Bluemour Discussion Thread XIV - Facts Not Welcome

[Juddalenko]

You can get a test done to dispel this particular rumour.

I’m happy to confirm he’s mine. Don’t see him lining up at full forward anytime soon though given my propensity towards uncoordination.

 

[footyfan1978]

I'm starting to wonder if we need a sacrificial Lamb

Thy ?

 

[Iamcarlton]

Injuries? Poor form? Macreadie playing Westoff type roll?

So I will turn the conversation around, we have got MM and Fasolo as forwards, adding Setterfield, add Walsh, pick 43 mid, pick 69 mid

This is the team, for round 1, all fit

Plowman Jones Marchbank
Simpson Wetering Doc
LOB Cripps Williamson
Krezuer Kennedy Dow
MM Curnow Fasolo
Fisher McKay SPS
I: Curnow Murphy Walsh Setterfield

Rest: Pickett, Garlett, Cuners, JSOS, Lamb, Lang, Polson, Macreadie, TDK, Byrne, Graham, Kerridge, Thomas, pick 43 mid, pick 69 mid etc


How do we squeeze all these mids/rotations into best 22?

Can never have enough mids and as weve found out for the past 2 years can have too many talls .

 

[TeeJay Blue]

Can never have enough mids and as weve found out for the past 2 years can have too many talls .

Just ask Collingwood.

Practically everybody there gets 30+ possessions and runs through the midfield.

 

[A_blue]

We dont really have the available list spots to be bringing in a bunch of draft picks. MM, Setterfield and Fasolo replace Wright, O'Shea and Mullett.
Pretty much means that Graham, Kerridge, Lamb and possibly Rowe have to moved on.

 

[Arr0w]

Can never have enough mids and as weve found out for the past 2 years can have too many talls .

Both from that list of 26 and under

2 mids get injured = we have back up
2 KPD get injured = NO BACKUP

 

[BlueTang]

We dont really have the available list spots to be bringing in a bunch of draft picks. MM, Setterfield and Fasolo replace Wright, O'Shea and Mullett.
Pretty much means that Graham, Kerridge, Lamb and possibly Rowe have to moved on.

Don’t think many would be upset by that!

 

[Iamcarlton]

Both from that list of 26 and under

2 mids get injured = we have back up
2 KPD get injured = NO BACKUP

Since when has AFL turned to 26 and under ?
Put it this way id rather have a surplus of mids than talls were playing modern day football its not the 80's and 90's anymore .

 

[ITCHY EYEBALLS]

2000 th post, big congrats to me

The way I look at it, SOS holds in his hand, the last of Willy Wonka’s Golden tickets.
Wave it out there great man, and see what you can get!

 

[Gingerbread man]

Any chance of a daily recap, on holidays and 15 cans down I can't catch up

 

[Arr0w]

Since when has AFL turned to 26 and under ?
Put it this way id rather have a surplus of mids than talls were playing modern day football its not the 80's and 90's anymore .

Ah there it is

Pies GF backline say hello

 

[My Hat]

Lots of speculation today, not much in the way of facts. I don't have any facts either, so hey, let's speculate.

On trading pick 1: Surely the only way we do this is if we can bring in 1-2 high-quality established mids. As ep said the other day, we don't need more kids. Taking multiple high picks to the draft has served us well over the last few years, but that's not where we are any more. Walsh aside, we're now transitioning to an outlook where high picks are trade currency first, kids second. It's phase 2 of the rebuild, right on schedule.

On Shiel: at this point it's 99% likely he goes to *, and even if the deal falls through I think SOS ruled out us coming in late as an alternative, so this is probably a moot point. But I don't agree with this idea that someone Really Has To Want To Play For Carlton (tm) in order to get a game for us. Exhibit A: Bryce Gibbs. He missed out on going to Adelaide on the first try, got over it, worked hard, and had a great year. Exhibit B: Chris Judd. By all accounts he wasn't desperate to be a Blue, he just wanted to play for a Big 4 side that could do a fair deal with WC. It's like those job ads that expect you to be "passionate" about accounting or tech or whatever. No. You just need to be professional. If the club is doing its job, passion will come with commitment and time.

