Oppo Camp Brodie Grundy (Traded to Melbourne 2022)

[magpies42]

brodie deals with more meaningful issues.....anyway, we should get back to the main point of discussion....whether we should have traded brodie to melbourne...it's a fascinating topic and i'd like to get to the answer as soon as possible.

I think we made the right decision given he didn’t want to take a pay cut. His position and attributes aren’t worth 900k, even at 2018 form.

He is a great player nonetheless. When he plays you only need on ruckman in the team, other teams need to combat him with two…so automatically you’re better off being able to field another runner.

 

[Markfs]

I think we made the right decision given he didn’t want to take a pay cut. His position and attributes aren’t worth 900k, even at 2018 form.

He is a great player nonetheless. When he plays you only need on ruckman in the team, other teams need to combat him with two…so automatically you’re better off being able to field another runner.

its all true and i just love hearing about him...tell me more

 

[jimmy35]

I think we made the right decision given he didn’t want to take a pay cut. His position and attributes aren’t worth 900k, even at 2018 form.

He is a great player nonetheless. When he plays you only need on ruckman in the team, other teams need to combat him with two…so automatically you’re better off being able to field another runner.

We’re in a much better team position by moving him on no doubt, even more so when we finish paying him, his departure and our additions and structure are much better now.

 

[legendstatus]

I saw the same old Grundy that frustrated me when at Pies, get possies but still unable to impact like a big power ruckman should. Headlines saying Grundy back to his best, really? then I’m comfortable for him to high five, carry on with immature gestures after goals and pull funny faces with dark glasses on after the match!


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[Finnishpie]

This is BF - not interested in complete stories - door stop news grabs - social media sensationalism is the go here

Only too true NMBB. And the world is dumber for it. LOL.

 

[Finnishpie]

No it won't. It's weighted to when Grundy was good. Do the last 3 years. That's more than adequate for a sample.

Go on then. Do the last 3 years. Don't do one game.

 

[Finnishpie]

Almond is not Soy

Oh, don't I know it!

What make me like this thread though is the selective memory.

Isn't it right that when the idea of trading Grundy was on the table, Mitchell deal was nowhere to be seen. This was basically the situation:

Grundy or McStay?

I personally didn't see how getting rid of Grundy was going to help our clearance problem since I rated him a much better ruck than Cameron. McStay I saw as a b-grade, 3rd string, forward, not good enough to displace Hipwood or Daniher, who are themselves not elite.

Suddenly everyone is acting as if we all knew Mitchell was coming to us, when he was a consequence of the great betrayal by Henry right at the death of the trade period.

Things turned out well, but a good result isn't always the consequence of great decisions. Just some good luck.

 

[TheGreatGrundy]

I saw the same old Grundy that frustrated me when at Pies, get possies but still unable to impact like a big power ruckman should. Headlines saying Grundy back to his best, really? then I’m comfortable for him to high five, carry on with immature gestures after goals and pull funny faces with dark glasses on after the match!


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As long as it's largely only the gestures, funny faces and choice of glasses, dark or otherwise, that have changed, and not so markedly his on field contributions, I won't lose too much sleep. If truth be told, I sleep so little that any addition to time spent rolling side to side, back to front, would be intolerable, so I beg the boy not to revisit pre covid days with his on field form.

I was distracted yesterday, and missed viewing much of the game, but it was the constant repetition of his name -'Grundy does this, Grundy does that' - that informed me that the man was recovering elements of himself I had believed were lost. I was certain that both our ruckmen going down motivated this step up in form, as Grundy realised that a lone spindly callow youth now carried the significant weight of expectation of the magpie army. He seems a man motivated by misfortune, determined to gather salt from the sweat of his labour and rub it into our wounds.

Hopefully, next week his lumbering clearance attempts will return, the ball will again slip through his outstretched arms and his kicks on goal will be as rare as hen's teeth. I wish to preserve only memories of greatness rather than suffer it re-birthing before my eyes.

 

[NMBB]

Oh, don't I know it!

What make me like this thread though is the selective memory.

Isn't it right that when the idea of trading Grundy was on the table, Mitchell deal was nowhere to be seen. This was basically the situation:

Grundy or McStay?

I personally didn't see how getting rid of Grundy was going to help our clearance problem since I rated him a much better ruck than Cameron. McStay I saw as a b-grade, 3rd string, forward, not good enough to displace Hipwood or Daniher, who are themselves not elite.

Suddenly everyone is acting as if we all knew Mitchell was coming to us, when he was a consequence of the great betrayal by Henry right at the death of the trade period.

Things turned out well, but a good result isn't always the consequence of great decisions. Just some good luck.

You seem to focus on players and trade value etc - at some stage you'll need to get back on topic - SOY, ALMOND, TOFU etc - these are brain foods needed to tackle mundane sh#te like football and clearances etc etc

PS - Apparently Tom Mitchell drinks Kopi Luwak

 

[Doc1763]

Whether Grundy is still a great player, or how well he goes at Melbourne, is completely irrelevant.

We had to get his contract off our books to get the list to where Fly & Wrighty wanted to get it.

I would rather he had been traded to a non-contender, but we were not in a position to control that.

I think we can see after 3 rounds that trading him out has been justified.

He is now just another opposition player, time to move on.

 

[Ugene41]

Oh, don't I know it!

What make me like this thread though is the selective memory.

Isn't it right that when the idea of trading Grundy was on the table, Mitchell deal was nowhere to be seen. This was basically the situation:

Grundy or McStay?

I personally didn't see how getting rid of Grundy was going to help our clearance problem since I rated him a much better ruck than Cameron. McStay I saw as a b-grade, 3rd string, forward, not good enough to displace Hipwood or Daniher, who are themselves not elite.

