C Section Amateur Football

[greentree]

No No No Guru,

MISTAKE 1: Support a team like Parkdale. A team that will be languishing unfortunately in D1 or D2 in a few years. That is only because the club has nothing to feed on in terms of recruiting players. A pat on the back for the mid season revival but pull your head out of your butt and look at where you are really at

Bit harsh Big ( save that sort of stuff for RED )Parkdale is working hard to build a U19s team and to forge a relationship with local junior clubs.
Are you saying a local club should roll over and die just because they dont have a school behind them. I think you will find Parky will stick around, Have a good ground, good rooms, and good people behind them.
And after looking a bit shaky now are well in the mix for finals, can not see them beating St Bedes but I think one their day they could beat everyone else. Last 2 weeks have been real good, hope they can keep it up.

 

[Guru Joffa]

Totally agree greentree. Obviously you are someone with some intelligence who doesn't waste their posts!!

 

[scroda]

Back from a cracker of a game at EP today that saw the Tigers down the Jackas by 7 points (including a goal after the siren).

The game looked shot at half time with the Tigers comfortably leading by 3-4 goals. With the Jackas missing half a dozen from their starting 18 (including their two full forwards), having two go down in the game and playing four debutants, a four goal gap for the rest of the day would have been a courageous game for the jackas.

But battle they did and four goals in the second half of the third quarter saw ajax take a one point lead into the last quarter. We were set for a rip snorter. The tigers were looking tired.

The Tigers again pulled clear in the last quarter only for ajax to slam on two goals, one during time on, to take a one point lead. A point made it even and the ball was sent from half back line to half back line until the Tigers snapped another point to take the lead.

Two questions:
1) Is it true that Lewski had 53 posessions? What a game.
2) Can anyone remember three debutants each kicking goals with their first kicks in football all in the one game?

And a comment - The Tigers now know they have competition come September. They may not be so confident now.

 

[Bigfootyfan]

Back from a cracker of a game at EP today that saw the Tigers down the Jackas by 7 points (including a goal after the siren).

The game looked shot at half time with the Tigers comfortably leading by 3-4 goals. With the Jackas missing half a dozen from their starting 18 (including their two full forwards), having two go down in the game and playing four debutants, a four goal gap for the rest of the day would have been a courageous game for the jackas.

But battle they did and four goals in the second half of the third quarter saw ajax take a one point lead into the last quarter. We were set for a rip snorter. The tigers were looking tired.

The Tigers again pulled clear in the last quarter only for ajax to slam on two goals, one during time on, to take a one point lead. A point made it even and the ball was sent from half back line to half back line until the Tigers snapped another point to take the lead.

Two questions:
1) Is it true that Lewski had 53 posessions? What a game.
2) Can anyone remember three debutants each kicking goals with their first kicks in football all in the one game?

And a comment - The Tigers now know they have competition come September. They may not be so confident now.

The Tigers know there is competition but i think the weather levelled things a lot today. On a dry day things may have been different but Ajax played well but not well enough.

 

[overtheline]

Back from a cracker of a game at EP today that saw the Tigers down the Jackas by 7 points (including a goal after the siren).

The game looked shot at half time with the Tigers comfortably leading by 3-4 goals. With the Jackas missing half a dozen from their starting 18 (including their two full forwards), having two go down in the game and playing four debutants, a four goal gap for the rest of the day would have been a courageous game for the jackas.

But battle they did and four goals in the second half of the third quarter saw ajax take a one point lead into the last quarter. We were set for a rip snorter. The tigers were looking tired.

The Tigers again pulled clear in the last quarter only for ajax to slam on two goals, one during time on, to take a one point lead. A point made it even and the ball was sent from half back line to half back line until the Tigers snapped another point to take the lead.

Two questions:
1) Is it true that Lewski had 53 posessions? What a game.
2) Can anyone remember three debutants each kicking goals with their first kicks in football all in the one game?

And a comment - The Tigers now know they have competition come September. They may not be so confident now.

Excellent summary. I thought Bloom was their regular full forward and he played? Even if Lewski's numbers are slightly out, it begs the question why did Beveridge leave him unchecked all day? Didn't he notice him?
Is it true the Jacka's coach has resigned(effectively immediately) due to a change in employment? Can anyone confirm or deny?

