Confirmed Bailey Smith: 4-way trade: B. Smith (WB) & pick 45 to Geel / pick 38 to Carl / Macrae (WB) to StK / pick 17 & Kennedy (Carl) to WB

[Pure_Ownage]

Hopefully suns 13.

That's going to Melbourne.

 

[Pencil case]

Not the Bulldogs fault

This is what Cats fans can’t wrap their head around.

 

[Ross]

Gullan does Geelong media because he's based there but ironically he's a dogs fan. Spoke about it numerous times on the podcast he did with Lingy. He knows the cats list inside out because it's his job.

Here's an article he wrote in 2016 about what it's like being a dogs fan

https://archive.vn/mbI2A

Don't think he's pushing any agenda either way

Interesting, thanks. I'd have never guessed that but I haven't read the Herald Sun in forever and only knew of him for his Geelong premiership books. I'm pretty sure I have the 2007 and 2022 books lying around but I never got around to reading either of them.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

Not the Bulldogs fault

No but it is a shared problem

 

[Heeney2Franklin]

This is what Cats fans can’t wrap their head around.

I mean they headhunted the guy for 18 months its a bit embarrassing to say well shit to bad we cant be arsed trying to find something better.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

We’ll think about as your club will need another club to help you get him and you haven’t got too many clubs that are your friends.
He could end up at Richmond,Hawthorn or even interstate

Yeah nah, think we'll be fine.

 

[supahoops]

Tbh its perfectly acceptable to ask for a top 10 pick Bailey Smith is worth 2x firsts fully fit.

Geelong are just masterful at acquiring players for a fraction of their cost its also not the Bulldogs problem that Geelong dont have a top 10 pick its up to the buyer to satisfy the seller.

Not Geelongs problem Dogs let him run down his contract, played him out of position, only offered 2 years allegedly - the fact Geelong don’t have a top 10 pick sounds more like a you problem than an us problem and expect it to play out as such.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

I mean they headhunted the guy for 18 months its a bit embarrassing to say well shit to bad we cant be arsed trying to find something better.

In what version of reality is he going to the draft?

 

[Heeney2Franklin]

In what version of reality is he going to the draft?

None a deal will get done this is just discussion around his value.

 

[STPer18]

This bloke is the certified new Dodds. BAZooka might be the next in a long line of Geelong mature aged draftees to flourish. Grab him in the draft and yabba dabba doo!

 

[adogsfan5]

Not Geelongs problem Dogs let him run down his contract, played him out of position, only offered 2 years allegedly - the fact Geelong don’t have a top 10 pick sounds more like a you problem than an us problem and expect it to play out as such.

He played the 2021 finals series (arguably his best footy) mainly as a half forward / 5th on baller with lower game time on ball than 3-4 other dogs midfielders. This is a lazy statement made by too many people making assumptions.

 

[Art Vandelay_]

This bloke is the certified new Dodds. BAZooka might be the next in a long line of Geelong mature aged draftees to flourish. Grab him in the draft and yabba dabba doo!

Poor lad been played out of position. Now held captive by Sam 'home brand Mackdog' Power.
#FreeBazlenka

 

[Dirty_banchez]

Why did Smith fall out of favour with the Dogs?

 

[adogsfan5]

Why did Smith fall out of favour with the Dogs?

He said he outgrew the club.

 

[Kobe Gryant]

Sam Power to make a name for himself come Wed night I reckon.

 

[Heeney2Franklin]

He said he outgrew the club.

Such a odd take does he mean his brand?

 

[Northernsoul74]

We've have nothing to trade that would land it

This is a very simple but important point and gets to the crux of how broken the system is. Should a club be allowed to “trade” for a player they can’t “afford”. Surely some value has to be placed on out of contract players who haven’t reached FA. For another thread though as this isn’t unique to Geelong.

 

[Pencil case]

Why did Smith fall out of favour with the Dogs?

Sick of being 6th banana in a generational midfield

 

[Bulldogs85]

Such an odd take does he mean his brand?

Smith didn’t get into it just said he outgrew the club

 

[CatToTheFuture]

None a deal will get done this is just discussion around his value.

My opinion is this trade plays out very, very similar to Jordan Clark at a higher value.

Promising young first round pick. Pushed to the wing from his preferred position. Injury hiccup. Percieved falling out with the coaches though this is contested (rumour Scarlett basically sacked over it).

Cats asked for freos pick 8 which was rejected the same way we'll not go out and get a top 10. Went to the last minute Freo gave up what became 21, we gave them a third and a they gave back a 4th.

I think the only difference is that the cats give a pick that becomes 19 and gives up the current 38 with some who cares at the end.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

He played the 2021 finals series (arguably his best footy) mainly as a half forward / 5th on baller with lower game time on ball than 3-4 other dogs midfielders. This is a lazy statement made by too many people making assumptions.

It kind of runs both ways that because what the Cats are looking to do is bring him into the midfield. Feels like it could run into a Devon Smith trade scenario real quick where he was a HFF who wanted to play midfield.

He's played out of the position he wants to play, and there's risk inherent in that.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

Such a odd take does he mean his brand?

I think it would be too brand damaging for him to come out and say he outgrew the half forward line and doesn't fit the dogs midfield.

Re-read his statement and just find/replace "club" with "HFF" and its more accurate

 

[CatToTheFuture]

This is a very simple but important point and gets to the crux of how broken the system is. Should a club be allowed to “trade” for a player they can’t “afford”. Surely some value has to be placed on out of contract players who haven’t reached FA. For another thread though as this isn’t unique to Geelong.

Yeah this is 100% the issue. Power has now lurched hard towards favouring the player in our current system. Certainly North's inability to land experienced players in trade made them latch onto trades like Polec and drove them into the ground.

I don't think this affects the dogs as much as some of their fans think too. Yes you lost Dunkley on terms you didn't quite like but you also bent Collingwood so far over a barrel for Treloar they were considering legal action on his contract terms.

 

[Dewwwww]

About time Geelong pay a fair price for a trade. Sick of them getting players like Henry in for unders.

 

[supahoops]

About time Geelong pay a fair price for a trade. Sick of them getting players like Henry in for unders.

Oh, well determine what’s fair, then pay it, that ok with y’all?