Play Nice 47th President of the United States: Donald Trump - Part 21: President Musk

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[Zidane98]

They really did. A butchers bill the likes of which has never been seen, 11 million soldiers and another 15million civilians. Three quarters of Hitlers losses were against the Soviets. D Day would have not been possible without it.

That's only because Hitle double crossed the Russians after doing.a deal with them and make a play for Moscow which was a step too far.

Had the Soviets & Nazis remained allies and stuck to their partitioning of Europe agreement things would have been very different....

 

[Baldur]

Probably been posted, not really reading much of this thread anymore but gosh we need to give this blonde Barbie her own thread. She is dead set nuts / stupid.

Did Blondie see this guy when she was a child and say "That's what I want to be when I grow up".



In any event, they would be speaking Russian, not German. D Day ensured that the Soviet Union did not "liberate" all of western Europe.

 

[Not Important]

anything that moves business away from the u.s and further isolates it economically - bring it on.

Defense giants want von der Leyen to boost made-in-Europe tech

European industrial and tech firms want the EU’s backing to reduce reliance on the U.S.

www.politico.eu

 

[Not Important]

like "empire in decline". that's what's occurring. history shows all empires crash and burn. hopefully it's occurring before our eyes. in the meantime, this blatant racism in the interests of extreme zionists is a blight on the country.

Mondoweiss (@mondoweiss.net)

Helyeh Doutaghi was placed on leave by Yale Law School after being falsely accused of “terrorism” over her support for Palestine. She says her case reflects the new era of Zionist McCarthyism and that this repression reveals an empire in decline...

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Suspended for Pro-Palestine Speech: My statement on Yale Law School’s embrace of AI-generated smears

Helyeh Doutaghi was placed on leave by Yale Law School after being falsely accused of “terrorism” over her support for Palestine. She says her case reflects the new era of Zionist McCarthyism and that this repression reveals an empire in decline.

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[Not Important]

Jewish Voice for Peace (@jvp.bsky.social)

In the US, Trump’s brutal executive orders and now kidnapping of a student endanger all people who stand up for justice and freedom. This is what fascists do as they cement control.

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[bourbons]

If I post my opinions, I will be thread banned. So I will stick to the facts of what has happened.

You'd be thread banned for saying I agree with the admin's rationale in this instance?

No, I don't think you would be?

 

[Festerz]

That's only because Hitle double crossed the Russians after doing.a deal with them and make a play for Moscow which was a step too far.

Had the Soviets & Nazis remained allies and stuck to their partitioning of Europe agreement things would have been very different....

The German Soviet Pact was a treaty of convenience. And it had a sunset clause of ten years. Both sides knowing it would never last that long, especially given the underlying fundamental political differences between Hitler and Stalin.

Neither Hitler nor Stalin (nor Great Britain for that matter) was under any doubt that the two nations would be in conflict over Eastern Europe once Hitler had secured control over Western Europe.

And access to and control over the Ukraine, and its massive food and energy supplies, was a critical component of that treaty of convenience. In the long term any treaty was doomed to failure (what it did do was allow Russia time to begin ramping up military arms production, specifically tanks and aircraft, in the east for when war did eventually break out).

THAT's the basic lesson of geo-political history (amongst others) Trump and his cronies have failed to grasp in their attempt to get a truce with Russia over Ukraine.

 

[Festerz]

The New York Times is tracking all of the most referenced opinion polls in the US on Trump popularity. The results of the most respected/reliable polls, although all tracking the same direction way(downwards against Trump), there is still some way to go before majority disapproval of Trump is universal.

 

[Satan]

The New York Times is tracking all of the most referenced opinion polls in the US on Trump popularity. The results of the most respected/reliable polls, although all tracking the same direction way(downwards against Trump), there is still some way to go before majority disapproval of Trump is universal.


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When results of the mass sackings hit the community not just those directly effected then approval will drop

 

[troybe]

Just the facts, ma’am. Just like Donny wouldn’t know the truth if it slapped her in the face.

 

[RubyLovesTheDees]

You'd be thread banned for saying I agree with the admin's rationale in this instance?

No, I don't think you would be?

Who is the Admin?