 

[SweetMeats]

don't get too ahead of yourself guru. yes the reds had a shocker and you played the wet far better but keep in mind you only played against 6 or 7
regular senior players on saturday.

 

[Scribe]

don't get too ahead of yourself guru. yes the reds had a shocker and you played the wet far better but keep in mind you only played against 6 or 7
regular senior players on saturday.

From an objective point of view, I think you should also keep in mind:

1. the Reds lost 101 to 38 on a day when the sides who were willing to play tough committed team footy would always prevail.

2. Accordingly to the Reds' coaching staff, the middle rounds were to be where they made their surge. This clearly hasn't occurred.

3. the run home for the Reds includes games against 3 sides above them in STBMT, Ormond and Monash. The others are Hampton, NOBSPC and Old Camberwell.

4. If Reds can't win 4 of their remaining six, which means beating all those below and prevailing against (realistically) either Ormond or Monash, then they won't finish in the finals. As it stands, something must change in order for a top 4 spot to be achieved, as the narrow win over Parade coupled with the last two losses points to a team on the slide.

5. On the other hand, at least two wins will be required in order to avoid the trapdoor back to D Section. Wins over NOBSPC and Hampton are a must.

May I suggest a modicum of reason and a touch of humility be taken prior to posting this week? Mobbs tends to err on this side, and I find him to be the most reasonable of Redders posters.

Cheers

Scribe

 

[THE BEACON]

Red Roy waiting for your unbiased match report of the Tigers v Jackas match or did you have other commitments!!

 

[Red Roy]

"As for the Sullivan lads who the infamous Red Roy and others have been keen to criticise since their inclusion in the best 'C' Grade Team at the Half Way Mark. Bet you'd love to have them running around for you at Brunswick Street? Yet another game where they smashed the opposition!!"

Guru - if you read my pre-game post on this game I actually say that Parkdales most dangersous Player is P. Sullivan and that the Reds would have to watch him closely. I also say that the red actually likes Parkdale but I expected Reds to win. If you read my post match report I actually give some credit to Parkdale. I understand that some of my reporting tends to upset the odd person but on this occassion I must protest my innocence!!!

I see local boy was also very fired up after my post. Red may be from the north but after some of the by - play between Richard Clay Thorpedoes (from tigerland) and LB I think everyone on big footy knows who local boy is, no need to gloat about yourself quite so much is their LB??

As for Burgos absence, I have since found out that he was O/S with work committments and thus unable to attend. A significant blow for the Reds.

Enough of that - Red doens't normally feel the need to justify himself but on this occassion it was clearly required!!!

As for yesterday, well Red clocked up the frequent flyer points and headed south again, (i am thinking of billing big footy for my petrol bill) to see the much anticipated 1 v 2 clash. The jackas looked to be in trouble with an array of regulars out including the pacy ritterman adn the Tigers began well. Red was disapointed that no Tigers supporters sought him out for a pre-game autograph as offered, anyway...........

A cracking game given the conditions and the jackas were dead set stiff not to get over the line. What they did do though was expose the Tigers vulnerabilty on big grounds for all to see.

As for the Brunswick Boys - I see Scribe has done his sums and painted the picture - good to see they still teach people to count at Trinity. Reds will play finals, put about 12 players back into our line up (which is happening in the next couple of weeks) and we will return to the winners circle.

Already looking foward to two weeks time.

That is all.

The Red

 

[Guru Joffa]

Valid points you all make, however, please keep in mind that I am throwing my support behind a club who have copped a fair bit of unwarranted posts leading up to this point of the season.

Like all teams who go out and play on a weekly basis, they are to be congratulated. I am certainly not getting ahead of myself and acknowledge that there are some quality football teams going around at the minute, suffice to say, that my summation of the game at Gerry Green Reserve must have been correct given other posts who also concurred with my views.

 

[Three Malugas]

Back from a cracker of a game at EP today that saw the Tigers down the Jackas by 7 points (including a goal after the siren).

The game looked shot at half time with the Tigers comfortably leading by 3-4 goals. With the Jackas missing half a dozen from their starting 18 (including their two full forwards), having two go down in the game and playing four debutants, a four goal gap for the rest of the day would have been a courageous game for the jackas.

But battle they did and four goals in the second half of the third quarter saw ajax take a one point lead into the last quarter. We were set for a rip snorter. The tigers were looking tired.

