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Also some interesting analysis on our team selection when playing teams we should be a chance against and the state of our fitness levels after the previous weeks big effort for Simmos 300th.
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Also some interesting analysis on our team selection when playing teams we should be a chance against and the state of our fitness levels after the previous weeks big effort for Simmos 300th.
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Don't necessarily think it is because no one would give him one, more so he wouldn't take one. Think he is happy doing what he is doing. That could also mean he doesn't think he could.
Amen.
Mate of mine with pretty good mail on selections (usually gets the changes 24-48 hours before announced and almost always spot on) reckons that Harry is unlikely for this week again, with Levi instead preferred to get the call up for Phillips, who's out for the season with that hammy injury.
With the seconds not playing from the bye, the MC may prefer Levi as the experience body, but I'm still in the 'play Harry' camp.
Hope I'm proven wrong come this evening.
With the seconds not playing from the bye, the MC may prefer Levi as the experience body, but I'm still in the 'play Harry' camp.
Hope I'm proven wrong come this evening.
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apparently it is
I get McKay hasn't been great in the vfl so I understand MC reason for leaving him out.
But god dam Levi has been plain useless the last few games he's played...hes offered nothing.
I'd even prefer Kerr.
Sometimes an elite defender is the best person to teach a forward how to beat defenders.
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This is really interesting. I never really gave the subject any thought. After reading your post, though, I would have thought that these defensive players you mentioned would have the potential to be great line coaches. Obviously there are other factors. A senior coach though, needs to be able to weave these three lines together to form a coherent game plan. They also need to be a communicator, like it or not, for the sake of media and stakeholders. Plus a little intelligence along with a few other attributes.
And I imagine that it happens the other way around, with a senior coach saying, "Hey, we're going to be defined by pressure so we're going to be playing like Sydney has for the past 10 years". He gives the parameters. We're playing a spare in defense, and only one ruck.
They then put together their lines structures to meet those requirements. This might be, for example, directing forwards to push up really high to help lock the opposition ball into our forward half, at the expense of risking easy goals out the back. Could be our mids playing tight at the expense of not being able to break away on turnovers, and getting stuck moving the ball slowly into our forward line. Or the exact opposite, with our guys trying so hard to create overlap that they don't lock down their opponent and it puts too much pressure on our defense with easy entries.
So in our case, we've had to focus on stopping the bleeding, so despite the earlier directive to play an attacking, attractive brand of football, we've crawled back into a defensive mindset to prevent results like Brisbane occurring every week.
in 2018, the 2 players I wanted to see the most (apart from new recruits) was Pickett and Williamson. With Doc going down pre-season, it looked like Williamson was going to get a lot of game time, preparing us well for a post Simpson world. That didn't really work out. I'm not interested in the media drivel. I think that next year will be quite different to what most in the media will expect. I'll be first in queue to renew my membership.
This is the rubbish you get when I type before my second coffee...apologies to all....
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It's not just about positional stuff - he's a senior player from what is widely considered one of the strongest club cultures in the last decade.
If he can help to instil the attitudes and behaviours that have kept Sydney up the top of the ladder for so long, that would be extremely valuable. He's also still playing good football, and is flexible enough to be used down back, on a wing, or up forward.
What makes you think McVeigh would be?
Your second point is 100% correct.
My issue is this.
RUMOUR: we are in Mark LeCras ear to come and help in a hodge-type situation, for our young forwards.
I've underlined the important bits for the Melb based blues fans who seem incapable of understanding what this relatively straight forward collection of words might mean.
We just got poleaxed by a team who had Hodge (who last year was considered cooked) playing a pivotal role as a defender.
If any of the pumpkin headed Melb based brethren watched that game you would know that we actually WON the inside 50 count. True story.
Now, to us non-Victorian types, we might (just might) see that as an issue that could need rectifying. Gee, how would someone (from outside Victoria obviously) handle that task? (it's a tough tough question) . How about we get well credentialed veteran forward from an organisation that has a very good functioning forward line.
Non-Victorians "Brilliant!!!! Now find us a some candidates"
Victorian Blues fans: " Dunno, sounds kind of stoopid"
ONE CANDIDATE :
Mark LeCras.
31 Years Old
209 games
400+ Goals
One of the best kicks in the comp.
Having his best season in 5 before injuring his wrist.
Was playing in the best forward set up in the comp prior to Darling, Kennedy and himself being injured.
Non-Victorians: "I think he might add something" " Country kid from WA like Cripps, Pickett, Fish, SPS" "He's well known for his professional preparation" " Has coaching ambitions" " Elite user of the ball". "Certainly worth considering", "better than Shaw and O'Shea"
Victorian Blues Fans: " I want a 34 year old back man from Sydney". "What would he know about forwards?" "I'll quit the club if we get that guy"
Seriously, they just saved a soccer team from a cave in Thailand, we need to save a club from hole in Melb. I wonder if those divers are busy.
Looks like the manure truck might be ordered after all.BF posters will lose their minds tonight.
They shouldn't but outrage over a rather trifling selection seems to be the current cause célèbre.
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Damned if they do, damned if they don't.
Bring McKay in and it looks like caving to media pressure.
Bring Casboult in and the pressure builds more for the following week.
What the club needs is a big performance from Harry, something we can hold up and go "Hey, here's what we've been waiting to see, a four-quarter, 5-goal VFL performance, Harry has shown he understands what it required and he'll be selected this week".
I definitely think there's a history of many successful coaches not being "the most talented" players, but rather ones who had to understand the game, graft and work extremely hard to make it at the top level. Of course it's not a one-size-fits-all answer, but you can imagine a player of the dominant brilliance of, say, Wayne Carey, struggling to get his message across to the less talented. He'd say "just leap into the pack, take the mark, play on and dob it from 55m!" and the poor shmo would go "uhh... sure YOU could do that, there, Wayno, but..." Or a Gary Ablett Snr could do things NOBODY else could, but likewise it wasn't a plan or preparation or thinking that enabled him to do it - it was pure talent, not something you can teach.
Look around the AFL and you have Clarkson, Goodwin, the Scotts, Hardwick, Richardson, Pyke, Simpson, etc..... all of course were very good footballers, but none were really freak talents or "brilliant". They all "got the most out of themselves" and did well through competitiveness, combativeness, preparation and smarts. Those are messages that can be taught, and apply for everyone from the most talented down to the least on the list.
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1 towel - 2 pegs - the end.
There is no way McKay should be selected after last week's performance. No goals, no contested marks, no pressure acts, he was a virtual spectator.
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Keep rolling out the big fella... One day he will kick 8 straight and we will all have egg on our faces...
Fortunately it will be for Wodonga Bulldogs in the Ovens and Murray league... big turn up for those on the VB cans
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3am - wakes, sits up, looks around in the dark, smirks........."that's brilliant - I'm using it on BF...........shut those idiot easterners up." 3.05 - sleeps.
8.05 am.
It was either the English soccer team or the Thai kids.
(May or may not be my actual face)
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england - the hilarity continues..........
they'd still outscore us at the moment.
To be fair, though, those Thai U12 kids would have out-spread and worked our team last weekend. :-D
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