Bryce Gibbs staying at Carlton - Silvagni in the no blinking zone

[Stig O'Hara]

Question is....what do you really want

We want Eddie back.

 

[La Dispute]

Put it this way, you're Port Adelaide and Bryce Gibbs says he wants to join the club. Do you say no? I'm sure they would find a way to get him in with some help from us.

We won't be paying his entire contract and I live a straight edge life style. Son.

They might not want/need/have the cap space for him. If they wanted him, they would have flagged their interest by now.

What's not to understand?

 

[arsene wenger1]

Didn't Walker seek a trade a few years ago? Didn't seem to affect his relationship with the other fellas when it didn't come to fruition.
Or am I mis-remembering?

He actually nearly ended up at Adelaide funny enough.....decided to go with Tambling instead though


Okeefe is the one who tried to get to Collingwood. No deal was able to be made and he ended up playing in another premiership for sydney

 

[Ciccio]

Fox guys speculating Gibbs for this year's first rounder and next year's second.

Supposedly we want either of Cameron & McGovern, but they ain't budging.

I find it interesting that the two names we have supposedly initially asked for in Cameron and McGovern are both non Victorians .... it's as if we deliberately chose players that have no incentive or lure to come to Victoria?!

 

[Gingerbread man]

As previously stated:

The Gibbs deal will get done and it will be overs, even for a player of his age and talent. It will be done Monday/Tuesday

We will retain pick 5, while obtaining at least 3 players from GWS

Be patient people




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Mate no offence I have not been on BF that long, but do you know this or are you dreaming it up?

 

[Navara79]

Question is....what do you really want

Adelaide to play in the SANFL

 

[Soapy V]

If Tom Mitchell is essentially worth pick 14 then I think 13 for Gibbs is about right

Sounds fair


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[Blue_Fusion]

Ok here is what we know

Adelaide desperately want Gibbs
Port cant afford Gibbs
We want 1 of crows youngster Cameron, McGovern or Crouch boys
Adelaide dont want to give up any of their young talent but more to the point none of them want to come to Carlton.

Question is based on the above would we accept 2 first rounders and maybe a 2nd rounder for Gibbs?

Mate there is no way in hell that we'd get offered two 1sts and a 2nd.

And as for would we accept it? Well I'd accept it immediately.

 

[ESKIE]

Goreds was pretty much telling you that the window for the rebuild is smaller than you thought. Stop thinking beyond 2020, and start thinking before and you'll be less furious about us wanting more than #13 and some glitter for one of our best players.


The Age floated that we were after Lang or Cockatoo, he simply pointed out that Lang was the only one Geelong engaged in a serious discussion about, but he's supposedly not interested at the moment.


He's just not that good dude, and some of us have been pointing it out all year. He might even be worth less than 14 depending on the pick swaps that occur (I'd suggest the Hawks are looking to secure higher picks to replenish their list in a midfield heavy draft).


You've had another go at me here so I'll be clear: I'm only questioning the truth of the rumour, because it sounds plainly dumb for SOS to be chasing people all over the country during trade week. This is 2016 and people are a perfectly secure phone call away.

Further to this, SOS does modelling of all players in the AFL, and several other leagues. He had a valuation for Gibbs the minute the idea of this kind of trade popped into his head. What he may not have had is contact with Adelaide in a timely fashion, and contact with player agents over their willingness to be a part of a deal.

That's the only concern, and frankly for a 4th tall in their forward line or a midfielder who is getting replaced to reject us is them (or Adelaide) not facing reality. We get in the ball park of what we want or Bryce doesn't go, which seems to be the mood from both the club and Bryce's camp.

That's an apple Jim

 

[The Old Dark Navy's]

Didn't Walker seek a trade a few years ago? Didn't seem to affect his relationship with the other fellas when it didn't come to fruition.
Or am I mis-remembering?

Walker, Thornton, Russell. All stayed and played to the best of their ability. 2 if them were actually put into the leadership group afterwards.

 

[Blue_Fusion]

They might not want/need/have the cap space for him. If they wanted him, they would have flagged their interest by now.

What's not to understand?

Or rather, Bryce hasn't flagged any interest and so they haven't bothered.

What's not to understand?

 

[ESKIE]

If Tom Mitchell is essentially worth pick 14 then I think 13 for Gibbs is about right

Gibbs is contracted and a required player, big difference from T Mitchell

 

[TerryWallet]

Walker, Thornton, Russell. All stayed and played to the best of their ability. 2 if them were actually put into the leadership group afterwards.

And what a leadership group it was.

 

[goreds]

We don't have the forwards. Harry McKay is unknown. We are about eight midfielders short. The backline is about the only place that we have sorted.

Murphy and Simpson are on the way out. We have to stock up on the next three drafts with as much talent as we can.

Agreed but...

Speculative picks for B grade mids, which is what we will get with our picks, will not cut it...

13 is NOT a good pick, if it was do you think that SOS wouldn't have jumped on it straight away???

Pickett was a no 4 pick and yet he is labeled as lazy so he can't get a game. SOS rates him and Bolts thinks he can turn him around, that's much better than a speculative pick in my book...

2017 is the year to stock pile picks and go after a star...

 

[Jimmae]

Walker didn't tell them all to stay and stick it through and then decide to leave 2 years in to a 5 year deal. Different situation.

He's contradicted himself.

This is all about trying to facilitate family pressures, but there's more than one way to address that. I doubt his partner would begrudge another 2-6 years in Melbourne when she sat down and thought about it, especially if there's career success for Bryce.