The Tigers again pulled clear in the last quarter only for ajax to slam on two goals, one during time on, to take a one point lead. A point made it even and the ball was sent from half back line to half back line until the Tigers snapped another point to take the lead.

Two questions:
1) Is it true that Lewski had 53 posessions? What a game.
2) Can anyone remember three debutants each kicking goals with their first kicks in football all in the one game?

And a comment - The Tigers now know they have competition come September. They may not be so confident now.

Also saw the game. Evidently they counted Lewski's kick ins. The Tigers kicked 18 points again. The Tigers inaccuracy continues to plague them. What will happen if they start to ice them? Tigers clearly won the last quarter. They kicked 2 goals 8 to 2 straight and had all the control. They than had the ability to still come back after the jackers hit the front in time on. This included kicking three points stright, not two. Of which one hit the post. Great game by both sides. Tigers were evidently close to full strength which is a good sign for the jackers if they had all those players out.

 

[NBULTY]

don't get too ahead of yourself guru. yes the reds had a shocker and you played the wet far better but keep in mind you only played against 6 or 7
regular senior players on saturday.

Hey SweetMeats, it's hardly Parkdale's fault that the Red's have no depth! Every team at this time of year is missing players who would usually walk straight into the starting 18. Injuries are not an excuse!

 

[Keen Observer]

Very poor performance from NOBSPC on Saturday - not one player, official or supporter attended the post match drinks.
Very un-NOBs like !!

 

[GetSmart]

Great game of football at Elstrenwick yesterday. Competiton continues to grasp at straws for the SBMT to fail. Agree with Three Malugas Tigers ability came through to win. Elsternwick is the Jackers home ground and they had it all for them yesterday. Heavy track and home ground advanatge.

On paper they lost the first, second and fourth quarters. The last with 10 shots to 2.

I think that Sandy will suit the tigers a lot more than the conditions of yesterday.

 

[The Hunting Coach]

With the inclement weather on the weekend. I have to think which club has the best away changerooms?

Some are quite small and let a nasty draft in. Yet some are massive, and some have heaters.

Personally i beleive that the students at Monsash have a pretty good set-up. The heaters would have been a nice addition to have with a weekend like the one just past.

 

[Son of a Gun]

Well please St Bedes you must win today, I don't want to have to drop my dacks!

More the point, youse lot wouldn't want me to drop my dacks!

Attn Red Roy, never mind the 1HWs, very reminiscent of some Prahran fans last year, sit in the shadows until the Reds have one loss then come in for their one post in a year as if that they've been there through thick and thin Maybe if they weren't so Reds this Reds that, they might find time to actually support their own team rather than apport another's Belsar Island in drought comes to mind Roy.


This is my favourite :

I just fail to work out where you get your information, feller

Sorry, just saw it was trumped by

Interesting! Lets just do everything this sudden arrival tells us to do, including believe consolidation is a shocking season!

C'arn St Bedes, keep my dacks on, otherwise it'll be hell in here!

(Yes Maghamez is on Willy list, but this must be almost first time this year he's been called up. Him, Dullard and some1 else are on their list. I think he played about matches last year)

Mobbs, easy to take one line from someone's post and "think" you are making a good point (see below). My comments are spot on (whether I've posted once, twice or 50 times on this thread) re Red Roy's statement about moving on to ultimate glory this year. I think I made the same point in May on this thread but guess you were on a roll with your 1HW's. Also, couldn't support my team on the weekend as they had the week off.

If I started talking up premierships in pre season and continued on with this when my side's been given a hiding and sitting not far from the drop zone I'd expect people to jump on my back.

Never suggested consolidation is not a good result after promotion unless of course someone's (read Red Roy) said you will take all before you in C grade. If that's the case then failing to make the GF (maybe not even the finals or staying in the grade) then it is a "shocking season".

I've got nothing against the Reds, well coached, good list and a club fielding teams at all levels. They are going places but not this year.

Is this your quote:
“I....want to…..drop my dacks…More the point, youse….want me to drop my dacks!

 

[Mobbs]

From an objective point of view, I think you should also keep in mind:

1. the Reds lost 101 to 38 on a day when the sides who were willing to play tough committed team footy would always prevail.

2. Accordingly to the Reds' coaching staff, the middle rounds were to be where they made their surge. This clearly hasn't occurred.

