Confirmed Bailey Smith: 4-way trade: B. Smith (WB) & pick 45 to Geel / pick 38 to Carl / Macrae (WB) to StK / pick 17 & Kennedy (Carl) to WB

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DeKoning would have replaced Jones in his natural position. Not the ruck where Chris Scott is determined to play him out of position.

The dogs talls aren't lumbering anyway.

Plenty of smalls in the team and seems like they're a good chance of taking Clohesy off Geelong too
Got a sneaky feeling he likes the ruck, as a defender he looks a little disinterested, he was more energetic in the ruck and being able to move around ground.
 
Father Sons and Academy blokes aren’t accessible to the rest of the Draft. You may as well just wipe them off the Draft board.

Teams will match anything for those guys, especially now the JUH Rule has been scrapped.

Pick 15 is still the 15th best available player whether it’s at 15 or 21.

You’re not drafting Ashcroft, Kako, Lombard, Welsh, Campo brothers etc.
No point adding them into the Draft pool.
They are in the draft pool. The other club is not obliged to match the bid eg. Josh Dunkley
 
They are in the draft pool. The other club is not obliged to match the bid eg. Josh Dunkley

Yes and I get that, hence why I said Cats should look to move up to (post bids) 11-14 range to help satisfy the Dogs and I’ve maintained that all the way through.

Im just saying that all those guys are going to be bid matched so it’s pointless bringing them up.
Not concerned in the slightest that anyone I listed would not be matched.

Ashcroft, Kako, Lombard, Welsh, Campo bros.
Do we think we will see any of them not making it to their destination?
 
Father Sons and Academy blokes aren’t accessible to the rest of the Draft. You may as well just wipe them off the Draft board.

Teams will match anything for those guys, especially now the JUH Rule has been scrapped.

Pick 15 is still the 15th best available player whether it’s at 15 or 21.

You’re not drafting Ashcroft, Kako, Lombard, Welsh, Campo brothers etc.
No point adding them into the Draft pool.

It’s the 15th best player in the subset of the open pool. But it’s still only getting the 20th best player in the draft. That’s the actual value of the pick.
 
It’s the 15th best player in the subset of the open pool. But it’s still only getting the 20th best player in the draft. That’s the actual value of the pick.

Yeah that was my point, in the open pool of players actually available it's still 15th best and i highly doubt any of the F/S or academy blokes aren't being bid matched.

But i also understand the pick will be pushed back hence why i reckon Cats trade up to assist. I haven't change my tune on that.
 
Geelong are a nightmare to deal with. They’re like that mate at the pub who always seems to conveniently disappear whenever it’s their turn to shout, or they’ll haggle over paying full price at a Thrift Shop while wearing a diamond encrusted Rolex.

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Geelong are a nightmare to deal with. They’re like that mate at the pub who always seems to conveniently disappear whenever it’s their turn to shout, or they’ll haggle over paying full price at a Thrift Shop while wearing a diamond encrusted Rolex.

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Us paying overs for Smith won't undo the Esava trade, dude.
 
Glancing at the Dogs board, a lot them don't actually seem to want Sam De Koning because he's a particular need.

Their primary motivation seems to be some sort of misguided 'payback' against Geelong - "you stole one of ours so we'll steal one of yours".
 
Geelong are a nightmare to deal with. They’re like that mate at the pub who always seems to conveniently disappear whenever it’s their turn to shout, or they’ll haggle over paying full price at a Thrift Shop while wearing a diamond encrusted Rolex.

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Geelong is historically very easy to deal with. I guess Mackie just saw an easy kill with Ports amateur list management team and decided he could extract a little more currency. Thanks for Lawson Humphries :)
 
Glancing at the Dogs board, a lot them don't actually seem to want Sam De Koning because he's a particular need.

Their primary motivation seems to be some sort of misguided 'payback' against Geelong - "you stole one of ours so we'll steal one of yours".
De Koning is definitely a need but not for 2025. He’d be the perfect ready made Liam Jones replacement (who is probably close to his final year).

Busslinger & O’Donnell are good prospects but both I feel like both will be occupying the 2nd & 3rd defender posts long term.
 
Geelong are a nightmare to deal with. They’re like that mate at the pub who always seems to conveniently disappear whenever it’s their turn to shout, or they’ll haggle over paying full price at a Thrift Shop while wearing a diamond encrusted Rolex.

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Historically we've paid up many many many many times under Wells.
Mackie takes over and starts pushing back and people don't like it.

Damned if you do, damned if you don't

Also will be very interesting to see how Cripps and Davies deal with this upcoming offseason.

Houston trade request, Lukosius deal, Perryman, Cumming, Richards.
Will be very very intrigued if they are planning to roll over for all those clubs or if they will be such evil blokes and try and get the most out of each deal while not paying very much...
 
Geelong are a nightmare to deal with. They’re like that mate at the pub who always seems to conveniently disappear whenever it’s their turn to shout, or they’ll haggle over paying full price at a Thrift Shop while wearing a diamond encrusted Rolex.

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if you refering to the ratugalea trade, it took a while cause geelong want some late picks that port werent going to use. so who was hard to deal with? a club that held onto picks that they werent going to use or the club that want the picks the other club werent using?
 
I might be underselling it a bit, but knowing Geelong, they’ll probably send Mackie into the Smith negotiations in a dishevelled state & stinking of his own feces. He’ll then rub an onion in his eyes & begin to tearfully explain that despite their on-field successes, the club is in fact on its knees & at risk of handing back its license.

He’ll then proceed to show the Dogs an edited highlights package of every turnover Bailey has committed in his AFL career & insist they’re actually doing them a favour by offering a late 4th rounder, while demanding a future 3rd back.
 
I might be underselling it a bit, but knowing Geelong, they’ll probably send Mackie into the Smith negotiations in a dishevelled state & stinking of his own feces. He’ll then rub an onion in his eyes & begin to tearfully explain that despite their on-field successes, the club is in fact on its knees & at risk of handing back its license.

He’ll then proceed to show the Dogs an edited highlights package of every turnover Bailey has committed in his AFL career & insist they’re actually doing them a favour by offering a late 4th rounder, while demanding a future 3rd back.

Sounds like someone's got buyer's remorse about Ratugolea...
 
Geelong is historically very easy to deal with. I guess Mackie just saw an easy kill with Ports amateur list management team and decided he could extract a little more currency. Thanks for Lawson Humphries :)

Going to be a shock dealing with Sam Power then
 
I might be underselling it a bit, but knowing Geelong, they’ll probably send Mackie into the Smith negotiations in a dishevelled state & stinking of his own feces. He’ll then rub an onion in his eyes & begin to tearfully explain that despite their on-field successes, the club is in fact on its knees & at risk of handing back its license.

He’ll then proceed to show the Dogs an edited highlights package of every turnover Bailey has committed in his AFL career & insist they’re actually doing them a favour by offering a late 4th rounder, while demanding a future 3rd back.
The Port Power bloke being unwilling to part with pick 375 until the last few minutes of trade week was the real pisser in all of the Esava shenanigans. Dare I say that pick turning into Lawson Humphries was a bit of karmic retribution.
 

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Confirmed Bailey Smith: 4-way trade: B. Smith (WB) & pick 45 to Geel / pick 38 to Carl / Macrae (WB) to StK / pick 17 & Kennedy (Carl) to WB

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