Confirmed Bailey Smith: 4-way trade: B. Smith (WB) & pick 45 to Geel / pick 38 to Carl / Macrae (WB) to StK / pick 17 & Kennedy (Carl) to WB

[Art Vandelay_]

Genuine question. How much emotional investment do you think cats fans have over a pick given to us as steak knives in a salary dump?

Time will show a lot of oppo fans to be foolish. Writing off Clark off already lol

 

[Doggy]

Time will show a lot of opportunities fans to be foolish. Writing off Clark off already lol

Writing off Busslinger, a key defender, who was a very late starter last year because of a shoulder issue, is "foolish", but it's been done in here

 

[Mr Meeseeks]

This thread is pretty wild! The worst thing is there are several cats supporters being fairly reasonable. Stop it! Making it hard to keep the hate up…now back on topic. I am not denigrating Bailey but I hope he stays or goes to the cats. He’s not a need prefer to hit the draft this year really impressed with the quality and positional diversity.

At the risk of sounding all 'she wasnt that hot anyway' I tend to agree.

I was all in on Baz and have been most of the year but I don't think we need him as much anymore. The midfield is working so well and I think Worpel has passed him in a similar role.

On afl player rankings, Worpel's 2017, 2023 and 2024 averages are all higher than Smith's best season of 2021. Mackenzie looks like he will be all class and Day/Newcombe speak for themselves. We are not as desperate as we were.

Obviously you always need to add talent but Im not sure the price is worth the player anymore. CHol is a solid player but with Lewis down again and Dear still a baby, the Hawks need key position players more and the money and/or picks might be better used there... Perhaps Im also a bit jumpy after we sold the farm for a prodigious talent coming off a serious injury a few years ago...

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

Still dont get why this is such a discussion

He is going to Geelong for Geelongs 1st rounder

Close thread. Its already happened in all honesty, its just not official yet

 

[Mr Meeseeks]

Still dont get why this is such a discussion

He is going to Geelong for Geelongs 1st rounder

Close thread. Its already happened in all honesty, its just not official yet

I cant see their first round pick being enough. Dogs wont just lie down, remember Dunkley?

 

[adogsfan5]

Still dont get why this is such a discussion

He is going to Geelong for Geelongs 1st rounder

Close thread. Its already happened in all honesty, its just not official yet

You have history of making shithouse predictions. So Baz is staying I guess.

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

I cant see their first round pick being enough. Dogs wont just lie down, remember Dunkley?

Way too early to make that call given the state of the ladder but this can certainly be the case. Im just suggesting that as a starting point, not the end point

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

You have history of making shithouse predictions. So Baz is staying I guess.

I think Doggies benefit from Smith leaving whereas Buss was always going to be a net loss

2024 is the perfect time to hit the draft with a good quality 1st rounder

 

[adogsfan5]

I think Doggies benefit from Smith leaving whereas Buss was always going to be a net loss

2024 is the perfect time to hit the draft with a good quality 1st rounder

Hmm not sure it’s a benefit, seeing as though power and pace in the middle is becoming really vital, and a few of our mids are in their 30s. I guess we have to hope we can land a quality mid in the draft if we lose him.

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

Hmm not sure it’s a benefit, seeing as though power and pace in the middle is becoming really vital, and a few of our mids are in their 30s. I guess we have to hope we can land a quality mid in the draft if we lose him.

Its the salary saving plus the fact Doggies draft very well as a whole. Youd be nuts not to back yourselves in and just move on if you ask me. Go through the last 15 years and find me one time you missed on a 1st rounder....

I mean Eagles probably going to take Riley Garcia off you, wanted to take Buss from you but failed and id consider these poorer picks Like Buss is legit the worst 1st rounder you taken in last 15 years (I consider Clay Smith a good and unlucky player not a bad pick).

Save the salary and move on really.

 

[Doggy]

Its the salary saving plus the fact Doggies draft very well as a whole. Youd be nuts not to back yourselves in and just move on if you ask me. Go through the last 15 years and find me one time you missed on a 1st rounder....

I mean Eagles probably going to take Riley Garcia off you, wanted to take Buss from you but failed and id consider these poorer picks Like Buss is legit the worst 1st rounder you taken in last 15 years (I consider Clay Smith a good and unlucky player not a bad pick).

Save the salary and move on really.

