Free Agency Brandon Ellis [Signs for Gold Coast, Richmond receive #39 compensation]

[smasha]

It suited the AFL agenda to give Geelong a pick to trade for Ablett. It suited the AFL not to give Richmond a higher pick, that's how it's done, what suits the AFL, surely you didn't expect it to be fair and level? You are a fool if you did

Geelong,there is a reason they are called the handbaggers.

 

[Wayne Swan]

Why irrespective of precedent? It's the rules. You can't punish a successful club for playing by the rules.

First exhibit - Sydney Trade Ban for playing by the rules. AFL's explanation "you can't have everybody"

AFL make it up as they go to suit the AFLs agenda, we upset their Buddy to GWS plan, we cop a ban for not breaking any rules.

 

[U2tigers]

What a ****ing disgrace. Making rules up as they go.

Something needs to be done about Gold Coast poaching all these Tiger players.

AFL is a joke.

 

[JasRulz63]

Absolute joke by the afl as usual same cash as lycett more cash then Motlop and Rockliff worse pick utter joke

$ per year is significantly more important than length of the contract, and Rockliff was reportedly on ~$700k per year, so it makes sense why his compensation was higher. Though reportedly it was very close to a band 1. No idea on Motlop though.

There's also a chance that the reported contract in the media isn't entirely correct as well e.g. the reported figure might include incentives which aren't included in the compensation calculation.

 

[Peel67skin]

What a ******* disgrace. Making rules up as they go.

Something needs to be done about Gold Coast poaching all these Tiger players.

AFL is a joke.

You can offer them 4 years deal or match it. GCS happy to walk out and let you keep him for 4 years.

 

[U2tigers]

I will miss him,better player than people make out.

Yep, I will always remember him as a player forward of Defensive 50. He was good then.

 

[Kreuuuzeurns]

39 seems criminal. Richmond could’ve matched the offer and done a better trade.

Great to see though.

 

[Stevi_Tigers]

$ per year is significantly more important than length of the contract, and Rockliff was reportedly on ~$700k per year, so it makes sense why his compensation was higher. Though reportedly it was very close to a band 1. No idea on Motlop though.

There's also a chance that the reported contract in the media isn't entirely correct as well e.g. the reported figure might include incentives which aren't included in the compensation calculation.

Lycett 600x5 first round
Motlop 550 pick 19
Ellis 600x5 pick 39

The fix is in

 

[fargothegreat]

Irrespective of precedent.. Do Richmond supporters actually think they deserve pick 20 for Ellis?

No not worth pick 20. The frustration of Richmond fans stems from how the compo compares to the Motlop and Lycett deals.

39 is unders, but free agency compo isn't supposed to be 100% compensation for losing a player. It's more of an equalisation measure to make sure bottom clubs get decent picks for losing players (see Lynch leaving GC last year)

 

[Yamumluvsbigcox]

We were done the same in 2015 for scott selwood . 25years Vice captain of the club with a significant offer from geelong .
This was before the afl told you the compo before you matched or not . Bang pick 37 .

Heads up tuggers you won the flag got lynch for free last year .

 

[bird_man]

It suited the AFL agenda to give Geelong a pick to trade for Ablett. It suited the AFL not to give Richmond a higher pick, that's how it's done, what suits the AFL, surely you didn't expect it to be fair and level? You are a fool if you did

No, I didn't. Just wondering what their explanation would be if they were pressed.

 

[Peel67skin]

No not worth pick 20. The frustration of Richmond fans stems from how the compo compares to the Motlop and Lycett deals.

39 is unders, but free agency compo isn't supposed to be 100% compensation for losing a player. It's more of an equalisation measure to make sure bottom clubs get decent picks for losing players (see Lynch leaving GC last year)

I think 29 is his real worth but AFL is the boss and your recruiters can get cheap rookie pick and turn them into premiership players.

 

[Scorpus]

What's the bet the media has guessed both Lycett and Ellis are on the same contract, but are actually completely wrong as usual

 

[Bunk Moreland]

What a ******* disgrace. Making rules up as they go.

Something needs to be done about Gold Coast poaching all these Tiger players.

AFL is a joke.

It’s the AFL mate. There are no rules. They’re a law unto themselves.

 

[U2tigers]

Lycett 600x5 first round
Motlop 550 pick 19
Ellis 600x5 pick 39

The fix is in

Its disgraceful the AFL has let media types determine this.

 

[Tony Harrison]

39 seems criminal. Richmond could’ve matched the offer and done a better trade.

Great to see though.

No way we could match the offer as Ellis would probably take the deal and we don't have anywhere near the cap space to do it.
It's not exactly criminal as it's free agency, why should you get anything?, but it is inconsistent with previous instances as outlined many times in here.
If he wasn't a free agent I reckon we could've expected around pick 30+/- in a trade.

 

[Danog]

$ per year is significantly more important than length of the contract, and Rockliff was reportedly on ~$700k per year, so it makes sense why his compensation was higher. Though reportedly it was very close to a band 1. No idea on Motlop though.

There's also a chance that the reported contract in the media isn't entirely correct as well e.g. the reported figure might include incentives which aren't included in the compensation calculation.

Motlop was on $2 million over 4 years. $500k/year

Ellis is on $3 million over 5 years. $600k/year

One club needed a pick to satisfy Gold Coast for Ablett, and has long-time members and past players littering the AFL administration.

 

[Byron_Clanger]

Richmond got the best free agent since Buddy Franklin last year, so I guess this is their way of 'equalisation'

 

[Apex36]

Jamie Elliot is worth......

A lot more than he’ll get us in compensation if he leaves as a free agent. But you know, I’ve already accepted that he won’t get us much because of his injury history, despite being a star when fit.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

Buddy pick was an injustice. AFL read the air and swing the pendulum too far the wrong way after that. This is probably the first one around the mark

 

[kreglze]

Just get rid of compo all together, it's a farce.

If they must keep it then making players wages public may be a way for making it seems less rules on the run, although can't see that happening either.

 

[JasRulz63]

Motlop was on $2 million over 4 years. $500k/year

Ellis is on $3 million of 5 years. $600k/year

One club needed a pick to satisfy Gold Coast for Ablett, and has long-time members and past players littering the AFL administration.

My point is that we don't necessarily know that those are the correct figures or the make up of their contracts, we just know what's reported which could've come from agents (who are likely to give the media contract amounts that include incentives as it reflects better on themselves.

I agree that if the figures for both are correct, and that both reported figures have the same proportion as incentives and whatever else, then yes, there's something interesting going on.

 

[Johnny Bananas]

So much for the Richmond fans' predictions of an end of first round pick. But I think this just shows there is no consistency in sticking to a formula, it's at the AFLs discretion just like priority picks.

 

[Sector 7G]

Lycett 600x5 first round
Motlop 550 pick 19
Ellis 600x5 pick 39

The fix is in

Just righting a wrong from the past with the compensation given for Vickery.

 

[Lethality]

Uh when did you last get reamed by AFL?

When we lost Brando for Pick 39.