Official Club Stuff Carlton Academy - Next Gen & Father/Son/Daughter Discussion

[RedmanWasHere]

Think of it this way.

GC: Twelve 17yo born in the Jan-Apr 1992 window in 2009.
GWS: Same but for 1993 in 2010.
Tassie: Ditto but for 2009 in 2026.

Tassie can sign mature agers during the H/A season be they Tassie folk or mainlanders.

Tassie can't enter the 2026 AFLM draft but can get the first 5 picks in the RD provided this remains the way.

The Devils can use the selected rookies for retention, elevation or deletion.

Just Kreuzing.

2027 is Tassie's first ND to run amok.

 

[Pixelshooter]

So are the Campo twins actually any good? Where would they go in the draft if they weren't father/son picks?

 

[marcmurphy3]

So are the Campo twins actually any good? Where would they go in the draft if they weren't father/son picks?

Ben 25-40
Lucas 45-rookie

Though I think we have done a few things to lower their value. Neither played the back half of the season. Both could have played more sanfl senior/ reserves games.

Given their lack of playing time post championships I would guess the club has already guaranteed them a list spot and told them to shut up shop to reduce their cost.

They'll be great value for what we get them and we'll manipulate our draft hand to maximise that advantage.

I wouldn't expect them to come in and change our fortunes next year but few draftees do.

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

So are the Campo twins actually any good? Where would they go in the draft if they weren't father/son picks?

Imagine JSOS in the form of a midfielder. Neither will ever be the most talented players on their team but work hard and play the game the right way.

Ben's kicking is very ordinary but is defensively elite.

 

[El Topo]

Ben's draft reports sound a bit like Josh Dunkley

5

Josh Dunkley

Age

27

Ht

191cm

Wt

87kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

21.8

5star

K

10.4

4star

HB

11.3

5star

M

4.3

4star

T

5.8

5star

CL

3.2

5star

D

20.7

5star

K

7.0

3star

HB

13.7

5star

M

2.3

2star

T

5.3

5star

CL

2.7

4star

D

14.2

4star

K

7.2

3star

HB

7.0

5star

M

4.8

5star

T

4.0

5star

CL

1.4

4star

 

[teagueyubeauty]

Ben's draft reports sound a bit like Josh Dunkley

5

Josh Dunkley

Age

27

Ht

191cm

Wt

87kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

21.8

5star

K

10.4

4star

HB

11.3

5star

M

4.3

4star

T

5.8

5star

CL

3.2

5star

D

20.7

5star

K

7.0

3star

HB

13.7

5star

M

2.3

2star

T

5.3

5star

CL

2.7

4star

D

14.2

4star

K

7.2

3star

HB

7.0

5star

M

4.8

5star

T

4.0

5star

CL

1.4

4star

A bit? Identical if you ask me

He’s definitely in the frame to replace Hewitt at some stage and should be the defined role he’s tagged (no pun intended) for.


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[WalshistheGOAT]

A bit? Identical if you ask me

He’s definitely in the frame to replace Hewitt at some stage and should be the defined role he’s tagged (no pun intended) for.


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Not as fast as Dunkley but very similar.

 

[Bletch]

Ben's kicking isn't great, but he's brilliant by hand. Also seems to have a good footy brain. Knows where to go, and racks up possessions. If he was cleaner by foot, and a yard quicker, he'd be at the pointy end of the draft.

 

[BlueLocke]

Spoke to someone who has a bit to do with an opposition SANFL club and chatted about the Campo’s, well Ben anyway.

Described him as having elite ‘timing’. Just right place, right time player. No outstanding strengths but no real weaknesses. Said they put a bit of time trying to limit his output in an 18s game and he just blew them away. Didn’t seem to think his pace would be an issue at AFL level; he was a Bombers fan and said he’d happily have him on their list.

 

[Blue and Silver]

Ben's a good footballer, not much more to it.

Limited with his kicking (although he gets reasonable distance). I don't think he'll have any trouble converting to AFL pace. Has the mind for it

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[Jimmae]

Imagine JSOS in the form of a midfielder. Neither will ever be the most talented players on their team but work hard and play the game the right way.

Ben's kicking is very ordinary but is defensively elite.

The only thing stopping Jack from playing on-ball is one Patrick Cripps.