Again, it's incredibly unlikely that we'll be in play for Shiel from here. We might not be his second choice even if the current deal falls through. But if we are, I'd be fine with it.

 

[footyfan1978]

Any chance of a daily recap, on holidays and 15 cans down I can't catch up

uuus hhhh ltp7 kkk ;;; jrl #jws

hope that kelps

 

[BlueTongue]

As much as I hate it, I have had to accept the reality that our trade period is almost done.

SOS isn’t pulling any rabbits of out the hat, our trade period is almost done once setters deal is finalised.

I used to have hope too that SOS could turn water into gold, but truth is that SOS isn’t capable of that so we have to accept that once again we walk away from a trade period without securing an a-grader.

That's hardly SOS' fault though. Shiel had the world at his feet here, was offered more than I would have liked, given I don't think he's elite, yet he chose a team with a hugely tarnished rep, on the hope of a quick flag. I don't think we'll see a genuine A-grader until we start to challenge the eight.

Thanks goodness we still have players like Fasolo & McGovern who want to prove themselves to the footy world that they can play and are confident enough that we'll come good.

 

[thylacine60]

Any chance of a daily recap, on holidays and 15 cans down I can't catch up

No need to tell us you are 15 cans to the wind - where's the ****ing full stop, ff?? Rummy..........

 

[TommyMcG]

As much as I hate it, I have had to accept the reality that our trade period is almost done.

SOS isn’t pulling any rabbits of out the hat, our trade period is almost done once setters deal is finalised.

I used to have hope too that SOS could turn water into gold, but truth is that SOS isn’t capable of that so we have to accept that once again we walk away from a trade period without securing an a-grader.

 

[BringBackSimmo]

No need to tell us you are 15 cans to the wind - where's the ******* full stop, ff?? Rummy..........

How do you know he is drinking Rum?

 

[Iamcarlton]

Ah there it is

Pies GF backline say hello

What has Collingwoods backline got to do with subject ?
You dont have trust in our young backline ?

 

[95blues]

Since when has AFL turned to 26 and under ?
Put it this way id rather have a surplus of mids than talls were playing modern day football its not the 80's and 90's anymore .

On the contrary... today we actually took a step back to the 80's/90's. No more flooded forward lines at bounces. Big guys are going to be important again.

 

[thylacine60]

How do you know he is drinking Rum?

parrot told me......

 

[AB_Blue]

We dont really have the available list spots to be bringing in a bunch of draft picks. MM, Setterfield and Fasolo replace Wright, O'Shea and Mullett.
Pretty much means that Graham, Kerridge, Lamb and possibly Rowe have to moved on.

That username tho....

 

[TooBlue14]

Iamcarlton here is a look at a team that is 26 and under, adding Smith, Walsh and 2 mids with later picks, spot the glaring holes medium term.

Seniors
Plowman Macreadie Marchbank
Byrne Wetering Doc
LOB Cripps Williamson
De Koning Kennedy Dow
MM Curnow Fasolo
Fisher McKay SPS
Lang Smith Walsh Setterfield

VFL
JSOS BSOS Lamb
Garlett ??? CHB Schumacher
Polson Graham Pick 43
??? Ruck Kerridge Cuningham
Pick 69 ??? CHF Pickett
??? Kerr ???
??? McDaid Lebois ???

How are we getting Smith and Walsh.

 

[95blues]

Ah there it is

Pies GF backline say hello

Eagles even more dangerous this coming season too.

Its to late to start copying Richmond/Collingwood.

 

[Jimthegreat]

Just read through the last 30-40 pages trying to catch up and see what's happening. In summary

We will give up Pick One & Next years first

and get will go to draft with

Picks 2, 3, 5, 13, 21, 26, 28,

and get Setterfield Kelly Martin Coniglio Finlayson Wingard Brodie Scrimshaw Neale Beams & May

Not bad

You've got the job!

 

[footyfan1978]

parrot told me......

You trust it ?