Literally in the first few drafts .. Christian Howard and Nathan Hrovat .... Andrejs Everitt instead of Jack Riewoldt was a good one before that

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

Literally in the first few drafts .. Christian Howard and Nathan Hrovat .... Andrejs Everitt instead of Jack Riewoldt was a good one before that

Thats nearly 20 years ago. Im talking more from 2010 to today. In that time you took

Clay Smith
Jake Stringer
Jack Macrae
Marcus Bontempelli
Tim English
Aaron Naughton
Ed Richards
Bailey Smith
Cody Weightman
Jamarra Ugle-Hagan
Sam Darcy
Jedd Buslinger
Ryley Sanders
Jordan Croft

Thats a fricken hell of a haul

 

[Doggy]

Thats nearly 20 years ago. Im talking more from 2010 to today. In that time you took

Clay Smith
Jake Stringer
Jack Macrae
Marcus Bontempelli
Tim English
Aaron Naughton
Ed Richards
Bailey Smith
Cody Weightman
Jamarra Ugle-Hagan
Sam Darcy
Jedd Buslinger
Ryley Sanders
Jordan Croft

Thats a fricken hell of a haul

Yeah but you said never missed. That's not true

I also doubt you take Gsrcia too

 

[CatToTheFuture]

Hmm not sure it’s a benefit, seeing as though power and pace in the middle is becoming really vital, and a few of our mids are in their 30s. I guess we have to hope we can land a quality mid in the draft if we lose him.

Have a look at the age of the last two premiership midfields

 

[BIGHAWK23]

You literally went back to 2009 and then hyperbole that pick 21 in a draft is equal to a 1st rounder given the draft was insanely compromised cos of GWS, and even then was your 3rd player taken.

Best to sit this one out and stop crying poor given AFL gift wrapped you JUH for no reason for example

Bailey hasn’t made a call yet

Happy to debate with Geelong fans

But the above rubbish is what I got banned for last week

No one cares about your strike rate

This is a thread about Bailey Smith

 

[CaptainWorpedo]

What will be, will be…… If Bailey chooses the Hawk, welcome come on down.

If Bailey chooses another team, then Bailey who? . Nah seriously his just another opposition player then.

The only person who would know Baileys plans are Bailey right now.

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

Haha, you said last 15 years. Christian Howard was a bust who didn't play a game as well.

Take it on the chin. You're wrong, yet again.

Also its a absolute shit take to say Hrovat was a bust. The guy had a ton of injuries and even then got traded to North

Believing someone is a bust because of injuries to me is dumb. You cant predict that as a recruiter and the player cant control that

On your logic then Aidan O'Driscoll must be a big bust....

 

[Doggy]

Also its a absolute shit take to say Hrovat was a bust. The guy had a ton of injuries and even then got traded to North

Believing someone is a bust because of injuries to me is dumb. You cant predict that as a recruiter and the player cant control that

On your logic then Aidan O'Driscoll must be a big bust....

I don't mind Nathan... I was involved at the Knights in his draft year. He is a good bloke and was a good captain.

He didn't have a ton of injuries though.

O'Driscoll was our last pick in the draft ... we're talking early picks here.

Again, Howard was a big bust. It was a poor pick

 

[Tristan34]

He has been injured for close to two seasons.. I don't really want him tbh..

 

[The Inbetweener]

He has been injured for close to two seasons.. I don't really want him tbh..

Huh? He wasn’t injured in 2023

 

[Xtreme]

He has been injured for close to two seasons.. I don't really want him tbh..

If neither of his destination clubs want him (I'd rather Hawthorn didn't take the risk) does that mean the Bulldogs get to retain him ?

 

[Rob R]

You’re dreaming if you think you’re getting Bailey Smith for anything less than a first round pick.

I like your optimism though.

I don't think we will get him as Bulldogs will want more than we should pay given what we need. Geelong or Pies make more sense

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[Strapping Young Lad]

I don't think we will get him as Bulldogs will want more than we should pay given what we need. Geelong or Pies make more sense

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He’d be stupid to go to Collingwood.

They need to rebuild through the draft, hard, and with Tassie coming it’s going to be tough.

 

[Trent the flight Steward]

He'd suit Collingwood more. Can't see bailey fitting into the Geelong lifestyle tbh

 

[HeHateMe]

I was all in and still think he will make us better, but would cost our 1st which will also make us better.

Now as the year drags on, I agree with some of the comments Worpels form the past few seasons makes it hard to fit him in. We already have a few other 1st Rd pick from the past few seasons getting squeezed out. Would be a nice get but not world ending.