If there isn't, well then I'm sure club and player will be happy to revisit this in a year or two. Adelaide need to pony up.

We don't have the forwards. Harry McKay is unknown. We are about eight midfielders short. The backline is about the only place that we have sorted.

Murphy and Simpson are on the way out. We have to stock up on the next three drafts with as much talent as we can.

McKay is not an unknown, simply yet to debut. They've had him in the club for 12 months and have seen how he adapts to what's asked of him. We absolutely have the forwards for 2 years from now, with Ben Silvagni coming in then too.

Here's what goreds is talking about:

FB: Byrne Marchbank Plowman
HB: Docherty Weitering Tuohy?
C: Cuningham Gibbs Simpson
HF: Buckley Stewart Sumner
FF: Silvagni McKay C.Curnow

R: Kreuzer Cripps Murphy

Int: E.Curnow, Pickett, <???>, <???>

Potential options on our list: Korcheck, Boekhorst, Wright, Glass-McCasker

Maybes: DVR, Kerridge, Sheehan, Gowers, Phillips, Jaksch, Armfield, Casboult, Rowe

Potential options that we're entertaining: A. Kennedy, Lang, Ahern, JO'M (can't rule this one out just yet), Hrovat, S. Lloyd, M. McGovern, C. Cameron, B. Crouch (can't rule this out yet, but we'll have to give something up)

Maybes: Lyons, Finlayson, Corr

If we get 3 or 4 of those potential options without haemorrhaging our draft position and only losing 1 or 2 players, we're ahead, and then we've got better results, 2 drafts and 2 free agency periods to further mould the list without diluting it.

Say it with me now: Gibbs for overs, Gibbs for overs, Gibbs for overs.

[douses an effigy of the Crows' mascot in petrol, lights a match and dances around the flames]

GIBBS FOR OVERS GIBBS FOR OVERS GIBBS FOR OVERS

[club starts to burn down]

GIBBS FOR OVERS GIBBS FOR OVERS GIBBS FOR OVERS

[sirens can be heard in the distance]

GIBBS FO... OHGOD WHATHAVEIDONE

 

[Stig O'Hara]

Reckon we just sit tight and wait for the Cows to blink.

 

[The Old Dark Navy's]

I won't be too fussed, although disappointed. But the thing I wonder about is how the club and Bryce will be scrutinised and lambasted in the media as being a shitshow if, after all this, he ends up staying. You can imagine all the big headlines and discussions with Slobbo on AFL360 - "Is there inner turmoil between Gibbs and the Blues?" "Have Carlton recovered from a poor situation only to have egg on their face" etc. It will be tripe, but it will be talked about nonetheless, and despite it ultimately having very little to no bearing on the club internally, it's another thing to shit the fans off with.

Negative comments about Gibbs leaving are easy to smack down - question marks if he says he wants to and doesn't will be a ****ight.

Shouldn't be a reflection on Carlton. We are showing strength. Adelaide have nailed their reputation to the mast over this since they announced it, are broadly thought to need a quality mid to win a flag but hadn't checked to see what the asking price was before announcing it.

 

[Jimmae]

That's an apple Jim

It's a peach (no, really).

 

[JustaBattler]

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You've had another go at me here so I'll be clear: I'm only questioning the truth of the rumour, because it sounds plainly dumb for SOS to be chasing people all over the country during trade week. This is 2016 and people are a perfectly secure phone call away.

Further to this, SOS does modelling of all players in the AFL, and several other leagues. He had a valuation for Gibbs the minute the idea of this kind of trade popped into his head. What he may not have had is contact with Adelaide in a timely fashion, and contact with player agents over their willingness to be a part of a deal.

That's the only concern, and frankly for a 4th tall in their forward line or a midfielder who is getting replaced to reject us is them (or Adelaide) not facing reality. We get in the ball park of what we want or Bryce doesn't go, which seems to be the mood from both the club and Bryce's camp.

I think SOS is smart enough to know where he should be is the only point I was making - sorry if you found that to be offensive.

 

[Jimmae]

I think SOS is smart enough to know where he should be is the only point I was making - sorry if you found that to be offensive.

I agree, which is why he'd be taking meetings in Melbourne.

 

[La Dispute]

Or rather, Bryce hasn't flagged any interest and so they haven't bothered.

What's not to understand?

You don't know that.

Keep speculating though.

 

[pjcrows]

Reckon we just sit tight and wait for the Cows to blink.

Out of curiosity what would us blinking entail?

 

[TerryWallet]

Reckon we just sit tight and wait for the Cows to blink.

Logical, yet radical idea.

 

[ShanDog]

Shouldn't be a reflection on Carlton. We are showing strength. Adelaide have nailed their reputation to the mast over this since they announced it, are broadly thought to need a quality mid to win a flag but hadn't checked to see what the asking price was before announcing it.

Shouldn't be, but since when does the media let an opportunity to sink the boots in pass?

 

[DaVillaBlues]

You know after all the crap Gibbs and his management have put us through in the past week (Marchbank and Pickett would have become Blues by now if not for The Glenelg Drama Queen) under no circumstances do i want the man with the My Little Pony hair cut back at this footy club.

If the poor darling had given the courtesy of a month's warning before deciding to jog on, we would have had time to make arrangements.

But nope, our whole trade period has been Joan Collinsed by the treasonous sudden desertion of My Little Brycie. He has to go,.