Confirmed Bailey Smith: 4-way trade: B. Smith (WB) & pick 45 to Geel / pick 38 to Carl / Macrae (WB) to StK / pick 17 & Kennedy (Carl) to WB

[Pistol Night]

Sure we can. We won't have to as Sammy Power is just talking tough before he bends over on Wednesday night. He was last seen at Coles stocking up on lube.

Getting reamed and supplying the lube. What a team player

 

[Lunchlady Doris]

Sick of being 6th banana in a generational midfield

We've been told he is one of the Dogs best players? How can this be?

 

[CatToTheFuture]

But then there's no other conclusion to draw from what you said other than that the system is flawed/unfair for the purposes of a collective set of rules that consistently apply to achieve equalisation, and/or the fact that Geelong are engaging in tampering.

The first part is true not the second

 

[Lunchlady Doris]

There's no other answer to this other than some vague belief that Bailey Smith is morally entitled to smoothlesly get to the club of his desire, despite not being a free agent.

Even though Geelong fans aren't calling for the draft to be abolished. You think they would because human rights and freedom of movement and AFLPA and all that.

For a draft and the subsequent principle of equalisation to have any meaning, a player who is very good, a former top 10 pick and living up to that top 10 pick, should have some difficulty moving to a better club without adequate cost for the aquriting club and compensation for the losing club. Otherwise, what's the point of any club ever successfully drafting and developing talent at all if there's no barriers for that player leaving?

You don't hear Geelong people talking about that.

Keep the player happy, and keep him contracted.

Now that's no guarantee, but it gives you a bit more hand in negotiations.

What are you going to do? Withdraw from the competition?

 

[MisterMarcus]

I always felt the Doggies and 'neutral' fans on here were just trolling Geelong and taking the piss for most of this thread with all the conspiracy nonsense and demands.

But after the last week, I think they might actually be serious.

 

[adogsfan5]

I always felt the Doggies and 'neutral' fans on here were just trolling Geelong and taking the piss for most of this thread with all the conspiracy nonsense and demands.

But after the last week, I think they might actually be serious.

It works both ways mate. One of the funniest ones so far has been “we’d like to get a better pick than 17, but we just can’t”.

The AFL need this one to go the distance too, it’ll get done.

 

[kirbatron]

the reading from the media on Smiths value has been a bit off.

at only 23, hes more than franked his pick 7 value. peak form he was 2 x firsts. knee devalued him a bit but hes worth more than rioli, baker, barrass, houston imo just on age & what hes capable of

 

[Ashman23]

the reading from the media on Smiths value has been a bit off.

at only 23, hes more than franked his pick 7 value. peak form he was 2 x firsts. knee devalued him a bit but hes worth more than rioli, baker, barrass, houston imo just on age & what hes capable of

I wonder what the media would suggest the Hawks would have to pay if we were in the mix?

 

[Pure_Ownage]

But then there's no other conclusion to draw from what you said other than that the system is flawed/unfair for the purposes of a collective set of rules that consistently apply to achieve equalisation, and/or the fact that Geelong are engaging in tampering.

I agree with the first one (not the second) the system absolutely is flawed and I've been saying that for years. I'm not sure why you would disagree with that conclusion.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

Geelong can’t let him go to the draft.

The dogs have more to lose in that scenario than we do we won't be worrying about that the way they will. That said a deal will get done Wednesday night.

 

[TylerDurden]

I wonder what the media would suggest the Hawks would have to pay if we were in the mix?

2 x firsts. They were saying this for a 29 year old Barrass, early days.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

The club has the final say and right now they want Geelong to come up with a better offer. Otherwise he's off and racing to the draft.

The dogs won't let him go to the draft as then they lose him for nothing. It harms them a lot more than it harms Geelong (who will probably get him there anyway such is the flawed system).

 

[Libbaaaa]

the reading from the media on Smiths value has been a bit off.

at only 23, hes more than franked his pick 7 value. peak form he was 2 x firsts. knee devalued him a bit but hes worth more than rioli, baker, barrass, houston imo just on age & what hes capable of

His peak form is two outlier finals in 2021, hasn’t come close to sniffing that sort of production since. Houston definitely a better player, agree that Baker is a stiff.

 

[Xtreme]

The dogs won't let him go to the draft as then they lose him for nothing. It harms them a lot more than it harms Geelong (who will probably get him there anyway such is the flawed system).

Not if Richmond, West Coast, North Melbourne, St Kilda etc etc draft him first

 

[Pistol Night]

Not if Richmond, West Coast, North Melbourne, St Kilda etc etc draft him first

All of them. Bailey be a freelance footballer next year

 

[Pleasedontfail11]

His peak form is two outlier finals in 2021, hasn’t come close to sniffing that sort of production since. Houston definitely a better player, agree that Baker is a stiff.

Houston is better but he is 3-4 years older.

 

[Tristan34]

Geelong can’t let him go to the draft.

Why?? No one will pick him, unless he wants to go there.. Which team will pick a player in the first round that refuses to do an interview?

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

This is a very simple but important point and gets to the crux of how broken the system is. Should a club be allowed to “trade” for a player they can’t “afford”. Surely some value has to be placed on out of contract players who haven’t reached FA. For another thread though as this isn’t unique to Geelong.

They can afford him, they have a first next year. Given Geelongs finals history, the two firsts with a 2nd back is perfectly fair.

 

[adogsfan5]

Next years draft is supposedly shallow and average. I can see why there’d be little appeal in a future second being thrown in and why Power is busy trying to get up the draft for this year.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

All of them. Bailey be a freelance footballer next year

Could you imagine a world where you could actually just sign a player for 4 rounds then they go somewhere else? Would be pretty wild

 

[CatToTheFuture]

Next years draft is supposedly shallow and average. I can see why there’d be little appeal in a future second being thrown in and why Power is busy trying to get up the draft for this year.

Don't think it changes too much making it a current second for me

 

[Pure_Ownage]

Not if Richmond, West Coast, North Melbourne, St Kilda etc etc draft him first

That's very unlikely. Most cases in previous history it doesn't. I would love for clubs to start taking players like Smith in the ND against their will to take some power back from the AFLPA but realistically statistics say it rarely happens.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

Next years draft is supposedly shallow and average. I can see why there’d be little appeal in a future second being thrown in and why Power is busy trying to get up the draft for this year.

The problem is with this draft being good clubs apart from gc and maybe essendon (who need points) will not want to trade out of the top end of it.

 

[threenewpadlocks]

The first part is true not the second

If other teams are discouraged from drafting him with a random pick in the teens, is that not tampering?

 

[Gee Class Loco]

F1 and 38 to Freo for 11 and 67
11 & 75 for Smith
17 to Melbourne for Oliver 49 & 54

Ok... so we can just give u F1 & 38 and u can just go get what u want from Freo then...?? yeah??
Beauty. Done deal!
As for Ollie a 2nd rounder is plenty if we pick up that salary. Which we will.