent lawmakers: Cheney and the rest of the January 6 committee members (who he said “should go to jail”), former House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (for her supposed “ties to Russia”), Senator-elect Adam Schiff (for his role in the Trump-Ukraine impeachment saga) and a host of other Democratic lawmakers.

Still, members of Congress have immunity from the Constitution’s “speech or debate clause” that offers such broad protections for their legislative work that even members of the defunct January 6 committee would be unlikely to take seriously any legal threats.

Trump also has said Vice President Kamala Harris “should be … prosecuted” for letting undocumented immigrants into the country. After the election, Trump called for probes of Iowa pollster Ann Selzer (for “election fraud,” by releasing a poll with Harris ahead), and into stock traders who spread “illegal rumors” about his investment in Truth Social.

During his first term, some of Trump’s calls for probes were apparently heeded, leading to investigations into 2016 Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton, former FBI director James Comey, and former FBI deputy director Andy McCabe, now a CNN contributor.
If even some of those pardons take place all hell will break lose and Trump will lose his mind. I do think though it makes sense and some of it may happen.
 
If even some of those pardons take place all hell will break lose and Trump will lose his mind. I do think though it makes sense and some of it may happen.
Its bizarro world and the head bizarro has no sense of humanity just revenge. What a petty man Donny is
 

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