Autopsy Autopsy vs St Kilda - Round 11, 2021

[amaz199]

Too often we just flat out refuse to run and get some separation from our opponents. I'm not sure if it's laziness or we are just not fit enough but it happens.

Thomas was the only bloke tonight that showed what we should be doing with the ball. Much like Wells did for us. He kicked to space, cleverly found holes where the Saints setup for a Larkey contest. He will become elite.

Some of our players just have really bad footy IQ. And this game plan requires a lot of experience so in saying that, not much can really be done except to flip the game plan on its head and start again. Which won't happen.

 

[DesertRoo]

Parts of Ziebell's game in the backline I really like. He has a big, penetrating kick for kicking out and providing rebound. Actually hits targets too.

But what drives me ******* mad is his inability to know "when to go". Even when he's completely out of position and another defender is set up to mark, he will fly on in anyway. He doesn't seem to know what the hell a spoil is either.

if Robbie Tarrant can instruct Maj when to go and when to stay. I’m sure his addition into the backline will help Ziebell immensely..

 

[north_lad]

Too often we just flat out refuse to run and get some separation from our opponents. I'm not sure if it's laziness or we are just not fit enough but it happens.

Thomas was the only bloke tonight that showed what we should be doing with the ball. Much like Wells did for us. He kicked to space, cleverly found holes where the Saints setup for a Larkey contest. He will become elite.

Some of our players just have really bad footy IQ. And this game plan requires a lot of experience so in saying that, not much can really be done except to flip the game plan on its head and start again. Which won't happen.

Good lord did this stick out today. **** me

 

[north_lad]

if Robbie Tarrant can instruct Maj when to go and when to stay. I’m sure his addition into the backline will help Ziebell immensely..

Tarrant has been my favourite North player for some time. I can't wait to see him back out there.

 

[Only Forwards]

if Robbie Tarrant can instruct Maj when to go and when to stay. I’m sure his addition into the backline will help Ziebell immensely..

IMO we have suffered all over the ground from a lack of leadership.

Who is our leader in the forward line?

The one of the 23 year old that have struggled to get a kick or the plder bloke who has struggled to even be on the park?

Or Sugar who hasn't played there all year?

 

[Divado]

Josh Mahony? I hope he can play better than Jack Mahony


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I'll call him by his real name when he gets better

 

[DesertRoo]

Tarrant has been my favourite North player for some time. I can't wait to see him back out there.

It’s not that he just doesn’t lose a contest, hes the definition of a general back there. Irreplaceable.

 

[PMG]

Yeh? And bring in who? You drop kick

Be nice
And the answer is the others.

 

[R00StaR]

I go all right on the pool table cleaning up my balls once the opposition has sunk the black and put the cue back in the rack.

We dont need to know about your sex life

 

[RossHenshaw]

Thats ridiculous. You cant just keep loading up with 18 yo. Dumont has bern pretty good for a few years, garner has bern good last 3 weeks and structurally critical. I have wanted atley to work so badly. Hes cooked. No point any more. .

Surely our back line will look like ;
LMac BMac Corr
Hall Taz JZ
(depth : Bonar & Perez)
No more room for Josh Walker & Atley

 

[Swallow_Wood]

Fair few shitmen running around for us atm.

 

[JHF1870]

Foxtel: Looks like a time loop.

 

[The Anvil]

I have no idea why people are still hanging onto the Kelly logic. He burned us, twice. fu** him. The dog

There’s no romance in it for me, watching him play today though and knowing the contract millstone on the neck of GWS provides an opportunity to get a very good player in the door.


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[groo]

It’s not that he just doesn’t lose a contest, hes the definition of a general back there. Irreplaceable.

I don’t think he ever got to be the General. McMillan kept taking over, much to the detriment of our backline.

 

[DesertRoo]

IMO we have suffered all over the ground from a lack of leadership.

Who is our leader in the forward line?

The one of the 23 year old that have struggled to get a kick or the plder bloke who has struggled to even be on the park?