We honestly could have even rolled the dice years ago if we were remotely adventurous.

 

[marcmurphy3]

I don't think Ben's kicking will be a problem considering the role he'll be playing. Should be groomed as the Hewett / Cripps replacement inside mid extractor.

 

[gbatman]

I really rate Ben, I don't think his kicking is terrible. I like his size, athleticism, how he reads things at stoppages and his clean hands and strong tackling. Seems to also have an outside game. Ticks a lot of boxes. Lucas has a bit of work to do, particularly with kicking, he's very outside so he needs to be really damaging. I think both have decent footy IQ. We will just have to wait and see.

 

[BlueJet]

I've felt that Ben was being overrated earlier this year but is now underrated due to an aesthetically displeasing yet functional, kicking action.
If you're looking for a finisher, he's probably not your guy but I wouldn't bet against him making it as a mid where his smarts & clean hands will benefit the side.

 

[JJBagger]

I've felt that Ben was being overrated earlier this year but is now underrated due to an aesthetically displeasing yet functional, kicking action.
If you're looking for a finisher, he's probably not your guy but I wouldn't bet against him making it as a mid where his smarts & clean hands will benefit the side.

Father sons who aren’t projected to go in the top 10 generally get underrated by rival clubs. I’ve had people who follow the draft closely tell me if it was an open draft, Ben could go as high as 15-18, but won’t because he’s tied to a club, and isn’t considered an elite talent

 

[Coops93]

Ben 25-40
Lucas 45-rookie

Though I think we have done a few things to lower their value. Neither played the back half of the season. Both could have played more sanfl senior/ reserves games.

Given their lack of playing time post championships I would guess the club has already guaranteed them a list spot and told them to shut up shop to reduce their cost.

They'll be great value for what we get them and we'll manipulate our draft hand to maximise that advantage.

I wouldn't expect them to come in and change our fortunes next year but few draftees do.

I think both are actually better than their draft rankings, not top top 5/10 but I think Ben is somewhere from 13-20 in reality and Lucas 30-45/50.

I know there's a fair range there but this is a competitive draft, and once you get to pick 30 there's not a big gap from pick 30 to pick 50 a lot of the time.

 

[Blue Bloods]

Is there a chance SOS will bid on Ben with their pick 26 in the draft and if so will we match that bid?

 

[mochacinolatte]

Is there a chance SOS will bid on Ben with their pick 26 in the draft and if so will we match that bid?

Maybe, who knows.

 

[marcmurphy3]

Is there a chance SOS will bid on Ben with their pick 26 in the draft and if so will we match that bid?

SOS is not that resentful. There is a chance any club could bid for Ben at 26 because he is well worth that pick.

That said, we'll make sure our picks either land just before a bid or well after to maximise value so we'll get him for a bargain whatever the case.

 

[The Bighouse]

‘It’d be pretty cool to repay them’: Call still ‘up in the air’, but Blues father-son guns keen to ‘carry on the name’

‘Pretty cool to repay them’: Star father-son twins keen to ‘carry on the name’… but call still ‘up in the air’

www.foxsports.com.au

 

[mjonc43]

‘It’d be pretty cool to repay them’: Call still ‘up in the air’, but Blues father-son guns keen to ‘carry on the name’

‘Pretty cool to repay them’: Star father-son twins keen to ‘carry on the name’… but call still ‘up in the air’

www.foxsports.com.au

I guess we will nominate them this coming week?

 

[The Bighouse]

I guess we will nominate them this coming week?

Yep, don’t want to be seen to be keen. Pretty sure they already know but playing the game.

 

[Coona Blues]

‘It’d be pretty cool to repay them’: Call still ‘up in the air’, but Blues father-son guns keen to ‘carry on the name’

‘Pretty cool to repay them’: Star father-son twins keen to ‘carry on the name’… but call still ‘up in the air’

www.foxsports.com.au

Geez, I hope Lucas can make it as a footy player. Academically challenged if we take a line through the board displayed. (Brighton not Brigthon) bloody autocorrect editted

 

[Bfevola]

Are we even going to nominate both of them. Article today saying they want to play with Carlton but we are yet to nominate them.

 

[Aphrodite]

Campo twins will be on CH7 news sports soon.