Ashes 2021/22

[Torz]

I would still pick him but just asking is he really a walk up start?

Yes, absolutely. Averages 55.

 

[Carbine Chaos]

Is Green a walk up start?

Yes.

Next.

 

[Coops93]

Is Green a walk up start? Form has not been flattering and his bowling last year looked hardly threatening.

Yes, he is.

His form has been good. Four 50s in his last 7 innings, with one of the 3 non-50s being 38 not out.

You'd like to see one or two of those turned in to centuries but there's nothing wrong with that formline.

His bowling has been ok without anything special. Lot's of 1/20-40 sort of range lately at an ok economy. Job done as an all-rounder imo.

 

[royboy2]

Or South African, New Zealander, Zimbabwean. Irish

 

[deanc]

I'm not sure Lyon has bowled much from around the wicket in the last 5 years. It was certainly a criticism back then but I reckon he bowled the vast majority of his deliveries over the wicket in the last series.

In the 4th innings at the GABBA for example he bowled his first 6 overs over the wicket and then he came around the wicket for 16 balls as Pujara was being allowed to pad the ball away outside off with his bat behind his pad before coming back over the wicket to end his spell.

He then comes back on in his 2nd spell and gets Gill in his first over from over the wicket. He then spends most of that spell over the wicket before Pant comes out where he doesn't really have a choice other than to go around the wicket to the left hander.

Lyon bowled a lot of quick low flat crap last series - I actually suspected some of his spells were mainly to boost the overs/session rate, nothing more..?

 

[RedVest4]

Labushange is miles off it IMO . Nothing about him looks like captain material at state or international level to me .
And we need him making runs , not thinking about other stuff .

Really strange call. He has been elite with the Bat ever since coming into the side (handy with the ball) and very good in the field. All his teammates seem to love him and he loves cricket and from all reports one of the best blokes getting round. He has captaincy written all over him.

As for scoring runs. Ponting, Clarke, Smith are all examples of players who have averaged significantly more as skipper.

 

[Seedsfan]

Really strange call. He has been elite with the Bat ever since coming into the side (handy with the ball) and very good in the field. All his teammates seem to love him and he loves cricket and from all reports one of the best blokes getting round. He has captaincy written all over him.

As for scoring runs. Ponting, Clarke, Smith are all examples of players who have averaged significantly more as skipper.

It’s more the maturity, I rate him as an all round cricketer and like his quirkiness but I don’t think his quirkiness holds him in good stead to be captain

 

[RedVest4]

It’s more the maturity, I rate him as an all round cricketer and like his quirkiness but I don’t think his quirkiness holds him in good stead to be captain

Not sure how you can judge someones maturity from watching on tv?

 

[The hands of stone]

Really strange call. He has been elite with the Bat ever since coming into the side (handy with the ball) and very good in the field. All his teammates seem to love him and he loves cricket and from all reports one of the best blokes getting round. He has captaincy written all over him.

As for scoring runs. Ponting, Clarke, Smith are all examples of players who have averaged significantly more as skipper.

Being popular and a good bloke doesnt mean your a great captain or even a good one .

The guys played less than 20 tests , let him bat and we can look at him in 2-3 years if need be .
Im not saying one day he wont captain either.

Ponting was a good captain who really led from the front of a very good side , Smith well we all know how that ended and Clarke was probably the best pure captain but very divisive amongst the players .

We need more than a he seems a good bloke who handles a bat pretty well captain.

 

[Seedsfan]

Being popular and a good bloke doesnt mean your a great captain or even a good one .

The guys played less than 20 tests , let him bat and we can look at him in 2-3 years if need be .
Im not saying one day he wont captain either.

Ponting was a good captain who really led from the front of a very good side , Smith well we all know how that ended and Clarke was probably the best pure captain but very divisive amongst the players .

We need more than a he seems a good bloke who handles a bat pretty well captain.

Replace Khawaja as Queensland captain with Labuschange see how he goes as a captain

 

[deanc]

It’s more the maturity, I rate him as an all round cricketer and like his quirkiness but I don’t think his quirkiness holds him in good stead to be captain

This - at the moment Marnus is still essentially a kid, learning to play at the highest level with men.

Right now, if you sent him to the shops to buy bread and milk, he'd probably return with a big bag of lollies and some ice-creams and think it's a great joke..!

His time may come, but also remember not everyone aspires to be a leader/captain. I could name 4 or 5 previous vice-captains that never wanted to be anything more...

 

[hawkman]

Plus if Marnus was captain the reviews would be gone within 2 overs

 

[hawkman]

Surely Richardson plays at the Gabba. At the very least it would be good to have someone in form with the red ball

 

[eddiesmith]

So the bloke who most people wanted to open who prefers to hide down the order couldn’t make runs on a pitch with any life in it.

 

[RedVest4]

H

Being popular and a good bloke doesnt mean your a great captain or even a good one .

The guys played less than 20 tests , let him bat and we can look at him in 2-3 years if need be .
Im not saying one day he wont captain either.

Ponting was a good captain who really led from the front of a very good side , Smith well we all know how that ended and Clarke was probably the best pure captain but very divisive amongst the players .

We need more than a he seems a good bloke who handles a bat pretty well captain.

He is easily the best available option for captain

 

[RedVest4]

So the bloke who most people wanted to open who prefers to hide down the order couldn’t make runs on a pitch with any life in it.

Which pitch is this?

 

[deanc]

Which pitch is this?

Unlikely to be this pitch in the infamous and only ten-over test match on record..!

 

[eddiesmith]

Which pitch is this?

One in Adelaide where Marnus ran off the ground on day 1 because it was too tough to bat on.

 

[MC Bad Genius]

So the bloke who most people wanted to open who prefers to hide down the order couldn’t make runs on a pitch with any life in it.

Who wanted Marnus to open?
Hiding down the order playing 12 of his 19 Tests at #3?
Couldn't make runs yet ended up scoring a century on the same pitch that was so poor both captains agreed to call off the day's play?

I'm not even sure why I bothered replying.

 

[eth-dog]

Who wanted Marnus to open?
Hiding down the order playing 12 of his 19 Tests at #3?
Couldn't make runs yet ended up scoring a century on the same pitch that was so poor both captains agreed to call off the day's play?

I'm not even sure why I bothered replying.

Because you got the wrong player. He's referring to Khawaja

 

[MC Bad Genius]

Because you got the wrong player. He's referring to Khawaja

But he posted this as well:

One in Adelaide where Marnus ran off the ground on day 1 because it was too tough to bat on.

I guess that was just a drive-by.

 

[eth-dog]

But he posted this as well:

I guess that was just a drive-by.

Nah that was a genuine thing. The pitch was dangerous.

 

[Voice of the G]

Khawaji and Head have done nothing in the current shield games.The chances of Maddinson playing in the test team surely are looking better,only needs runs in the trial matches perhaps.

 

[MC Bad Genius]

Nah that was a genuine thing. The pitch was dangerous.

Yeah, I know. But he was having a crack at Labuschagne about it. My mistake was not realising it was just a little shout-out in a wider insult to Khawaja.

 

[RedVest4]

One in Adelaide where Marnus ran off the ground on day 1 because it was too tough to bat on.

18 wickets for 400 runs on that pitch. Take out Marnus gritty ton and Streets knock and you are down to 18 wickets for 200 runs on a pitch that was clearly underprepared. Captains and match referees decided the pitch was dangerous not marnus