Rumour Bluemour Discussion XXXV - 'Loopy' Season has begun

[marcmurphy3]

But, GC don't have pick 8

Yeah, and you can't compare a trade with Geelong for pick 8 with the Gold Coast. They are after points while Geelong aren't.

 

[Arr0w]

Where does he sit on your list?

Still watching games, but comfortable top 10

 

[C4[2]Yo`DooR]

Another SA non-Carlton related one:

Crows very much in talks with GWS for Nick Hayne salary dump (assuming to play the Doedee role) and a pick.

 

[The Old Dark Navy's]

Sounds spicy. What happened there?

Hawks needed something to get a trade over the line in the dying stages of the draft. Might have been Mitchell or O'Meara or something and we gave them a second rounder we got in the Tuohy trade in return for a few junk picks and everybody speculated that we did the Hawks a solid and they would pay us back somehow. That still hasn't happened.

 

[RPCB]

Hawks needed something to get a trade over the line in the dying stages of the draft. Might have been Mitchell or O'Meara or something and we gave them a second rounder we got in the Tuohy trade in return for a few junk picks and everybody speculated that we did the Hawks a solid and they would pay us back somehow. That still hasn't happened.

No better time than next year Campo twins draft.

 

[C4[2]Yo`DooR]

Hawks needed something to get a trade over the line in the dying stages of the draft. Might have been Mitchell or O'Meara or something and we gave them a second rounder we got in the Tuohy trade in return for a few junk picks and everybody speculated that we did the Hawks a solid and they would pay us back somehow. That still hasn't happened.

It was JOM.

I think the fact that we got involved and interfered with Essendon recruiting O’meara is payment enough

 

[Coops93]

Pick 8 for 21 and 25? That's a mugging

It is... is there anything else we can offer they might want? Any players looking or maybe a future pick - though you'd think we'd be stockpiling them not trading them

After a few academy bids pick 8 could be more like 11, 24 and 28 for 11? Better but still a bit under

 

[WyntersGame_]

Better disposal than Francis. Watched him closely very clean footballer

From the very quick profile I read he seems to struggle with having a tank and speed

Is this true, assuming you are more familiar with his body of work

 

[Arr0w]

It is... is there anything else we can offer they might want? Any players looking or maybe a future pick - though you'd think we'd be stockpiling them not trading them

After a few bids pick 8 could be more like 11, 24 and 28 for 11? Better but still not right

Thought about all the connotations I know, even discounting Cats are looking for future picks and other clubs have more capital picks wise

Pick 21, 25 and F1

Pick 21, 25, F1, Young (we have cover)

I understand the rumours, even how you could manipulate Austin's interviews, but unless we are giving up a best 22 player, can't see it happening with us

 

[RPCB]

It was JOM.

I think the fact that we got involved and interfered with Essendon recruiting O’meara is payment enough

We don’t say that word around these parts ffs.

It’s *.

 

[Santo the king]

One recruiter i know absolutely loves sanders.

 

[BlackGoanna]

Isn’t Sanders next gen Nth Melbourne ?


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[BlackGoanna]

Nvm, can’t match a bid in the top 40


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[BlackGoanna]

Has anyone worked at the draft point differential with Fisher trade after compo, fs and academy bids are taken into consideration?


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[C4[2]Yo`DooR]

One recruiter i know absolutely loves sanders.

Is it Paul Brodie? sorry couldn’t help myself with that one

 

[Forty3]

Thought about all the connotations I know, even discounting Cats are looking for future picks and other clubs have more capital picks wise

Pick 21, 25 and F1

Pick 21, 25, F1, Young (we have cover)

I understand the rumours, even how you could manipulate Austin's interviews, but unless we are giving up a best 22 player, can't see it happening with us

My understanding is the two picks we acquired and maybe a bit extra would be used to net GC F1 + Hollands.

We don’t want F1 picks for next year, so our F1 and GC F1 for pick 8 and future points.

It’s far from a done deal, but it’s a possibility.

