Think they will try and include extra pick or picks to get it done….
Houston just needs to decide his future doesn’t lay with a filthy club on the decline
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Houston just needs to decide his future doesn’t lay with a filthy club on the decline
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I’ve taken the approach to AFL media rumours as “Have our ITK’s said it? No? Then it’s AFL media BS.” I’ve taken that approach for a very long time.
We have ITK’s on here with good information, who have had impressive strike rates over many years. There is no reason to get stressed out (not saying anyone is) over what some click baity journo selling a story is saying.
Yep not real unless Barrett & co put it into a bullshit cryptic riddle or song mashup…..
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The thing is, we can trade in as many great players as humanly possible and it doesn’t guarantee a premiership.
Of course the club would think our time is now like many other clubs, but we need to continue to keep bringing in quality youth. Some it may take a few years to click or some they might just work overnight.
Looking at Brisbane yesterday they played:
Ashcroft 20
Lohmann 21
Fletcher 20
Morris 19
They trusted their youth and all 4 played really good games.
We MUST continue to go down the draft track imo and if a very good player drops to us, then of course we take a chance re trade. But to go all in and trade our picks away on 1 or 2 players wouldn’t be the sensible option.
Well said Juddy. We were discussing this last night. Lohman Morris Ah Chee, Zorko to defence only happened because of injury
Would have Fagan made this changes otherwise? I don’t know but I doubt it. Coaches these days are so fixated on processes and structures and have tunnel vision.
Reminds me so much of our last 2 games this year. Lord Binns Moir, Hollands to HB, Kemp forward etc made us look better
I hope our coaches open our thinking to this next year. I’m excited by these young players along with O’Keefe & Wilson
Houston would be great, and I will be happy to get him, but never underestimate what continued youth, opportunity and regeneration brings to a side
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Pretty sure the Pies are going hard for Perryman & not Houston.
Not sure Damo is up with player movements too much these days.
Barrett is vying for biggest pretender in the footy media. For a bloke with inside contacts for decades, he has no clue. Happy to wing it and make shit up for a buy line
Definitely on Perryman - he’s done interviews and medical.
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You got that right!.Yep not real unless Barrett & co put it into a bullshit cryptic riddle or song mashup…..
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I think their biggest problem was the MCG... Heeney being injured didn't exactly help though.
Their game is a lot more sustainable on the smaller grounds, particularly the SCG imo.
Nor does investing all our currency at the draft. Lions had 7 players from other clubs, so it's generally a balance
We can still target a ready made type and invest most of our currency in youth
Motlop
Elijah
Ollie
Cowan
Different positions and quality, but all the same age
I don't think we will trade all our currency on ready made types, nor do I believe anyone has suggested we should
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Actually, I'd be very happy if this is what we do...
Couple of 1st rounders, Campo twins + Haynes and we've done quite well imo.
Yeah but they are not a Vic team and want 2nd & 3rd rounders for Academy picks….
Still can't believe they gave away pick 7 and Bowes for literally nothing
it had to have been a horrific contract for bowes surely?
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Our season and it's final result has so many layers, variables and sliding door moments. To claim that being 2nd for a large portion of the year is any less relevant than a particular loss is just data selecting to suit your argument. There is balance to everything.
Everyone has 'their' opinion on why we finished where we did and you have clearly stated yours. In my opinion, our season was a lot more nuanced than final ladder position. I am strongly in the camp that with a better injury list creating more continuity, our final H&A ladder position and our finals run would have played out a little differently. Our best is good enough, but we still need to make improvements over the off season because every other team will.
To put a different perspective on our season. No top 8 side used as many players as us. No top 8 side had as big an injury list as ours. A healthy list is the key factor in building understanding of playing systems and each person's role in it.
For a lot of people both in and out of the industry, sides are always compared to the premier. This year...
Carlton beat them once by 1 point and lost the second game by 28 points.
Sydney lost twice, 2 points than 60 points.
The pies beat them twice and didn't make finals.
The cats beat them during the H&A but lost the prelim at home.
The giants beat them twice in the H&A but lost the semi.
I don't think we are as far away as you seem to imply. Hopefully next year we aren't having the same debate.
What about beating 3 of the 4 preliminary finalists, actually 'spanking' two of them to use your terminology.
Our season and it's final result has so many layers, variables and sliding door moments. To claim that being 2nd for a large portion of the year is any less relevant than a particular loss is just data selecting to suit your argument. There is balance to everything.
Everyone has 'their' opinion on why we finished where we did and you have clearly stated yours. In my opinion, our season was a lot more nuanced than final ladder position. I am strongly in the camp that with a better injury list creating more continuity, our final H&A ladder position and our finals run would have played out a little differently. Our best is good enough, but we still need to make improvements over the off season because every other team will.
To put a different perspective on our season. No top 8 side used as many players as us. No top 8 side had as big an injury list as ours. A healthy list is the key factor in building understanding of playing systems and each person's role in it.
For a lot of people both in and out of the industry, sides are always compared to the premier. This year...
Carlton beat them once by 1 point and lost the second game by 28 points.
Sydney lost twice, 2 points than 60 points.
The pies beat them twice and didn't make finals.
The cats beat them during the H&A but lost the prelim at home.
The giants beat them twice in the H&A but lost the semi.
I don't think we are as far away as you seem to imply. Hopefully next year we aren't having the same debate.
Absolute disgrace the AFL allowed it to happen, makey uppey
Should have been made to trade a good player on big coin for something that was close to perceived and real value.
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Hugely back ended, like Lukosius
Just wait when clubs trade picks for cap spaceAbsolute disgrace the AFL allowed it to happen, makey uppey
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Compared to:
Saad
McGovern
Williams
Cerra
Hewett
Acres
Newman
Young
Elijah
Kennedy
Pittonet
Fogarty
Fantasia
Docherty
Martin (gone)
Marchbank (gone)
We haven't invested much into the draft for years...
2020:
37 -> Durdin
41 -> Carroll
2021:
27 -> Motlop
2022:
11 -> Ollie
30 -> Cowan
32 -> Binns
47 -> Lemmey
2023:
29 -> Moir
34 -> Wilson
Only two first round picks in the last 4 years...
and at #29 for Moir, that was obviously a very compromised first round...
Absolutely need to focus on hitting the draft harder this year imo...
Salary dump…. AFL give them that many picks & leg ups they don’t know what the **** to do with all of their players
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Compounded by all the early draft pick misses or those who are no longer on the list or playing at all….
Minimal relevance to my post, or the post I responded to
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I’ve heard Oscar Allen to Brisbane off mates that live in Queensland for a while now. I have no idea how that’d be able to do that but
I've heard Chad to West Coast from two different sources.
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