Suddenly everyone is acting as if we all knew Mitchell was coming to us, when he was a consequence of the great betrayal by Henry right at the death of the trade period.

Things turned out well, but a good result isn't always the consequence of great decisions. Just some good luck.

Finally someone gets it!

 

[Markfs]

POP QUIZ....

which is the worse long-term contract signing by a club.....brodie grundy

4

Brodie Grundy

Age

30

Ht

202cm

Wt

105kg

Pos.

Ruck

Career

Season

Last 5

D

17.5

4star

K

8.0

3star

HB

9.6

5star

CL

4.1

5star

HO

32.0

5star

D

16.4

4star

K

6.8

3star

HB

9.6

5star

CL

4.0

5star

HO

34.6

5star

D

13.8

4star

K

5.2

2star

HB

8.6

5star

CL

2.6

5star

HO

20.6

5star

or eric hipwood

30

Eric Hipwood

Age

27

Ht

203cm

Wt

94kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

10.0

3star

K

7.4

3star

HB

2.6

2star

M

3.9

4star

T

1.3

3star

G

1.5

5star

D

11.1

3star

K

8.4

3star

HB

2.7

2star

M

4.1

4star

T

1.1

2star

G

1.1

5star

D

10.6

3star

K

8.4

4star

HB

2.2

2star

M

3.6

4star

T

1.6

4star

G

2.4

5star

? I would argue hipwood. He's 25 and his best should be ahead of him but he is a downhill skiier...

 

[Bianconeri]

POP QUIZ....

which is the worse long-term contract signing by a club.....brodie grundy or eric hipwood? I would argue hipwood. He's 25 and his best should be ahead of him but he is a downhill skiier...

Unless the signing of Hipwood causes a salary cap debacle at Brisbane, it’s comfortably Grundy

 

[Markfs]

Unless the signing of Hipwood causes a salary cap debacle at Brisbane, it’s comfortably Grundy

well i suppose thats a wider issue and you're right there because the pies made the deal without caring much for the future... but on player value, I'd say hipwood because his deal is far more speculative

 

[TW Sherrin]

Go on then. Do the last 3 years. Don't do one game.

pass. if anyone reckons Grundy has been better than average for 3 years they are delusional.

 

[TW Sherrin]

seems some are still struggling with accepting why we were awful in clearances for years.

its not complicated. the answer is Grundy.

He now has a beast of clearance team (Oliver, Petracca, Viney) and his side is still can't win the clearance battle.

Clearance vs opponent
Melbourne
2021 +0.2 #8
2022 +1.2 #7
2023 -11.7 #18

Pies
2021 -1.5 #15
2022 -4.3 #16
2023 +4.7 #3


Melbourne with a midfield of bulls has gone from winning the clearance battle to dead last.

Collingwood have gone for being awful to +4.7 per game and 3rd best team.

What's the common denominator?

 

[Mollythedolly]

I think we made the right decision given he didn’t want to take a pay cut. His position and attributes aren’t worth 900k, even at 2018 form.

He is a great player nonetheless. When he plays you only need on ruckman in the team, other teams need to combat him with two…so automatically you’re better off being able to field another runner.

Wasn’t even asked according to Grundy. Apparently has taken a shave at the Dees.

 

[Mr Cannons]

Wasn’t even asked according to Grundy. Apparently has taken a shave at the Dees.

Goes to show how much they wanted him gone.

 

[Markfs]

seems some are still struggling with accepting why we were awful in clearances for years.

its not complicated. the answer is Grundy.

He now has a beast of clearance team (Oliver, Petracca, Viney) and his side is still can't win the clearance battle.

Clearance vs opponent
Melbourne
2021 +0.2 #8
2022 +1.2 #7
2023 -11.7 #18

Pies
2021 -1.5 #15
2022 -4.3 #16
2023 +4.7 #3


Melbourne with a midfield of bulls has gone from winning the clearance battle to dead last.

Collingwood have gone for being awful to +4.7 per game and 3rd best team.

What's the common denominator?

well i think those stats end the argument..... we can close the thread now

 

[Wearmouth]

Thank god for that! Now his season average for marks has been bumped up to 2 per game.

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Stats are always interpretive.

Generally speaking outliers like his 5 mark game are scrubbed when looking at a players REAL output.

Like last season when he barely took a mark and then had 6 or so against the Scum and increased his average to 2 for that period. When he was only managing less than a mark per game for that period.


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[Maggie5]

Did alright in my supercaoch team this week.

 

[CasuallyDressed]

Did alright in my supercaoch team this week.

I just brought him... so you better go ahead and trade him out now.

 

[TheGreatGrundy]

You seem to focus on players and trade value etc - at some stage you'll need to get back on topic - SOY, ALMOND, TOFU etc - these are brain foods needed to tackle mundane sh#te like football and clearances etc etc

PS - Apparently Tom Mitchell drinks Kopi Luwak

Hope Tom is on a salary with the club that allows him to imbibe at will on civet shit which I would imagine doesn't come cheaply, particularly once it arrives in what is possibly the world's most expensive country. I am at least heartened to know that the civets are apparently free ranged rather than caged, requiring, it seems, the freedom to roam and select for themselves the best beans on offer.

 

[NMBB]

Hope Tom is on a salary with the club that allows him to imbibe at will on civet s**t which I would imagine doesn't come cheaply, particularly once it arrives in what is possibly the world's most expensive country. I am at least heartened to know that the civets are apparently free ranged rather than caged, requiring, it seems, the freedom to roam and select for themselves the best beans on offer.

Civets entering free agency?

 

[Mostfamousclub_Pies]

Still can’t win a decisive hit out.