GC currently have just over 4000 points in value, Jed will cost them 2000 alone, and they have 3 more players they want to net from their academy.

 

[teagueyubeauty]

Hollands will get to Carlton for SFA due to GC needing enough lost spots to go to the draft with all their picks otherwise they’re breaking AFL rules using so many late picks for top 10 players.

They’ll ask for leniency like Geelong not using a first rounder for so many drafts in a row and probably get it…just because, you know makey uppey bullshit usually reserved for everyone besides Carlton


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[Coops93]

Thought about all the connotations I know, even discounting Cats are looking for future picks and other clubs have more capital picks wise

Pick 21, 25 and F1

Pick 21, 25, F1, Young (we have cover)

I understand the rumours, even how you could manipulate Austin's interviews, but unless we are giving up a best 22 player, can't see it happening with us

Young was my thought too.

He wouldn't be a million miles away tbf, Geelong losing Esava could use some defensive cover. 21, 25 and Young is still under though really

 

[Coops93]

My understanding is the two picks we acquired and maybe a bit extra would be used to net GC F1 + Hollands.

We don’t want F1 picks for next year, so our F1 and GC F1 for pick 8 and future points.

It’s far from a done deal, but it’s a possibility.

GC currently have just over 4000 points in value, Jed will cost them 2000 alone, and they have 3 more players they want to net from their academy.

Could see us sending 65 for next year's 4th for Suns. Purely a points based swap, a few for the Suns this yr and few for us next yr

 

[Arr0w]

My understanding is the two picks we acquired and maybe a bit extra would be used to net GC F1 + Hollands.

We don’t want F1 picks for next year, so our F1 and GC F1 for pick 8 and future points.

It’s far from a done deal, but it’s a possibility.

GC currently have just over 4000 points in value, Jed will cost them 2000 alone, and they have 3 more players they want to net from their academy.

Okay, think I understand where you are heading now

21, 25, F3 (Dow trade) for F1 (Currently pick 10, they would hope they finish higher), Hollands

Then offer the Suns F1 to Cats? Think they would want more. I guess we could ask for a F2, F3 from the Cats, if we also give them our F1

Best option to date, but it's pick 8 then some late picks, plus Hollands

 

[DangerousD]

Dogs have made their trade specifically to get Nick the wizard Watson

Gut feel or have you got information?

 

[tencentpiece]

Welcome back 10cp - any insight re. E.Hollands?

Yes, will get done

So you think Fisher deal will get done soon for not much (cheap)? Appreciate the info but how does that align with the club isn't in a rush to deal unless we benefit?

Hope it makes sense in hindsight

 

[tencentpiece]

At St Kilda?

Never said he would accept it.

 

[btdg]

Hawks needed something to get a trade over the line in the dying stages of the draft. Might have been Mitchell or O'Meara or something and we gave them a second rounder we got in the Tuohy trade in return for a few junk picks and everybody speculated that we did the Hawks a solid and they would pay us back somehow. That still hasn't happened.

We traded a future second round pick (which became pick 20) for picks 48, 66 and 70. This allowed Hawthorn (who had traded their F1) to trade a F2 in order to get Jaeger O'Meara. The pick was the one we received for Zac Touhy (along with Billie Smedts)

We also took Rhys Palmer from Freo in a 'salary dump' trade that year too.

At the time, everyone here thought SOS was a genius/master trader and that there must be some great plan being cooked up.

In the end we drafted Mcreadie, Polson and Kerr. Our other draft picks that year were SPS, Fisher, Willamson, Sheehan, LeBois, Galluci, Alex Silvagni and we also traded for Pickett and Marchbank

It turns out SOS may not, in fact, have been a genius and was really just basing everything off 3 year old scouting reports from his son's APS games.

 

[Arr0w]

So if those deals go down with GC, then the Cats (there would be other minor picks change hands)

Lose 17, F1, Fisher, Dow

Gain 8, Hollands, late pick draftees