Play Nice 47th President of the United States: Donald Trump - Part 20: If you want Capitalism, you got it

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USA - 2024 US Presidential Election: Trump vs Harris (pt II)

Continued from Part 1 - https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/2024-us-presidential-election-trump-vs-harris.1383317/

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USA - Kamala Harris Concedes. God Help America

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< - Trump 19 is back there.

 

[Saint]

Don't know if he gets this started IF he wins.

But it will be part of sociology studies for 1,000s of years if it happens.
Just imagine the political chatter worldwide and the endless political commentary on TV.

It'll be like "build the wall".

He has no intention of doing it, he just wants to complain about immigration and he's made up an unrealistic solution. Underneath it all, it's just an excuse to blame poor immigrants for the fact that the top 1% have hoarded all the wealth and want to continue to do so. And it's enough for racists and shallow thinkers to blame immigrants for their problems.

 

[blueboy25]

Doesn't take a genius to work out that they mean that Trump is the truely elected President, not that he holds the office of the President.

No they actually think Trump is still the president and is the reason why inflation is down, the stock market is at record highs.

 

[Bevoman]

No they actually think Trump is still the president and is the reason why inflation is down, the stock market is at record highs.

Trump as presidnet is good for business, watch Bitcoin take off.

 

[blueboy25]

Trump as presidnet is good for business, watch Bitcoin take off.

Most economists think the market will head north if Trump wins but only for a short while until reality sets in.

 

[Saint]

Most economists think the market will head north if Trump wins but only for a short while until reality sets in.

Last time he announced tariffs, the stock market dropped 2.5%. COVID happened soon after, so the medium term impacts are hard to assess.

 

[Maggie5]

LOL, it's facile and superficial at best.

Of course, that appeals to some people here.

I had to check to see who posted that, then I laughed.

 

[adammania9]

And for what purpose do you believe this was done? Wasn’t the theory at the time it was to have totalitarian rule over us?

Kind of proven to not be the case hasn’t it?

It shouldn’t have been done at all, because anybody with half a decent immune system had nothing to worry about.

What’s shameful is the countless people who attempted to guilt good people for not wanting to give up their freedoms, and mysteriously used the term “selfish” despite it being the other way around. Expecting millions to give up their freedom because a select few were at risk is one of the most selfish things imaginable.


Years on and they still won’t admit they were wrong

 

[awaremind]

It shouldn’t have been done at all, because anybody with half a decent immune system had nothing to worry about.

What’s shameful is the countless people who attempted to guilt good people for not wanting to give up their freedoms, and mysteriously used the term “selfish” despite it being the other way around. Expecting millions to give up their freedom because a select few were at risk is one of the most selfish things imaginable.


Years on and they still won’t admit they were wrong

Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.

Ben Franklin

 

[Maggie5]

Past indicators suggest a red-run USA is better than a blue-run USA.

You are so WRONG!

Read more, following all better with Democrats.

Job growth better
Unemployment lower
Economy growth
Manufacturing jobs higher
Manufacturing investments higher

Of the 11 recessions that have occurred in the modern (post-World War II) era, 10 of them have occurred under Republican presidents.
Republican presidents often inherit strong economies and leave their successors with significantly weaker economies. For example, President George W. Bush inherited a strong economy from President Bill Clinton, and his presidency ended with the Great Recession. President Donald Trump inherited the longest continuous run of job creation in modern U.S. history from President Barack Obama but became the first president in the modern era to oversee net job losses during his term. There were 2.7 million fewer Americans employed when President Trump left office than at the beginning of his term.

The U.S. Economy Performs Better Under Democratic Presidents - The U.S. Economy Performs Better Under Democratic Presidents - United States Joint Economic Committee

www.jec.senate.gov

 

[faible]

Read more

I suspect this would solve a lot of his problems.

Read more, from sources that aren't whatever corner of the internet he's found himself finding things in.

The LNP has tricked people here in to think they're better economic managers despite pretty consistently being worse when it's actually looked at.

 

[Maggie5]

I suspect this would solve a lot of his problems.

Read more, from sources that aren't whatever corner of the internet he's found himself finding things in.

The LNP has tricked people here in to think they're better economic managers despite pretty consistently being worse when it's actually looked at.

The rabbit hole is very deep and wide.

 

[Bloods86]

It shouldn’t have been done at all, because anybody with half a decent immune system had nothing to worry about.

What’s shameful is the countless people who attempted to guilt good people for not wanting to give up their freedoms, and mysteriously used the term “selfish” despite it being the other way around. Expecting millions to give up their freedom because a select few were at risk is one of the most selfish things imaginable.


Years on and they still won’t admit they were wrong

Select few lol.