Or Sugar who hasn't played there all year?

leaders and pressure, we don’t have any.
But I don’t think intent is the problem the guys just don’t have the legs to pressure for large periods of time together.
Jed back and flying in the midfield will be infectious also..

 

[deano28]

It's a difficult task.

It really is .

 

[DuckYeah]

Be nice
And the answer is the others.

Who? Name them.. also, I am being nice.

Edit: there is no one. You are as much a spud as the facebook ****head filling your head with tripe.

brainworms

 

[The Anvil]

IMO we have suffered all over the ground from a lack of leadership.

Who is our leader in the forward line?

The one of the 23 year old that have struggled to get a kick or the plder bloke who has struggled to even be on the park?

Or Sugar who hasn't played there all year?

I’d assume either Tarrant or Walker moved forward from the next game.


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[hcd199]

Some bland competence late gave what was arguably our worst showing of the year a flatteringly small margin - the reality is that the Saints have been poor most of the season and failed to capitalise on many of the opportunities we provided them, through seriously terrible decision-making and skill execution, compounded by a seeming lack of willingness to actually provide the man with the ball suitable options to pass to. How often were we passing backwards so we could get a series of chip kicks 30m behind where we initially got hold of the ball, only to either kick it back to a 50/50 contest where we obtained the ball, or pass it sideways or backwards directly to a Saints player? Dreadful stuff.

It was very telling, on the few occasions that we put together a decent passage of play and scored from it, just how easily the Saints could find a forward option, or pass it around with ease while we jogged in no man's land behind or around them. Not that all of our players were so lacking in intensity, but in a team sport, it only takes one player's failure to make the task that much harder for everyone else, and fair to say we had more than a few who didn't do enough this evening. Hopefully the bye gives us the time we need to fix some of the glaring issues up...

 

[hundini]

Pretty poor performance all up. The last quarter flattered us

1. Josh Mahoney: Poor game. Needs to play VFl to get his confidence up. Not a lost cause as it would be hard to play half forward in this forward set up

5. Curtis Taylor: some shocking decisions to kick into the middle to a contest. Also dropped a few he should have taking. Loved his over the head handball on the first quarter. Another who would benefit from VFL time but no one is there to replace really

6. Garner. Work hard without reward. Hope his body holds up because he is a serious player

7. Zieball. He is not a defender. Ideally he would be the 6th man in the back 6. Tarrant, Bonar Core would free him up a bit more. Kicked 2 nice goals

8. B.Scott. Blanketed Hill. Happy for him to play a run with role for a year or 2. Learning those running patterns of good outside players is good for his development

9. LDU Average game, our mids got belted for the first half but he needs to learn how to impose himself in the contest when the chips are down

10. Cunners. Dunstan was all over him like a cheap suit. Toiled hard. Some great fend offs and an elite handball to Zeebs with his left hand mind you

12 Simpkin. His clanger in the first quarter and ball watching after was very poor. Was ok

14. Dumont Didn't notice too much from him

17. Young. Some serious question marks on his decision making defensively (zoning off etc) also prone to a brain fade or 2 with ball in hand. Has courage and dash but not sure that makes up for it. Fringe player at best

18 Atley Some rookie moments from a veteran. Only good when running straight and someone leading straight at him

19 Walker. Taz in for him next game please


20 Larkey. One of his better games. Needs a partner in crime inside 50. Will do some damage when the ball gets in quicker to him


22 Goldy. Average game. Ryder beat him in the ruck and was ineffectual around the ground

23 McKay. Brilliant again. An amazing competitor who is very rarely beaten. Gonna be a star

24 Powell. Very quick hands and found it 18 times but some uncharacteristic poor handballs in the contest.

26. Thomas. Decent game. I think his role is a half forward who can swing through the midfield then go deep forward. Doesn't win enough of it to be a permanent mid IMO

28. Turner. Absolute pest to his opponent. Definitely a role for him shuting down dangerous small forwards.

31. Menadue. Meh

42. Campbell. Has a go but a square peg in a CHF shaped hole

43. Hall. Was alright again but some poor moments dropping 2 absolute sitters

44. Zuhaar. Was really good. Seems to have turned the corner mentally. Works himself into the game
Bring on 2022. If our minds are dominating the clearances we look so weak defensive. With a fully fit back 6 that should change a bit

I worry about the game plan of playing the corridor when there is no one demanding the ball across half forward (except Zurhaar). Teams are invited that inside kick and gambling to intercept, it's very predictable.

