Anthony Albanese - How long? -2-

[Gralin]

We're not counting any LGBTQI people this census again even though we promised and it's part of our platform because we're worried about it being divisive

Cops flack

We've dividied the LGBTQI questions into LGB (in) TQI (out) so as not to be divisive

(Waits to see if flack continues or stops)

 

[Gralin]

What about it makes it a gotcha? The then leader of the opposition and many members of the shadow cabinet couldn't wait to tell us the impact of the energy policies they were taking to the election, and the direct impact they would have on people's power bills. It's not trying to trick anybody, merely holding the government to account for statements they have made regarding their policies.

It turns out that was an absolute load of bollocks. Like with the assessment that inflation will be within the target range by the end of the year (mentioned as part of the Budget) it's an example of the now-PM saying dumb s*** that is unrealistic. It goes to his trustworthiness and competency.

I think there are many better and actual current examples but you do you

 

[Pakenhamsaint]

With every day, the Albanese Government further confirm they are terrified of being a one-term government. They are governing accordingly.

The irony is by behaving terrified they will end up being one.

 

[Gralin]

The irony is by behaving terrified they will end up being one.

I wonder if they wouldn't rather go back to opposition
Maybe the small target election policy was about not appearing attractive enough to vote for

 

[Gralin]

I also wonder if not actually standing for anything is an issue.

There's nothing there that makes me think they have a plan or a vision or a desire for change, nothing they want to achieve beyond a budget surplus it seems

 

[Saint]

I also wonder if not actually standing for anything is an issue.

There's nothing there that makes me think they have a plan or a vision or a desire for change, nothing they want to achieve beyond a budget surplus it seems

Busy being small target on everything so they can be small target on economics too? It's just an awful strategy.

I reckon the "T" is the most important part of the group to capture. It affects health care service and delivery the most, especially given the LGB community is already much better understood and accepted and will be facing far fewer barriers than a decade ago.

 

[JackOutback]

I don't care if it's backflip if it lands on the right decision, but you have to question his advisers if he's buckling initially on something that would have so little blowback on the party.

 

[Pakenhamsaint]

I also wonder if not actually standing for anything is an issue.

There's nothing there that makes me think they have a plan or a vision or a desire for change, nothing they want to achieve beyond a budget surplus it seems

You can only get away with not being the Liberal Party for so long.

 

[NSWCROW]

You just know 2gb listeners are seething today


* smirks *

 

[NSWCROW]

I don't care if it's backflip if it lands on the right decision, but you have to question his advisers if he's buckling initially on something that would have so little blowback on the party.

ptsd from the Gillard era where it didn't matter what she did, the newscorp-ch nein scum shat on it

 

[Kram]

You just know 2gb listeners are seething today


* smirks *

ptsd from the Gillard era where it didn't matter what she did, the newscorp-ch nein scum shat on it

You know you are so... one.. dimensional...

 

[Not Important]

I would suggest a likelihood of higher than zero than if the Albanese Government had brought such a vote, the Coalition would have split on the issue in much the same way they did in Senator Babet's abortion motion last week.

With every day, the Albanese Government further confirm they are terrified of being a one-term government. They are governing accordingly.

dutton seemed publicly confident after his flip-flop on the matter.

as i’ve written before, when he was leader of the house he was strong and stood for something. as p.m he’s trying to please everyone and in the process is pleasing no one. if someone with some persuasive power doesn’t get hold of him and tell him which side is up the divisive, trump clone and his incompetent minions are likely to win office by default.

 

[Gralin]

Do you reckon the source is Bill Shorten lol

 

[Not Important]

yep! another albo misstep.. appoints a well-known palestinian hater to the role of antisemite envoy but no appointment yet for an anti-islamophobia envoy. weak as piss.

 

[peetoo]

What are the benefits of LGBTQIA people having threes questions? Census questions are a balance between public good and privacy.

 

[Gralin]

What are the benefits of LGBTQIA people having threes questions? Census questions are a balance between public good and privacy.

I mean given they've been asking for these questions to be added for over a decade I'm not really sure why you're worried about privacy on their behalf

 

[peetoo]

I mean given they've been asking for these questions to be added for over a decade I'm not really sure why you're worried about privacy on their behalf

That is not what ai am asking. Nice deflect

 

[Gough]

What are the benefits of LGBTQIA people having threes questions? Census questions are a balance between public good and privacy.

You can't make funding decisions if you don't know how many people you're dealing with.

 

[Gralin]

That is not what ai am asking. Nice deflect

Standard non answer from you

What exactly do you think I'm deflecting from?

 

[peetoo]

You can't make funding decisions if you don't know how many people you're dealing with.

Funding for what?

 

[Gough]

Funding for what?

Government programs you'd assume, support, outreach, pretty basic stuff.

 

[Sydney Kicker]

What are the benefits of LGBTQIA people having threes questions? Census questions are a balance between public good and privacy.

There are three different proposed topics that overlap a bit but relate to diversity and all are relevant in defining key characteristics of the Australian population.

2026 Census topic review: Phase one directions

Overview of phase one of the 2026 Census topic consultation and directions for phase two consultation.

www.abs.gov.au

"The topics of Gender, Sexual orientation, and Variations of sex characteristics are being considered further in the topic review process. Evidence put forward in submissions, other feedback and parliamentary inquiry recommendations often covered these three topics together, in addition to changing the question on sex. The ABS has attempted to separate out the unique elements of each topic below, however, the ABS recognise the significant overlap in data needs."

"Gender is a social and cultural concept. It is about social and cultural differences in identity, expression and experience as a man, woman, or non-binary person."

"The sexual orientation question is asking about sexual identity and attraction. This is how a person thinks of their own sexuality, the term they identify with and their romantic or sexual attraction to others."

"Variations of sex characteristics refers to people with innate genetic, hormonal or physical sex characteristics that do not conform to medical norms for female or male bodies. It refers to a wide spectrum of variations to genitals, hormones, chromosomes and/or reproductive organs."

 

[tandino]

Landing such a spectacular own goal and ending up doing the very thing you’re trying to avoid – via something as mundane as the non-collection of statistical data – is quite the political achievement.

Labor’s spectacular census own goal hands Dutton a double victory | Karen Middleton

Government’s bungling has generated the damaging debate it wanted to avoid and shown it can be divisive too

www.theguardian.com

 

[Gralin]

Albo trying to pretend this never happened lol

 

[Dirty_banchez]

Albo needs to fire his advisers. Why allow a big song and dance over a few questions in the census? Just put them in and if the opposition complains tell them to get ****ed. Nobody cares about the questions, but people do care about leaders making poor decisions.

He's going to be the leader of a hung parliament next term and he only has himself to blame.