Analysis Changes for Q. B'day (6 ins, including Brown, Langdon & Fas, squad in OP)

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If true, not surprised to hear Langdon get the nod ahead of Schade. The club loves him and he hit the ground running in the VFL . The forgotten man.
Can Langdon play the tall defensive stopper as well as Schade though? He probably can't which leaves Dunn as our only recognised tall stopper, who are Melbournes tall forwards without Hogan? I suspect Spencer to come back in and Pederson will be one that goes forward.
 
Thats the ultimate in giving. You didnt get anything back. The fact you didnt at the time know who you were giving him to is irrelevant.
Except they did get something.

Dunn was under contract and traded for a late pick, not delisted.
 

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Can Langdon play the tall defensive stopper as well as Schade though? He probably can't which leaves Dunn as our only recognised tall stopper, who are Melbournes tall forwards without Hogan? I suspect Spencer to come back in and Pederson will be one that goes forward.
Assuming Spencer plays and Hogan misses we'd be looking at Pederson and Watts as the key forwards.
 
Can Langdon play the tall defensive stopper as well as Schade though? He probably can't which leaves Dunn as our only recognised tall stopper, who are Melbournes tall forwards without Hogan? I suspect Spencer to come back in and Pederson will be one that goes forward.
At the moment a goal post could play the defensive key role as well as Schade. (bit harsh I know).

It's kind of sad to see the drop off in form and confidence of Schade over the last 3-4 weeks. For the first 5-6 weeks of this season he was performing really well at senior level for an inexperienced KPD but ever since he got smashed in the Hawks game (falling over at least twice) he just hasn't looked the same player.

He really does need to stay in the VFL until he finds form again now.

Langdon can play almost as tall as Goldsack, so really we arent losing much when comparing the backline that ran out against Freo to the probably defense against the Dees. All we are really losing is Goldsack in maybe career best form, but matchup wise it's not that different.

I'm a Schade fan long term, but at the moment he neither deserves, or should get a senior game.
 
Langdon can play almost as tall as Goldsack, so really we arent losing much when comparing the backline that ran out against Freo to the probably defense against the Dees. All we are really losing is Goldsack in maybe career best form, but matchup wise it's not that different.

I'm a Schade fan long term, but at the moment he neither deserves, or should get a senior game.

...and pace out of defence
 
Against Freo, he didn't look physically up to it yet. He looked to be too slow for the open field and lacking the strength for contests.

Yet people are calling for Brown and Daicos to be included who look even less physically ready at VFL level than Crocker did leading into his selection for the Freo game. Not too sure it's being physically up to it as much as adapting to the pace and role at the higher level. Happy for the kid to be given some time.
 
We didn't give you Dunn, we delisted him.

But yes, don't want any other Collingwood duds any time soon.

Actually you traded player 14 (I know it gets confusing for you using names) and pick 51 (used for Kayle Kirby or player 27 in your lingo) for pick 47 (used for Mitch Hannan, player 19) so essentially you did give him away for the paltry cost of 4 places in the draft order.
 
Billy was sub in quite a few of those games in 2012.

1 of them, his debut, played 22 minutes. Do you think we need to re-instate the sub rule?

Again, not really my point to compare and contrast Elliott and Crocker. In direct response to a specific post, just highlighting that even very good players can start slowly.
 

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Can Langdon play the tall defensive stopper as well as Schade though? He probably can't which leaves Dunn as our only recognised tall stopper, who are Melbournes tall forwards without Hogan? I suspect Spencer to come back in and Pederson will be one that goes forward.

Good question

Given he's replacing Goldsack and our tendency this year to play undersized and more mobile Kpps , who knows which way they will go.

Perhaps hogan out swings the club more towards Langdon rather than Schade.

Either way it's great to see Langdon on the radar after a year and a bit in the wilderness
 
Actually you traded player 14 (I know it gets confusing for you using names) and pick 51 (used for Kayle Kirby or player 27 in your lingo) for pick 47 (used for Mitch Hannan, player 19) so essentially you did give him away for the paltry cost of 4 places in the draft order.
Thanks, Sandra.
 
Good question

Given he's replacing Goldsack and our tendency this year to play undersized and more mobile Kpps , who knows which way they will go.

Perhaps hogan out swings the club more towards Langdon rather than Schade.

Either way it's great to see Langdon on the radar after a year and a bit in the wilderness


From what I saw in the 2's last week, I'd be bringing Langdon in before Schade. However, it leaves us pretty short down back and would require the Berg to play KPD. I'd still back him in to play on Watts.
 
Actually you traded player 14 (I know it gets confusing for you using names) and pick 51 (used for Kayle Kirby or player 27 in your lingo) for pick 47 (used for Mitch Hannan, player 19) so essentially you did give him away for the paltry cost of 4 places in the draft order.
So we got Dunn & Kirby for a downgrade of 4 spots?
Briiliant outcome!
 
This is actually one of the first weeks where I'm totally stumped with selection. There's multiple alternatives for each player.

For Elliott, you would think a direct swap for Fasolo. If Fasolo isn't declared available, then we may see Mayne come in, or they could go really young with Brown or Kirby.

For Goldsack, you would think either Langdon or Schade. Considering Goldsack has been playing as a full back, you would think Schade is a real chance. But Melbourne will be without Hogan, so it's left to Watts really, along with maybe Weiderman and Pederson. So we could look at going smaller. Even McLarty could be an outside chance. Even Keeffe has to be a sneaky chance to play either forward or back.

For Wells, Callum Brown may get his chance, or they could bring in Aish, or even someone like Josh Thomas who has been performing ok at VFL level.

Then Ramsay really didn't perform last week so Aish or Langdon could come in there.

My best guess would be:

In: Schade, Fasolo, Brown, Aish

Out: Goldsack, Elliott, Wells, Ramsay


But there's so many different variations we could work with there. Obviously Greenwood will be touch and go as well...in which case I'd advocate for Josh Thomas to be promoted.
 
This is actually one of the first weeks where I'm totally stumped with selection. There's multiple alternatives for each player.

For Elliott, you would think a direct swap for Fasolo. If Fasolo isn't declared available, then we may see Mayne come in, or they could go really young with Brown or Kirby.

For Goldsack, you would think either Langdon or Schade. Considering Goldsack has been playing as a full back, you would think Schade is a real chance. But Melbourne will be without Hogan, so it's left to Watts really, along with maybe Weiderman and Pederson. So we could look at going smaller. Even McLarty could be an outside chance. Even Keeffe has to be a sneaky chance to play either forward or back.

For Wells, Callum Brown may get his chance, or they could bring in Aish, or even someone like Josh Thomas who has been performing ok at VFL level.

Then Ramsay really didn't perform last week so Aish or Langdon could come in there.

My best guess would be:

In: Schade, Fasolo, Brown, Aish

Out: Goldsack, Elliott, Wells, Ramsay


But there's so many different variations we could work with there. Obviously Greenwood will be touch and go as well...in which case I'd advocate for Josh Thomas to be promoted.


With all the variations I'm still reasonably confident they wont drop anybody given we already have three outs to injury.

Apart from the Aish/Ramsay issue and maybe Langdon instead of Schade (a 50/50 call) I reckon your guess is pretty close.
 
I assume Schade would be the natural replacement for Goldsack even if his form has waned.

Watts has caused us problems in recent matches and not sure if Scharenberg would be his best opponent.
 
Aish's form doesn't demand he is an automatic selection.

If Langdon is fit enough he plays before Schade.

Hopefully Fas can play and Brown takes Wells spot.
 
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