Autopsy AFL 2024 Round 16 - Tigers v Blues Sun June 30th 3:20pm AEST (MCG)

[SuperSub17]

You need to read it again.

(a) The end of a quarter occurs when any field Umpire or emergency Umpire first hears the siren sounded by the Timekeepers to signal the end of a quarter. The field Umpire shall acknowledge the siren and bring play to an end by blowing a whistle and holding both arms above their head.

Literally says that the Umpire must hear the siren and then the play ends when they blow the whistle and hold both arms above his head. I have bolded it if it still confuses.

Nope.

“The end of a quarter occurs when any umpire first hears the siren”. The subsequent signals are only to tell everyone play is over. We literally see this all the time on line-ball calls (like this one) - where the ump takes a second or two to physically blow the whistle, they are still able to void kicks that occur in that time. Most famously in a draw between Hawthorn and GWS in 2017 when this was put under the microscope.

I’m an ex umpire - I know exactly what I’m talking about. This is a myth.

 

[Bollox]

Newman easily best on ground.
Cripps excellent.

 

[Cleansweep17]

Oh Dusty is playing? Thought he had retired already

All those medals are quite heavy.

Almost as heavy as Owies’s head

 

[YeoShuey]

Cerra fantastic. Glad that he is playing well.

 

[Chism]

All those medals are quite heavy.

So are hand guns so i am sure he is fine!

 

[SplintWhisky]

The quarter ends when the umpire hears the siren.

Thats when it ends. They then indicate it by holding their arms in the air.

Can people not read, **** me. They have to blow the whistle. The quarter ends when the Umpire hears the siren and brings play to an end by blowing a whistle and holding both arms above their head.

Seriously our schooling system can not be so shit that people are failing to comprehend a rather basic writing of a rule. You would all be correct in your comprehension but is is the phrase "Bring play to an end" that means that there is a scenario where all the umpires hear the siren and keep play live for 1 minute after it.

Hell here is ChatGPT interpreting the rule as well

Certainly! Here’s an interpretation of the rule:

1. End of Quarter Trigger: The quarter officially ends when a field Umpire or an emergency Umpire hears the siren that the Timekeepers sound to signal the end of the quarter.

2. Umpire's Acknowledgment: Upon hearing the siren, the field Umpire must acknowledge it.

3. Bringing Play to an End: The field Umpire then stops the game by blowing a whistle and raising both arms above their head.

In essence, the end of the quarter is marked by the Umpire's acknowledgment and physical signal after hearing the siren.

 

[Chism]

Can people not read, **** me. They have to blow the whistle. The quarter ends when the Umpire hears the siren and brings play to an end by blowing a whistle and holding both arms above their head.

Seriously our schooling system can not be so shit that people are failing to comprehend a rather basic writing of a rule. You would all be correct in your comprehension but is is the phrase "Bring play to an end" that means that there is a scenario where all the umpires hear the siren and keep play live for 1 minute after it.

Hell here is ChatGPT interpreting the rule as well

Certainly! Here’s an interpretation of the rule:

1. End of Quarter Trigger: The quarter officially ends when a field Umpire or an emergency Umpire hears the siren that the Timekeepers sound to signal the end of the quarter.

2. Umpire's Acknowledgment: Upon hearing the siren, the field Umpire must acknowledge it.

3. Bringing Play to an End: The field Umpire then stops the game by blowing a whistle and raising both arms above their head.

In essence, the end of the quarter is marked by the Umpire's acknowledgment and physical signal after hearing the siren.

You are wrong.

The 1980s called and want you back.

 

[SplintWhisky]

Nope.

“The end of a quarter occurs when any umpire first hears the siren”. The subsequent signals are only to tell everyone play is over. We literally see this all the time on line-ball calls (like this one) - where the ump takes a second or two to physically blow the whistle, they are still able to void kicks that occur in that time. Most famously in a draw between Hawthorn and GWS in 2017 when this was put under the microscope.

I’m an ex umpire - I know exactly what I’m talking about. This is a myth.