3. the run home for the Reds includes games against 3 sides above them in STBMT, Ormond and Monash. The others are Hampton, NOBSPC and Old Camberwell.

4. If Reds can't win 4 of their remaining six, which means beating all those below and prevailing against (realistically) either Ormond or Monash, then they won't finish in the finals. As it stands, something must change in order for a top 4 spot to be achieved, as the narrow win over Parade coupled with the last two losses points to a team on the slide.

5. On the other hand, at least two wins will be required in order to avoid the trapdoor back to D Section. Wins over NOBSPC and Hampton are a must.

May I suggest a modicum of reason and a touch of humility be taken prior to posting this week? Mobbs tends to err on this side, and I find him to be the most reasonable of Redders posters.

Cheers

Scribe

Hard to fault, Scribe, apart from two points :

... as the narrow win over Parade coupled with the last two losses points to a team on the slide.

Note that the 'last two losses' did include a narrow loss to AJAX. You could state instead that "the narrow loss to AJAX coupled with the wide loss to Parkdale."

The other point is this :

May I suggest a modicum of reason and a touch of humility be taken prior to posting this week? Mobbs tends to err on this side, and I find him to be the most reasonable of Redders posters.

Remember that I am a mod on this board and as such must show more decorum than I would otherwise like to. Sometimes it really hurts. Rest assured that in other circumstances I'd be an utter tool

PS : To the Parky fans, yeah they'd been given little to no chance at the start of the season, and in the early rounds, but have recently fired right up. Credit where due, they've been winning a lot of matches recently, and some of them very, very well. You're on a good thing and should be comfortable with their performance. Sounds like they smashed the Reds, and notwithstanding any outside influences, a win's a win and we (the Reds) didn't. Congrats.

 

[Mobbs]

Thanks Son Of A Gun, appreciate the clarification. Just irks me when folk stay silent and wait for deeds to be done before commenting, instead of putting themselves out there. At least Roy makes his calls, whether they're right or wrong.

Technically :

reminder to Red Roy and the other Fitzroy Reds supporters who continually bag all other teams

As Red Roy is pretty much the only one who 'bags' other clubs, 'other Fitzroy Reds supporters' must refer to all Reds fans, not just the ones who bag other clubs. So

Don't come up 'here' claiming you are everything, when clearly you are not!!

is therefore going to be an frail comment from my point of view.

Then

Either way, you won't make the GF so it is a shocking season whichever way you look at it.

would be a quite appropriate sentence, as you argue, if it did not have whichever way you look at it. in it! See where I'm coming from?

Agreed that context is a wonderful thing. I think it was Bigfooty fan who back in May said that Reds would make the GF (tho not win it, but I could leave that bit out for effect). And earlier, it was Roy who said St Bedes would take the flag.

I still don't think your comments are "spot on". Its by no means a shocking season as consolidation is the intention. Scribe himself quoted that Reds brains trust as that being the case. I said the same thing.

Maybe I have the gripe wrongly labelled here. Maybe I'm just spewing you've cast all reds fans per generalisation as believing that C Grade is their oyster.

They are going places but not this year. Fair call. And they dacks spin was platinum Thank god for St Bedes.

 

[pazza]

Yesterday's game was easily the best game I have done for the year in terms of quality. It was as good as any A or B Grade game I have done in the last 5 years.

Lewski and Anstey were everywhere all day. I rewckon about 100 touches between them (not counting Lewski's kick-ins!)

Excellent crowd at HQ. 600+. Sone A Grade games don't get that (and it was a lot larger than the crowd at the State Game on the Saturday!)

Speaking to a couple of Ajax and St. Bedes officials afterwards, we agreed that the Jackas now know where they are at (apparently they 14 down on their best side yesterday), whereas St. Bedes were happy to have a hard fought win, something they hadn't had and will stand them in good stead (they were about half a dozen short of their best too was the mail I got).

 

[overtheline]

"As for the Sullivan lads who the infamous Red Roy and others have been keen to criticise since their inclusion in the best 'C' Grade Team at the Half Way Mark. Bet you'd love to have them running around for you at Brunswick Street? Yet another game where they smashed the opposition!!"

