Confirmed Bailey Smith: 4-way trade: B. Smith (WB) & pick 45 to Geel / pick 38 to Carl / Macrae (WB) to StK / pick 17 & Kennedy (Carl) to WB

[Wojcinski]

Have a look at your two idiotic replies.

You know they are idiotic but you don’t like getting called out on it.

Happy to elaborate if you genuinely need more assistance.

Now I'm an idiot because you think pick 90 is the same as pick 10.

Have we found Sam Power's BF account?

 

[Pencil case]

I’m tired boss

 

[adogsfan5]

Now I'm an idiot because you think pick 90 is the same as pick 10.

Have we found Sam Power's BF account?

No I get the point, you said it yourself. If Geelong can dig their heels in then why can't the Dogs? .

One moment you understand what I’m saying, and then you don’t. It’s some of the more bizarre posting.

Maybe I’ll go a different route. I’ll ask you a question. Were you happy that Mackie dug his heels in until the last minute and got the extra two picks he and the club wanted? (Ended up being 58 and 64 and one of them ended up being Lawson Humphries.)

Or should he have just got it done nice and early for pick 24, which is what ports initial offer was?

 

[TylerDurden]

Sam Power

Sam Power

Age

41

Ht

190cm

Wt

82kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.7

4star

K

7.8

3star

HB

6.9

4star

M

4.2

4star

T

2.0

4star

No current season stats available

D

7.8

2star

K

3.8

2star

HB

4.0

3star

M

1.8

2star

T

1.6

4star

to make a name for himself come Wed night I reckon.

 

[Pencil case]

 

[Hamingja]

Sam Power to make a name for himself come Wed night I reckon.

Is 17 plus steak knives going to be considered a win for Sammy boy? Or is it only a pass mark if they get a top 10 pick?

 

[adogsfan5]

No chance. We are clearly seeking something in the lower teens.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

Gullan's previously wrote (at least) a couple of books about Geelong's premiership wins, this seems to be written coming from our club's view as well. Framed that the Dogs are unreasonably asking for a pick we simply aren't able to obtain and that our offer is a fair one with the classic threat that we'll take him with our first if they don't agree to a trade and they get nothing.

Gullan does Geelong media because he's based there but ironically he's a dogs fan. Spoke about it numerous times on the podcast he did with Lingy. He knows the cats list inside out because it's his job.

Here's an article he wrote in 2016 about what it's like being a dogs fan

https://archive.vn/mbI2A

Don't think he's pushing any agenda either way

 

[Heeney2Franklin]

Tbh its perfectly acceptable to ask for a top 10 pick Bailey Smith is worth 2x firsts fully fit.

Geelong are just masterful at acquiring players for a fraction of their cost its also not the Bulldogs problem that Geelong dont have a top 10 pick its up to the buyer to satisfy the seller.

 

[Hamingja]

Tbh its perfectly acceptable to ask for a top 10 pick Bailey Smith is worth 2x firsts fully fit.

Geelong are just masterful at acquiring players for a fraction of their cost its also not the Bulldogs problem that Geelong dont have a top 10 pick its up to the buyer to satisfy the seller.

Every trade ever goes this way. Sammy will get pick 17 and maybe a small pick swap in his favour if the Mack is feeling generous and Sammy will love it.

 

[Wojcinski]

One moment you understand what I’m saying, and then you don’t. It’s some of the more bizarre posting.

Maybe I’ll go a different route. I’ll ask you a question. Were you happy that Mackie dug his heels in until the last minute and got the extra two picks he and the club wanted? (Ended up being 58 and 64 and one of them ended up being Lawson Humphries.)

Or should he have just got it done nice and early for pick 24, which is what ports initial offer was?

At the time I thought it was a bit silly but after watching Humphries become a top 5 player 21 and under it makes sense now. If you guys are so excited by the prospect of a 5th round pick though why do you keep banging on about a top 10 pick?

 

[Mr north man]

Now I'm an idiot because you think pick 90 is the same as pick 10.

Have we found Sam Power's BF account?

Recon there’s a way for you to get smith

 

[adogsfan5]

At the time I thought it was a bit silly but after watching Humphries become a top 5 player 21 and under it makes sense now. If you guys are so excited by the prospect of a 5th round pick though why do you keep banging on about a top 10 pick?

It’s not about the specific pick or round in the draft mate. It’s about getting the value that you believe is fair for a player that is requesting a trade out. The notion that we have absolutely no power and should just cop what we’re offered, is nonsense, hence my example about the Esava trade.

You guys wanted to maximise that deal to ensure it was fair for you guys, so why can’t Sam Power do the same? The point was around digging heels and getting what that club believes is fair or “fairer” value.

Doesn’t mean we’re going to get a top 10 pick, but Power is clearly seeking something higher than pick 17. Good list managers dig their heels in (Mackie and Power are two of them).

 

[Pencil case]

No chance. We are clearly seeking something in the lower teens.

Yup, Geelong will have to trade up I can guarantee it. I wonder which third club will be involved? Maybe Bombers.

 

[adogsfan5]

Yup, Geelong will have to trade up I can guarantee it. I wonder which third club will be involved? Maybe Bombers.

Hopefully suns 13.

 

[Pencil case]

At the time I thought it was a bit silly but after watching Humphries become a top 5 player 21 and under it makes sense now.

This is a stretch of colossal magnitude

 

[Mr north man]

Recon there’s a way for you to get smith

Recon there’s a way for you to get Smith approach North for pick 2 offer North a De Konning a Key Backman plus either Mires or Dempsey both small forwards and North hand over a future 2nd pick

 

[CatToTheFuture]

As above- think harder.

What an i supposed to think about?

 

[CatToTheFuture]

Recon there’s a way for you to get Smith approach North for pick 2 offer North a De Konning a Key Backman plus either Mires or Dempsey both small forwards and North hand over a future 2nd pick

Reckon they'll politely decline that one thanks mate

 

[CatToTheFuture]

No chance. We are clearly seeking something in the lower teens.

Quite likely i just don't know how you get it

 

[CatToTheFuture]

Hopefully suns 13.

We've have nothing to trade that would land it

 

[Heeney2Franklin]

We've have nothing to trade that would land it

Not the Bulldogs fault

 

[Mr north man]

Reckon they'll politely decline that one thanks mate

We’ll think about as your club will need another club to help you get him and you haven’t got too many clubs that are your friends.
He could end up at Richmond,Hawthorn or even interstate

 

[adogsfan5]

We've have nothing to trade that would land it

Thankfully this answer wouldn’t get used during the 10 days.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

The fact your list manager dug his heels in for so long for two shithouse late picks, basically sums up my point. Hes a stubborn prick. Which Sam Power should be also.

Power values him as top 10. Mackie at 17.

Good, meet halfway and get it done.

The point still stands, if you guys can be stubborn and drag your heels, then so can we.

The halfway is the F2 which will get thrown in.

The top 10 pick is not a reality in the real world.