Bluemour Discussion Thread VII (cont. in pt VIII)

[thylacine60]

If the Saints want #3 and are prepared to give us #7 & #8 back in return, I'd be asking "where do I burn my trident brand".

 

[RudyBlue]

Book tour.

'Trade Week is Slow but SOS is Patient'

 

[Prem17]

McKay - yet to play seniors regularly
Kerr - yet to play seniors at all
Charlie - may be used more in the midfield
JSOS - is not a KPF
BSOS - isn't even at the club

Thankyou Captain Obvious! LOL
McKay has had an injury interrupted start to his career but showed a good skill set in the games he has played.
Kerr was progressing very well in the magoos according to Josh Fraser's weekly games reports before his first year was cut short by injury, so I can't understand why people have written him off after half a season!?
Charlie could be one of our all time great CHF's if we continue to recruit the right midfielders, as we have done in the past 2 years.
JSOS is a third tall type who applies modern style pressure and was never labeled by me as a number 1 forward prospect.
BSOS, worst case scenario, will only be 3 pre-seasons behind Schache when he is drafted this time next year. I would think that between Charlie, McKay and Kerr along with resting ruckmen that we will have a bit of cover in place already by that time to offer cover for BSOS for a couple of seasons while he establishes himself.
To get Schache, we are going to need to give up at least one pick and possibly also a player.
The picks and even any possible trading of players could be better used to recruit quality midfielders.

 

[Garth Vader]

We'll make them an offer they can't refuse.

For a sec, thought that was Jezza.

 

[Zlatan]

If the Saints want #3 and are prepared to give us #7 & #8 back in return, I'd be asking "where do I sign".

We’d need to give them something back to balance the deal.

But if this was to happen, I wouldn’t mind Kennedy and another player for pick 8, and then use 7 in the draft for another midfielder.

 

[Pafloyul]

Once were all aware and informed of the exceptional tall talent available next year, Lynch will be hardly mentioned by the bottom 5 clubs.
There's prodigious talent availabled for bottom 5 or 6 teams, a little more patience. Go Baggers

It would be funny if Carlton drafted one of the King twins and North Melbourne, the other.

 

[bmaurizio]

We’d need to give them something back to balance the deal.

But if this was to happen, I wouldn’t mind Kennedy and another player for pick 8, and then use 7 in the draft for another midfielder.

I would not give up more than a mid to late 2nd rounder for Kennedy a pick13 in draft year , uncontracted and has nominated CFC.

 

[bmaurizio]

It would be funny if Carlton drafted one of the King twins and North Melbourne, the other.

Agree, as long as we land Max King he's a ripper will be a gun and maintains the status between the brothers.

 

[Robertio]

It would be funny if Carlton drafted one of the King twins and North Melbourne, the other.

As long as we get the better one again.

 

[Coops93]

Potential Carlton Recruits (their likelihood /10) . . .

Matt Kennedy 10
Devon Smith 6
Adam Saad 6
Darcy Lang 4
Josh Schache 7
Tom Lynch 2

Remaining with Carlton (likelihood /10)

Bryce Gibbs 9
Rhys Palmer 1
Blaine Boekhorst 3
Pick 3 6




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Are you suggesting that 7/10 times we end up with Schache in this situation? If so that's very likely we end up with him, same with Saad and Smith

 

[BringBackSimmo]

Paul Puopolo?

 

[AndyLucimitis]

If the Saints want #3 and are prepared to give us #7 & #8 back in return, I'd be asking "where do I sign".

I guess the obvious question has been asked "Who are the Saints so desperate to get and why aren't we then looking to draft him".

 

[bleednavyblue]

Paul Puopolo?[/QUOTE

Only Bolts and Cam Bruce would know if he would be of any benefit, but i doubt it. We need mids!

 

[DollarsandSense]

If the Saints want #3 and are prepared to give us #7 & #8 back in return, I'd be asking "where do I sign".

#3 and their #7 this year and their 1st next year.... hmmmmmmmmm
our next years 2nd for Kennedy... BOOM!
but that aint gonna happen.

 

[BringBackSimmo]

Up to five clubs in the market are kicking the tyres around delisted Fremantle ruckman Zac Clarke.

Marc McGowan reports that Greater Western Sydney, the Brisbane Lions, Carlton, Melbourne, Richmond and the Western Bulldogs all have need for an experienced, back-up ruckman.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-10-11/host-of-clubs-want-to-bring-zac-back

 

[Shambolic]

I guess the obvious question has been asked "Who are the Saints so desperate to get and why aren't we then looking to draft him".

Or what do the saints really need to show in 2018 and how much might they overpay for that

 

[BrisbaneCFC]

I'm really saddened by the idea that people are okay with a bottom 5 finish next year because the draft is supposedly stronger. When we do all this accumulation of talent, we have to hold on to it and you don't just flick a switch for it to come together.

I would suggest that another bottom 4/5 finish for the third year in a row, Bolton will actually have some tough questions to answer, even though we are rebuilding and adding talent to the list. It does seem quite strange to hear people say exactly what you have said. I don't understand it. I think we very much need to see a move up the ladder, outside of the bottom five and more wins.

 

[bluemahogany]

Would make sense to look at Clarke as a DFA, even if we draft a ruck as well

 

[Blue Doormat]

If the Saints want #3 and are prepared to give us #7 & #8 back in return, I'd be asking "where do I sign".

Then we could on trade #7 for Whiley KJ and #19

 

[Tommy Alvin]

anyone else think TA is making a run for best first year poster? bluemour?

Thanks Thylacine60, appreciated.

But honestly, go saints! You don't want two picks in the top ten, just one, a really good one.

TA

 

[Aphrodite]

Lookout - she's baaaaaack...............

I never left FFS.

 

[Broadside]

I would suggest that another bottom 4/5 finish for the third year in a row, Bolton will actually have some tough questions to answer, even though we are rebuilding and adding talent to the list. It does seem quite strange to hear people say exactly what you have said. I don't understand it. I think we very much need to see a move up the ladder, outside of the bottom five and more wins.

don't agree, Bolton (and SOS) inherited a list in a parlous state. If it were a house it would have been condemned. Another year of building the right foundations, if necessary, then rapid progress 2019 and beyond.

 

[RoyalBlues]

Are you suggesting that 7/10 times we end up with Schache in this situation? If so that's very likely we end up with him, same with Saad and Smith

Suggesting that if 10 is getting or retaining the player, then say 7 is 70% likely (today)


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[Siegfried]

If the Saints want #3 and are prepared to give us #7 & #8 back in return, I'd be asking "where do I sign".

Pick 3 has an 87% chance of being a 150 game player (from 2000-2015 drafts).

Pick 7 had a 60% chance of being a 150 game player, and pick 8 has a 47% chance.

Interesting how points wise, you need to add in a pick 19ish to pick 3 to equal it out. And yet with those odds, you'd think twice about doing a straight swap, 3 for 7 and 8 alone. This whole points thing can be very misleading.

 

[Metalcrusher]

lol! its entertaining to watch some of todays youth think they are relevant

Funny that at 44 I'm feeling todays youth are pushing the relevance of youth faster than I remember ... where is my onion belt again?