People refusing to take a safe vaccine (that Trump supports) because they have the mentality of a toddler rebelling against their parents, for the sake of their own health, the performance of the healthcare system, and the lives of many millions who aren't as healthy, are the unselfish ones...righto.

 

[Saint]

Trump without his costume.





Looks a little like President Ford

 

[samFFC]

Cool? Millions die from preventable illnesses every year and always have. Staggering that anybody would still care about Covid

Happy to support your cause to fight preventable deaths!

Do you have a link?

 

[blackshadow]

But when you do

This is more my style. (this unofficial video is so good)

 

[awaremind]

You are so WRONG!

Read more, following all better with Democrats.

Job growth better
Unemployment lower
Economy growth
Manufacturing jobs higher
Manufacturing investments higher

Of the 11 recessions that have occurred in the modern (post-World War II) era, 10 of them have occurred under Republican presidents.
Republican presidents often inherit strong economies and leave their successors with significantly weaker economies. For example, President George W. Bush inherited a strong economy from President Bill Clinton, and his presidency ended with the Great Recession. President Donald Trump inherited the longest continuous run of job creation in modern U.S. history from President Barack Obama but became the first president in the modern era to oversee net job losses during his term. There were 2.7 million fewer Americans employed when President Trump left office than at the beginning of his term.

The U.S. Economy Performs Better Under Democratic Presidents - The U.S. Economy Performs Better Under Democratic Presidents - United States Joint Economic Committee

www.jec.senate.gov

The total homeless population in the US rose 12.1% from 2022 to 2023, reaching its highest point since at least 2007. -( from google )
This is a great sign….

 

[awaremind]

This is more my style.

Love that song

 

[Maggie5]

The total homeless population in the US rose 12.1% from 2022 to 2023, reaching its highest point since at least 2007. -( from google )
This is a great sign….

That's what you got from my post?

Do you have tunnel logic?

 

[JackOutback]

Are you being deliberately disingenuous or are you just poorly informed?

Yes

 

[Saint]

The total homeless population in the US rose 12.1% from 2022 to 2023, reaching its highest point since at least 2007. -( from google )
This is a great sign….

Yep, it reached a low in 2016, then started going up again. It's strange that tax cuts for the rich and cutting services for poor people ended up in more homelessness. I mean every economist and expert told us it would happen, but Trump said it wouldn't.

 

[james Dean]

Trump without his costume.



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Looks a little like President Ford


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Looks like Chuck from Better Call Saul.. Although Chuck may be an even bigger tosser

 

[Chief]

It shouldn’t have been done at all, because anybody with half a decent immune system had nothing to worry about.

And the right genetics. And the right circumstances.

What’s shameful is the countless people who attempted to guilt good people for not wanting to give up their freedoms, and mysteriously used the term “selfish” despite it being the other way around.

Nobody WANTED to live a less free life. That wasn't the aim. That wasn't a celebrated feature.

Expecting millions to give up their freedom because a select few were at risk is one of the most selfish things imaginable.

A select few?

25 odd million people are "a select few"? Upper estimate is over 35 million people. The millions more lives that were saved through public health measures world wide are "a select few"?

Coronavirus (COVID-19) Deaths

This page provides data on the number of confirmed deaths from COVID-19.

ourworldindata.org

Estimated cumulative excess deaths during COVID

For countries that have not reported all-cause mortality data for a given week, an estimate is shown, with uncertainty interval. If reported data is available, that value only is shown.

ourworldindata.org

 

[Maggie5]

Yep, it reached a low in 2016, then started going up again. It's strange that tax cuts for the rich and cutting services for poor people ended up in more homelessness. I mean every economist and expert told us it would happen, but Trump said it wouldn't.

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Trump wanted to cut food stamps and meals for school children whilst giving tax cuts for the rich. If he gets in with a majority in the House I imagine he will try again. Fortunately, wiser heads prevailed when he was President.

The Trump administration has tried three times now to reduce funding for or limit access to the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program, or the food assistance program.

Trump’s Cuts to Food Stamps Almost Made the Pandemic Worse

Advocates halted changes, set to go into effect today, that would have left nearly a million US residents hungry.

www.thenation.com

https://www.reuters.com/article/world/trump-administration-moves-to-remove-700000-people-from-food-stamps-idUSKBN1Y82C4/

 

[happy_eagle]

I think this clip best sums up the whole "time and place" argument to roast comedy.

 

[GreyCrow]

Grievance politics isn't about solutions. Indeed, it's the opposite.

It's about stoking an issue to keep your base riled up.

It used to be abortion for the Republicans until the dog caught the car, and it's the same with Dutton and his nuclear fantasies here.

But at some stage you need to offer a positive path and thats been Trumps biggest failure

So many incel-like middle managers in his sphere of influence who have found a way to hurt everyone they have held a grudge to get payback