I'd like to see a fully fit squad playing before judging but I've got some question marks on the game plan. I think the problem is personnel mainly

Anyway go Roos

Coach said at half time he asked his players to improve tackling and disposal (kicking) efficiency.
By game’s end Mahony led effective tackles.

 

[DuckYeah]

I’d assume either Tarrant or Walker moved forward from the next game.


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Walker shouldnt get a game once Tarrant comes back. Cant play him forward. He spoils his team mates. Larkey would have a few more to his tally if it werent for JW

 

[archereleven]

Pretty poor performance all up. The last quarter flattered us

1. Josh Mahoney: Poor game. Needs to play VFl to get his confidence up. Not a lost cause as it would be hard to play half forward in this forward set up

5. Curtis Taylor: some shocking decisions to kick into the middle to a contest. Also dropped a few he should have taking. Loved his over the head handball on the first quarter. Another who would benefit from VFL time but no one is there to replace really

6. Garner. Work hard without reward. Hope his body holds up because he is a serious player

7. Zieball. He is not a defender. Ideally he would be the 6th man in the back 6. Tarrant, Bonar Core would free him up a bit more. Kicked 2 nice goals

8. B.Scott. Blanketed Hill. Happy for him to play a run with role for a year or 2. Learning those running patterns of good outside players is good for his development

9. LDU Average game, our mids got belted for the first half but he needs to learn how to impose himself in the contest when the chips are down

10. Cunners. Dunstan was all over him like a cheap suit. Toiled hard. Some great fend offs and an elite handball to Zeebs with his left hand mind you

12 Simpkin. His clanger in the first quarter and ball watching after was very poor. Was ok

14. Dumont Didn't notice too much from him

17. Young. Some serious question marks on his decision making defensively (zoning off etc) also prone to a brain fade or 2 with ball in hand. Has courage and dash but not sure that makes up for it. Fringe player at best

18 Atley Some rookie moments from a veteran. Only good when running straight and someone leading straight at him

19 Walker. Taz in for him next game please


20 Larkey. One of his better games. Needs a partner in crime inside 50. Will do some damage when the ball gets in quicker to him


22 Goldy. Average game. Ryder beat him in the ruck and was ineffectual around the ground

23 McKay. Brilliant again. An amazing competitor who is very rarely beaten. Gonna be a star

24 Powell. Very quick hands and found it 18 times but some uncharacteristic poor handballs in the contest.

26. Thomas. Decent game. I think his role is a half forward who can swing through the midfield then go deep forward. Doesn't win enough of it to be a permanent mid IMO

28. Turner. Absolute pest to his opponent. Definitely a role for him shuting down dangerous small forwards.

31. Menadue. Meh

42. Campbell. Has a go but a square peg in a CHF shaped hole

43. Hall. Was alright again but some poor moments dropping 2 absolute sitters

44. Zuhaar. Was really good. Seems to have turned the corner mentally. Works himself into the game
Bring on 2022. If our minds are dominating the clearances we look so weak defensive. With a fully fit back 6 that should change a bit

I worry about the game plan of playing the corridor when there is no one demanding the ball across half forward (except Zurhaar). Teams are invited that inside kick and gambling to intercept, it's very predictable.

I'd like to see a fully fit squad playing before judging but I've got some question marks on the game plan. I think the problem is personnel mainly

Anyway go Roos

Cunners uses his left hand to handball for the majority. Good with both, but that's how he rolls.

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[Orange Peanut]

A couple of my absolute favourite youngsters need to see their names in the OUT (Omitted) column I reckon.

 

[DarwinRoo]

Ryder and Goldy broke even. The only thing Ryder did well was jump and hold Goldy and get an armchair ride from the umps.

 

[giantroo]