 

[bourbons]

Who is the Admin?

The Trump admin.

You seem to be implying you agree with their theory that deportation of this bloke is justified under specific conditions, like those cited in his case under the Immigration and Nationality Act.

I don't think you'll be thread banned for saying that. Positive you won't be, in fact.

You may hold other opinions that you're aching to espouse which might see you banned, of course

 

[magpie_marty]

Noticed a picture today of people being deported back to Venezuela,
What struck me they all had there heads shaved!

 

[RubyLovesTheDees]

The Trump admin.

You seem to be implying you agree with their theory that deportation of this bloke is justified under specific conditions, like those cited in his case under the Immigration and Nationality Act.

I don't think you'll be thread banned for saying that. Positive you won't be, in fact.

You may hold other opinions that you're aching to espouse which might see you banned, of course

 

[Geelong_Sicko]

I think Americans are hard-wired into believing this because of the movies.

Soviets did the heavy lifting.

True. There's poetic license and then there's bullshit. Take that movie from the year 2000 'U-571'. It stole credit for cracking Hitler's Enigma code from the Poms and awarded it to the Yanks!

They weren't happy about it either

https://www.warhistoryonline.com/world-war-ii/u-571-movie.html

 

[Geelong_Sicko]

Noticed a picture today of people being deported back to Venezuela,
What struck me they all had there heads shaved!

Don't prisons do that to crack down on the spread of head lice?

 

[Satan]

Don't prisons do that to crack down on the spread of head lice?

all the prisoners at that el salvador jail are bald, thinking its more to take their individuality away.

those were sent from usa , there is a court case about it as to whether trump doj disobeyed judges ruling

 

[Saint]

Tesla is down 37% ytd, BYD is up 48% year to date.

Most other car makers (in Japan, US and Europe) are within +/- 10%, with Volkswagon (+25%) and SAIC (-25%) being the exceptions.

 

[T2B_]

Probably been posted, not really reading much of this thread anymore but gosh we need to give this blonde Barbie her own thread. She is dead set nuts / stupid.

Seems to be the most common rhetoric out of the Trump camp - <insert country/person/whatever> should be grateful/thankful

 

[RubyLovesTheDees]

True. There's poetic license and then there's bullshit. Take that movie from the year 2000 'U-571'. It stole credit for cracking Hitler's Enigma code from the Poms and awarded it to the Yanks!

They weren't happy about it either

https://www.warhistoryonline.com/world-war-ii/u-571-movie.html

Yep. Enjoyable submarine film, though. Peak Mathew

Imitation game was great.

 

[Strange Cat]

Probably been posted, not really reading much of this thread anymore but gosh we need to give this blonde Barbie her own thread. She is dead set nuts / stupid.

Cool, America needs to say thank you/**** you (depending on how you see it) for France saving America from the Britain’s

Just to think they could had free universal Helath care and maybe no trump if they didn’t win that war.

 

[rank and file]

all the prisoners at that el salvador jail are bald, thinking its more to take their individuality away.

those were sent from usa , there is a court case about it as to whether trump doj disobeyed judges ruling

Any idea why Venezuelans get sent to El Salvador?
Thought it was back to where you came from.

 

[Geelong_Sicko]

That's only because Hitle double crossed the Russians after doing.a deal with them and make a play for Moscow which was a step too far.

Had the Soviets & Nazis remained allies and stuck to their partitioning of Europe agreement things would have been very different....

There's good reason to surmise that Stalin, knowing Hitler's attitude toward Communism, only signed that pact to buy time for Soviet rearmament.

Nazi-Soviet Pact

The Nazi-Soviet Pact, also called the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact after the respective foreign ministers of the USSR and Germany, was a non-aggression agreement signed in August 1939. The pact allowed the...

www.worldhistory.org

by Mark Cartwright
22 November 2024

The Nazi-Soviet Pact, also called the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact after the respective foreign ministers of the USSR and Germany, was a non-aggression agreement signed in August 1939. The pact allowed the leader of Nazi Germany Adolf Hitler (1889-1945) to attack Poland and then Western Europe without having to face at the same time a Soviet army. Meanwhile, the leader of the USSR Joseph Stalin (1878-1953) acquired freedom of action in Eastern Europe and bought valuable time to continue rearmament.