Taking you at face value as an umpire then this is a stupid rule and should be changed to be concrete.

This opens up a scenario for clear match fixing because it allows the AFL to muddy the waters on the end of play. The umpire can let the game go for a little before calling end to the play then if something major occurs the emergency umpire can just come out and say (or lie) "I heard it as soon as it went off".

 

[Randomizor]

Taking you at face value as an umpire then this is a stupid rule and should be changed to be concrete.

This opens up a scenario for clear match fixing because it allows the AFL to muddy the waters on the end of play. The umpire can let the game go for a little before calling end to the play then if something major occurs the emergency umpire can just come out and say (or lie) "I heard it as soon as it went off".

Not trying to be mean at all with this question but: Are you quite young?

Look up AFL Sirengate

 

[HairyO]

Can people not read, **** me. They have to blow the whistle. The quarter ends when the Umpire hears the siren and brings play to an end by blowing a whistle and holding both arms above their head.

Seriously our schooling system can not be so shit that people are failing to comprehend a rather basic writing of a rule. You would all be correct in your comprehension but is is the phrase "Bring play to an end" that means that there is a scenario where all the umpires hear the siren and keep play live for 1 minute after it.

Hell here is ChatGPT interpreting the rule as well

Certainly! Here’s an interpretation of the rule:

1. End of Quarter Trigger: The quarter officially ends when a field Umpire or an emergency Umpire hears the siren that the Timekeepers sound to signal the end of the quarter.

2. Umpire's Acknowledgment: Upon hearing the siren, the field Umpire must acknowledge it.

3. Bringing Play to an End: The field Umpire then stops the game by blowing a whistle and raising both arms above their head.

In essence, the end of the quarter is marked by the Umpire's acknowledgment and physical signal after hearing the siren.

Lota of anger but you are just wrong.

 

[SuperSub17]

Taking you at face value as an umpire then this is a stupid rule and should be changed to be concrete.

This opens up a scenario for clear match fixing because it allows the AFL to muddy the waters on the end of play. The umpire can let the game go for a little before calling end to the play then if something major occurs the emergency umpire can just come out and say (or lie) "I heard it as soon as it went off".

I agree it is outdated with current technology - it should be rewritten as “the quarter ends the moment the siren sounds”. This stuff would be easily reviewable at breaks and avoids all the grey areas. At the moment they’re unfortunately not able to review it.

I’m fairly sure I made a thread on it a few years ago after the umps got a couple wrong.

 

[YeoShuey]

Come on Blues. Big second half!

 

[SplintWhisky]

Not trying to be mean at all with this question but: Are you quite young?

Look up AFL Sirengate

I was alive for Sirengate. But there are practical issues if the quarter ends when an umpire hears the siren ending and doesnt signal it.

 

[dumb]

Tiggies are doing alright. We were sleepy inaccurate carlton. We have a few more gears to move through, a few digits to extract and some straighter kicking, hopefully.

 

[Rezza Tiger]

You are wrong.

The 1980s called and want you back.

The toilet called its running out of Chism pists

 

[Chism]

The toilet called its running out of Chism pists

Hilarious!

 

[Chism]

Tigers will win this and we are playing like 2 bob millionaires.

Deserve to lose.

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

Blues trying to be way too fancy for their ability. We're a contested team trying to play like the Swans and getting killed for it too.

 

[The King!]

I would like Carlton to lose to keep the 3 game buffer, I didn't realise the umpires felt the same .

Usually Richmond can't buy a free

 

[Randomizor]

Tigers will win this and we are playing like 2 bob millionaires.

Deserve to lose.

Think the Tigers will run out of legs

 

[The King!]

Carlton will pull away . But I'd sub Hollands if I was Voss

 

[Chism]

Lol Fantasia the potato!!!

 

[YeoShuey]

Lol Fantasia the potato!!!

Goal of the Year potential.

 

[Rod Stroker]

unless he's injured, why is Maurice not in this team? his huge forward pressure alone should have him in.

 

[Rod Stroker]

who gives a **** how many minutes Dusty has been on the bench??

more C7 cringe