That fella from Prendercast proposed t-shirts like this but saying Weitering & Hollands & Docherty & Acres. Would buy one
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That fella from Prendercast proposed t-shirts like this but saying Weitering & Hollands & Docherty & Acres. Would buy one
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Exactly. Don't report what the positive stuff was when you can start a scrub fire suggesting media are negative & anti-Carlton.
Whateley on guesSEN talking about Harry potentially going to another club for more money/ change of scenery.
Does he not realise Harry is contracted for 5 years and would cost a kings ransom to pry him out of Carlton.
Wtf are these guys on about? Surely they meant Ben
Does he not realise Harry is contracted for 5 years and would cost a kings ransom to pry him out of Carlton.
Wtf are these guys on about? Surely they meant Ben
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What I said is exactly right. Here is the direct quote that I was referring to:
"He's not just the outside player that we saw and have come to know in his early years. He's now adding elements to his game. He's not just getting the ball given to him now, he's winning it on his own".
The fact is that Sam Walsh has been averaging around 10 contested possessions a game since his rookie year. To suggest that he used to "get the ball given to him" shows me that Buckley has either chosen to mislead people or he hasn't watched Sam's early career.
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The bloke he was talking to mis-named Ben as Harry at least 3 times. There seems to be this unspoken agreement among sport's commentators not to correct fellow callers for some bizarre reason. I was waiting for Whateley to pick him up but he didn't. Confusing.
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They said H but were talking about Ben.
thylacine60
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It's a talk show, not a documentary. What do you expect? Word perfect opinion to line up with your own justifiably heightened impressions of Carlton players? This media commentary discordance is just beyond strange.
Think the same thing happened last night on AFL 360 when Robbo called McGovern Curnow in the Acres sequence. Whateley didn't correct him.
bradfisher14
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I expect better from experts. They have a team of researchers and producers behind them that can provide them the correct information.
Why do you have such an issue with me holding a media personality to account when they say something that is obviously inaccurate?
An excellent article.On last Friday and the Vossification of the CFC:
Acting tough never beats being tough during finals footy
Melbourne spent too much time trying to hurt Carlton’s players instead of winning the ball themselves. You can’t do that and get away with it in finals footy, writes Craig O’Donoghue.thewest.com.au
I can't help but relating it to Voss himself in Carltons mindset and approach, vs Melbourne and its approach, and boiling it down to a single, infamous incident that I'm sure everyone has seen.
This game is across 4 qtrs what the Voss vs Burns incident was in a matter of seconds. Burns wants to be fake tough and give Voss a late, high bump. Voss gets up in an instant and creates a goal only seconds later. One faux tough taking a cheap shot at the captain, the other showing real toughness, brushing it off and setting up the goal.
This Carlton side are seemingly made of the Voss school of toughness, lead ably on field by Cripps who has been that way himself his whole career with his deputy in Docherty perhaps being toughest man in the league.
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For me, it's good as a novelty thing that I don't mind listening to bits and pieces of after a game. During games, I prefer an unbiased commentary that focuses on the game as a whole. I couldn't listen to that sort of calling of the game week in, week out.
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Well yeah, it's a show produced by the co-broadcaster and hosted by former footballers. I'd expect them to know what they are talking about when it comes to players they choose to highlight.
I watch a lot of NFL coverage. Those guys have to have a clue about 1696 players across the league. They know whether defensive linemen have weaknesses off their left leg or right leg, whether to attack them off their left shoulder or right shoulder.
MLB is even more involved.
I don't think it is a lot to ask for a footy scribe to watch 9 games per week and understand that a player is an inside/outside midfielder who has plenty of ball winning ability.
This ain't no Mickey Mouse league after all. I think criticism of a product is perfectly allowable. How do they improve if not for public sentiment?
thylacine60
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It's your opinion against his. It's ok. If you want perfection from media pundits, you'll be permanently frustrated.
I dont think you can object to the idea Walsh was known as a hard running outside player more so than a contested ball winner until recently.
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I'd suggest you get more frustrated by people posting their opinions about media, than we get by discussing it.
Huge difference between perfection and knowing that a player has always won his own ball.
It's not really a battle of opinions either. In fact, Walsh was more contested in his first season than he has been this year. An endurance athlete like Walsh gets deep in defence to help out. He's always provided cover for us defensively. He's not lurking on the outside waiting for a handball. Very much see ball, get ball.
Tom Morris (on Whateley) said Harry about 5 times in 2 minutes when he clearly meant Ben.
A nice pair of articles today - one of which underlines the amazing comeback that is our 2023 second half. Almost feel bad for GWS that we've taken a 78-year achievement and gone one better in the same year haha
www.afl.com.au
Jungle drums beating about Payne, which is good news for us. Might just flip the script for Charlie/H allowing one or both to get free and kick a bag.
www.afl.com.au
Greatest comeback ever? Blues, Giants break VFL/AFL record
The Giants and Blues both snapped a 78-year record in the one season with their impressive winning runs leading them to preliminary finals
www.afl.com.au
Jungle drums beating about Payne, which is good news for us. Might just flip the script for Charlie/H allowing one or both to get free and kick a bag.
Payne management: Lions say they can cover injured key back
Brisbane believe they can handle the loss of Jack Payne should the defender be ruled out of its preliminary final against Carlton
www.afl.com.au
He hasn’t even rolled over onto his new contract yet.
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anti-carlton agenda at play!!!!
I read an interview with him and I was surprised. I thought he signed that contract years ago. They say a week is a long time in politics. I think a week is an eternity in footy.
source?
Not exactly, though. The NFL broadcasters essentially work the week of the games in the city of the game and have meetings with coaches, players etc several times. They have researchers and the commentators themselves meet with them. Some of them even have their own travelling analytics teams as opposed to using generic ones. So they have great in depth knowledge of those playing their specific games that week, and some of that knowledge of course carries over, but they don't necessarily have to have the knowledge of some 1700 players in the league, but rather a lot of research in the specific game they're covering that week.
Having said that though your point is absolutely right, it really isn't that much to expect commentators only covering 9 games a week to have similar levels of insight. But when you have the major broadcaster not even bother to send the commentary teams interstate I'm not sure you can expect that same level of insight.
It's cheap, money saving bare minumum kind of stuff but that's all you get when you have just 1 pay TV & 1 FTA. The NFL, other US sports and Soccer have many different broadcasters competing with eachother, the AFL have 2 that have a monopoly on the industry. Why bother spending anything to improve it when there's no competition.
The recent rug pulling negotiation tactics by the AFL gifting 7 the rights shows it's all about the boys club.
Robbo makes so many mistakes that correcting him would take half the show.
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