The Nazi-Soviet Pact carved up Central and Eastern Europe into two spheres of influence between the two signees, led to direct occupations of free countries, and directly influenced where much of the fighting occurred in the first two years of the Second World War (1939-45). The agreement was, though, shattered when Germany attacked the USSR in June 1941.

Hitler's Foreign Policy

In order to understand why the USSR signed a treaty with Germany and not Britain or France in 1939, it is necessary to retrace the hectic developments in European affairs through the 1930s. When Adolf Hitler took power in Germany in 1933, he set out on an aggressive foreign policy of absorbing neighbouring territories. This was something Hitler had written about in his 1925 book Mein Kampf where he described the need for Lebensraum ('living space') for the German people, that is, new lands where they could prosper. This land would be sought for in the East. In addition, Hitler had long promised the German people that he would overturn the humiliating losses and restrictions imposed by the Treaty of Versailles that formally concluded the First World War (1914-18), which Germany had lost. The Saar region was taken back (1935), the Rhineland was remilitarised and Germany began to rearm (1936), then Austria was absorbed into Hitler's Third Reich (1938). In 1938, Hitler looked to Czechoslovakia.

The League of Nations (the forerunner of today's United Nations), which had been created after WWI to promote world peace, had proved itself to be inadequate when it came to aggressor states attacking weaker states. This weakness was particularly evident when Japan invaded Chinese Manchuria in 1931 and Italy invaded Abyssinia (Ethiopia) in 1935. Hitler's aggression also failed to rouse any meaningful response from the League. The USSR's leader Joseph Stalin must have watched all of these events with dismay as Germany expanded eastwards.

Hitler's calls for the Czech Sudetenland to become part of Germany sparked what has become known as the Czech Crisis. The USSR and France had signed a treaty in 1935 promising to protect Czechoslovakia from outside aggression, but the USSR was only bound to act if France mobilised first. Hitler thought it unlikely that France would act first, certainly not without Britain, which seemed intent on avoiding war at almost any cost. France's prime minister Edouard Daladier (1884-1970) was fully aware that his country was utterly unprepared for war.

Significantly, Stalin was not invited to the Munich Conference, held on 29 and 30 September 1938. The leaders of Britain, France, Italy, and Germany met in Munich to try to avoid a war over Hitler's ambitions regarding Czechoslovakia. The prime minister of Britain Neville Chamberlain (1869-1940) did not trust Stalin.

The government of Czechoslovakia was not invited to Munich either since the decision of all parties was to simply hand over the Sudetenland.

With the United States pursuing a policy of isolation, Britain and France were not prepared militarily for a war with Germany, and so they pursued a policy of appeasement, that is, giving in to Hitler's demands in the hope it would be his last. With hindsight, this policy was shown to be folly since Hitler was determined to take over the whole of Europe.

The Munich Agreement stipulated that Germany must promise to respect the sovereignty of the remainder of Czechoslovakia, but Hitler's occupation of the rest of Czechoslovakia in March 1939 made his intentions clear enough. Hitler began to talk next of the invasion of Poland in 1939. The hopes of Munich and appeasement were definitively shattered.

As one Soviet diplomat noted, the USSR's absence from Munich had meant not putting "our foot on a rotten plank" (Taylor, 237). It also seemed clear to Stalin in 1939 that if Germany were to attack the USSR, then neither the major powers nor the League of Nations would come to its aid. A deal of some sort with Germany now looked like the best prospect of keeping the USSR out of a war. Even if a pact with Hitler only proved to be a temporary respite, Stalin would gain valuable time for rearmament and he might negotiate some additional territory to create a buffer zone between the two states...

 

[TheGreatBarryB]

Any idea why Venezuelans get sent to El Salvador?
Thought it was back to where you came from.

Think the v’s confused the Trump acolytes.

Any proof they all these prisoners were gang members?

 

[Satan]

Think the v’s confused the Trump acolytes.

Any proof they all these prisoners were gang members?

They were shipped out despite the judges ruling not too . White house barbie is claiming they left before the written ruling and didnt need to follow oral ruling which was before the written ruling