Guru - if you read my pre-game post on this game I actually say that Parkdales most dangersous Player is P. Sullivan and that the Reds would have to watch him closely. I also say that the red actually likes Parkdale but I expected Reds to win. If you read my post match report I actually give some credit to Parkdale. I understand that some of my reporting tends to upset the odd person but on this occassion I must protest my innocence!!!

I see local boy was also very fired up after my post. Red may be from the north but after some of the by - play between Richard Clay Thorpedoes (from tigerland) and LB I think everyone on big footy knows who local boy is, no need to gloat about yourself quite so much is their LB??

As for Burgos absence, I have since found out that he was O/S with work committments and thus unable to attend. A significant blow for the Reds.

Enough of that - Red doens't normally feel the need to justify himself but on this occassion it was clearly required!!!

As for yesterday, well Red clocked up the frequent flyer points and headed south again, (i am thinking of billing big footy for my petrol bill) to see the much anticipated 1 v 2 clash. The jackas looked to be in trouble with an array of regulars out including the pacy ritterman adn the Tigers began well. Red was disapointed that no Tigers supporters sought him out for a pre-game autograph as offered, anyway...........

A cracking game given the conditions and the jackas were dead set stiff not to get over the line. What they did do though was expose the Tigers vulnerabilty on big grounds for all to see.

As for the Brunswick Boys - I see Scribe has done his sums and painted the picture - good to see they still teach people to count at Trinity. Reds will play finals, put about 12 players back into our line up (which is happening in the next couple of weeks) and we will return to the winners circle.

Already looking foward to two weeks time.

That is all.

The Red

Hey Roy, is TD back this week? He will be needed and the willy boys after saturday! Anyone confirm or deny that the Jackas coach has/is quitting?

 

[Three Malugas]

Yesterday's game was easily the best game I have done for the year in terms of quality. It was as good as any A or B Grade game I have done in the last 5 years.

Lewski and Anstey were everywhere all day. I rewckon about 100 touches between them (not counting Lewski's kick-ins!)

Excellent crowd at HQ. 600+. Sone A Grade games don't get that (and it was a lot larger than the crowd at the State Game on the Saturday!)

Speaking to a couple of Ajax and St. Bedes officials afterwards, we agreed that the Jackas now know where they are at (apparently they 14 down on their best side yesterday), whereas St. Bedes were happy to have a hard fought win, something they hadn't had and will stand them in good stead (they were about half a dozen short of their best too was the mail I got).

Good post......Hard to believe that the Jackers had 14 out. If they had 14 out their twos would have got smashed and they didn't. Ajax didn't seem to have anyone that could take the big grabs like those Wintles who were affected by the wet conditions. Also that kid 18 the Tigers put into the ruck in the last quarter looked really good as well.

 

[pazza]

He was up forward early on and got a couple in the first term I think.

Looked like Jackas got a couple of lads up from their 19's (#52 I'm sure was 1 of those - saw him a month ago at the Saturday night 19's game).

Thankfully the rain held off basically long enough to get the game through. Good call re: the Wintles. Luke seemed to take a lot of marks at CHB in particular.

One thing that the "Split Round" does is that the umps from A and B come down and help out. Good to have, particularly for a match like that.

All up, I think I've had 3 Ajax matches at home in C this year. The question has to be asked - who will the 6 day break hurt the most...Ajax (who head to the Brunswick glue-pot) or St. Bedes, who host Parkdale at home in a huge local derby. I can't pick it.

 

[goallinegg]

He was up forward early on and got a couple in the first term I think.

Hes name Porter, did pretty well for a bloke who didnt much sleep on firday night!

and as for those umpires! A grade?! you have got to be kidding me. One of the worst performances of the men in white i have ever seen. One of them did not pay one free kick in the last qtr. I tell ya weak.

 

[goallinegg]

adding to thing about the umpires, it seems they are trying to make stbedes lose with the lob sided free kick count.

 

[Red Roy]

Hey Roy, is TD back this week? He will be needed and the willy boys after saturday! Anyone confirm or deny that the Jackas coach has/is quitting?

I bloody hope the Great Backman is bact OTL !!!. I can't confirm or deny same. He was sadly missed, without him on the gound and burgo on the sideline we looked like a rudderless ship out there.

As for the Ajax coach pulling the pin - no news from reds spies on that one - seriously doubt it though. Why would you leave a team that is destined for a Grand Final!