List Mgmt. Carlton's 2020 Draft Thread

[ferrisb]

I hate you more than I hate Arrow.....

Just kidding!

I don't discriminate against any posters.

I hate you all equally....

 

[Arr0w]

No he did not, he played as a CHF thankyou very much.

No actually

Thompson and Collins were the key talls Jack as the 3rd tall, at 190 back then

And, not sure what that has to do with him being able to play KPD

 

[Arr0w]

I hate you more than I hate Arrow.....

Just kidding!

Going to shatter you paneboy

 

[Arr0w]

Evidence. You didn't even know he played CHF for Vic Metro and you're going to bring up evidence? How does Tom Jonas play KP? Yet McGovern is too short, tell me how Jonas is a better athlete and more suited to KP than Jack.

Comparing Jonas to Jack

Bahaha

 

[THE_GUN]

Cant believe Jack Silvagni

1

Jack Silvagni

Age

26

Ht

194cm

Wt

92kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.0

3star

K

7.1

3star

HB

3.8

3star

M

3.8

4star

T

2.9

4star

G

0.7

4star

D

5.3

1star

K

4.0

1star

HB

1.3

1star

M

1.7

2star

T

0.7

1star

G

0.7

4star

D

9.2

3star

K

6.2

3star

HB

3.0

3star

M

3.4

4star

T

2.8

5star

G

0.8

4star

is 194cm 89kgs
same height as Alex Rance

Alex Rance

Age

35

Ht

194cm

Wt

95kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.6

4star

K

8.9

3star

HB

7.7

5star

M

5.7

5star

T

2.4

4star

MG

226.9

3star

No current season stats available

D

17.0

5star

K

5.8

3star

HB

11.2

5star

M

5.0

5star

T

3.6

5star

& Noah Balta

21

Noah Balta

Age

25

Ht

194cm

Wt

105kg

Pos.

D/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

9.8

2star

K

6.7

3star

HB

3.1

3star

M

2.7

3star

T

1.9

4star

MG

236.3

4star

D

12.0

3star

K

6.7

3star

HB

5.3

3star

M

4.0

4star

T

0.3

1star

MG

233.0

4star

D

7.0

2star

K

5.0

2star

HB

2.0

2star

M

1.8

2star

T

1.8

4star

MG

217.4

4star

 

[The Return of the Paf]

I want us to target athletic players over 190cms, no matter what position (within reason) they play.

 

[Arr0w]

Cant believe Jack Silvagni

1

Jack Silvagni

Age

26

Ht

194cm

Wt

92kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.0

3star

K

7.1

3star

HB

3.8

3star

M

3.8

4star

T

2.9

4star

G

0.7

4star

D

5.3

1star

K

4.0

1star

HB

1.3

1star

M

1.7

2star

T

0.7

1star

G

0.7

4star

D

9.2

3star

K

6.2

3star

HB

3.0

3star

M

3.4

4star

T

2.8

5star

G

0.8

4star

is 194cm 89kgs
same height as Alex Rance

Alex Rance

Age

35

Ht

194cm

Wt

95kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.6

4star

K

8.9

3star

HB

7.7

5star

M

5.7

5star

T

2.4

4star

MG

226.9

3star

No current season stats available

D

17.0

5star

K

5.8

3star

HB

11.2

5star

M

5.0

5star

T

3.6

5star

& Noah Balta

21

Noah Balta

Age

25

Ht

194cm

Wt

105kg

Pos.

D/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

9.8

2star

K

6.7

3star

HB

3.1

3star

M

2.7

3star

T

1.9

4star

MG

236.3

4star

D

12.0

3star

K

6.7

3star

HB

5.3

3star

M

4.0

4star

T

0.3

1star

MG

233.0

4star

D

7.0

2star

K

5.0

2star

HB

2.0

2star

M

1.8

2star

T

1.8

4star

MG

217.4

4star

Unfortunately without the speed and athleticism

 

[Just Kreuzing]

It’s not how big you are, it’s how big you play......

 

[Arr0w]

The reason we got rid of them was because the list was unbalanced though, there is still more than enough options for KPD, rather we target that natural small forward or small defender.

Small defender? Saad plays that role, yeah?

Plowman spanked the game's best small forwards this year

Williams can always cover if needed

Small defenders are the last thing we need

 

[BigBreakfast]

The reason we got rid of them was because the list was unbalanced though, there is still more than enough options for KPD, rather we target that natural small forward or small defender.

Small defender? We have an abundance of options there. Small forward or KD/Ruck depth.

 

[BigBreakfast]

How is that working out for us so far though?

Not great. Like LOB, really big, informative year ahead.

 

[cfc05]

Suns don’t need points for academy kids with the concessions they got last year.

What has that got to do with pick 27? I simply said it would have been nice to get pick 27 - which will be traded.

That pick will be moved, almost certainly, look at their list composition. Suns Pick 37 was used as a piece in Sydney's reasoning for doing our trade.

Tipping they will eventually get a 2021 second rounder for 27, however would have been nice if it was for our future 3rd or we found a way to make it work with steak knives.

 

[Arr0w]

How is that working out for us so far though?

Give it time

 

[C4[2]Yo`DooR]

More of a wish list if anything and barring any obvious top 20 talent falling down the order and still being available, my preference is the following:

Pick #31 - Winder/Baldwin

Pick #38 - Phoenix Spicer


Spicer and Winder are both explosive, quick, versatile and can add to our forward press and midfield.

Even though Baldwin is a KPF his talent (even if as a result of an ACL - see Kemp) would be too good to pass up IMO, he also affords us the flexibility to send McGovern down back if needed.

I'm not so sold on James Rowe as he seems more of a Jack Higgins type small forward.

 

[Ash24]

More of a wish list if anything and barring any obvious top 20 talent falling down the order and still being available, my preference is the following:

Pick #31 - Winder/Baldwin

Pick #38 - Phoenix Spicer


Spicer and Winder are both explosive, quick, versatile and can add to our forward press and midfield.

Even though Baldwin is a KPF his talent (even if as a result of an ACL - see Kemp) would be too good pass up IMO, also affords us the flexibility to send McGovern down back if needed.

I'm not so sold on James Rowe as he seems more of a Jack Higgins type small forward.

I wouldn't mind Spicer or Winder. I really think we need a small forward, but a young KPD and Jones replacement just seems like something we shouldn't be leaving until later, especially seeing key position players take a good 4 or so years of development first.

 

[murphster]

I wouldn't mind Spicer or Winder. I really think we need a small forward, but a young KPD and Jones replacement just seems like something we shouldn't be leaving until later, especially seeing key position players take a good 4 or so years of development first.

Yeah not sure we would take both Winder and Spicer either or, assuming Cox or Reid don’t slide otherwise I could see us trying to move up to get one of them which would negate both those picks.

 

[C4[2]Yo`DooR]

Yeah not sure we would take both Winder and Spicer either or, assuming Cox or Reid don’t slide otherwise I could see us trying to move up to get one of them which would negate both those picks.

Probably where my wish list ventures into fantasy.

 

[Ash24]

Yeah not sure we would take both Winder and Spicer either or, assuming Cox or Reid don’t slide otherwise I could see us trying to move up to get one of them which would negate both those picks.

FOR THE REMAINING 4 SPOTS ON OUR LIST

1.DFA KPD. Absolutely need mature cover for our two KPD’s. McDonald should be our priority. Trengove or Daw are decent as well.

2. Draft a KPD (Cox/Reid) to develop for 2-3 years and hopefully step into the seniors team when Jones/Casboult are finished. We don’t need to draft one if we get a young enough KPD like McDonald.

3. A small forward who's a natural goal kicker, not a converted midfielder. Possibly a mature aged state league player, but a draftee would be fine. If we get Cox or Reid, then Matera as a DFA would be my preference. If not, then Rowe, Spicer or Winder in the draft are all good too.

4. Take this list spot (plus possibly spot no. 2) to the mid season draft windows. If we don’t draft a KPD, we need to keep in mind an eventual replacement for Jones.

 

[swuzzlebubble]

From the BF phantom
These two at consecutive picks
Would be happy to take with our picks which will end up close together too

44. Western Bulldogs - Isiah Winder

45. Geelong - Kalin Lane

 

[C4[2]Yo`DooR]

I have it on good authority that if Logan McDonald is still on the board at #31 we will take him

 

[Kreuuuzeurns]

I have it on good authority that if Logan McDonald is still on the board at #31 we will take him

Kemp got to 17 last year. Who would’ve thought. Stranger things have happened

 

[Christou2Kouta]

I have it on good authority that if Logan McDonald is still on the board at #31 we will take him

Get Austin to start channelling Kevin Costner and letting other list managers know that you think he's a bust, none of his junior teammates attended his birthday, clearly not a team player. Then swoop with a crazy pick swap.

 

[C4[2]Yo`DooR]

Get Austin to start channelling Kevin Costner and letting other list managers know that you think he's a bust, none of his junior teammates attended his birthday, clearly not a team player. Then swoop with a crazy pick swap.

I hear he’s telling people that he will be the next Bo Gentry.

 

[NavyBlueCrusader]

FOR THE REMAINING 4 SPOTS ON OUR LIST

1.DFA KPD. Absolutely need mature cover for our two KPD’s. McDonald should be our priority. Trengove or Daw are decent as well.

2. Draft a KPD (Cox/Reid) to develop for 2-3 years and hopefully step into the seniors team when Jones/Casboult are finished. We don’t need to draft one if we get a young enough KPD like McDonald.

3. A small forward who's a natural goal kicker, not a converted midfielder. Possibly a mature aged state league player, but a draftee would be fine. If we get Cox or Reid, then Matera as a DFA would be my preference. If not, then Rowe, Spicer or Winder in the draft are all good too.

4. Take this list spot (plus possibly spot no. 2) to the mid season draft windows. If we don’t draft a KPD, we need to keep in mind an eventual replacement for Jones.

Makes no sense at all to bring in 2 KPD. One o.k but 2 is stretching it.

 

[Arr0w]

Makes no sense at all to bring in 2 KPD. One o.k but 2 is stretching it.

Makes absolute sense