Preview Changes: R5 vs Richmond - Saturday April 16, 4.05pm ACST @ Adelaide Oval

[Scorpus]

IN:
McAdam, Cook, Berry

OUT:
Hinge, Rowe, Schoenberg

Hinge dropped and named as an emergency, not injured

 

[jenny61_99]

What is actually wrong with Sloane?

In the game he broke his hand last year, he looked like old Sloane (albeit against Gold Coast). 34 touches, 7 marks, 11 clearances and a Brownlow vote. He then missed a month and just never regained any real form dealing with a further finger injury and eye injury.

I thought with a full preseason - he would really bounce back this year. Thought he would be used as a jack of all trades this year - used 50% up forward, 25% across half back and 25% in the middle.

He just seems to be really lacking confidence. He looks slow, uncertain and about 2 seconds off the pace.

Has the game completely gone past him or is it some other underlying issue?

Latest injury was an adductor?

 

[pjcrows]

Sloane has never been skillful by foot. His attributes were pressure, footy smarts and running capacity. He could cover so much ground. As players get older they lose the running capacity and the ones who can't kick fall off a cliff. Some are hoping he can turn in to a Pendlebury or Hodge type - a director of traffic etc - but he doesn't have the skills.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

I think using Covid as a reason/excuse is a cop out. Im not saying you, but rather if Sloane or the Club is using this as a reason.

I mean there were times last week, where he was simply shanking kicks and causing turnovers. Thats a sign of declination in skill, rather than stamina.

Sadly I don't think covid is likely the issue & that he is probably cooked... but hopefully it is.

Either way he should be sent back to the sanfl to find form.

 

[Gtowncrow]

Sloane is 32. Most players are lucky to make it to 30, he is done. Was a very poor contract. Sloane doesn't care anymore either, he knows his premiership window was shot 5 years ago. It's a poor decision having someone that was a major part of a failed campaign and likely jaded by the experience trying to inspire the future. The captain should be someone who will be a major part of our future. Nick's appointing Sloane shows you why he will fail as a coach.

Agree fully with your post. Rory has been great but old father time has caught up with him.

In thinking about future captains and the consensus that it will be Doedee, I want to raise a new name which is silly until you think it through and realise it's completely not.

Josh Rachele could be made captain to start the 2023 season.

He'd be very young. Fact.
He'd be new to the club. Fact.
He'd be "jumping the queue". Fact.

These points might be viewed as negatives. But...

Being young means he'll be a potential long term solution and not an interim skipper who is likely retiring through (or before) our best years with this squad.

Being young means he'll be a real Brownlow standard player through our best years with this squad. Think, lead by example or from the front mentality.

Being young means he'll develop alongside and with his team rather than a top down management style.

Being young means he will be intrinsically more open to experimentation, flexibility and have the courage to lose in the pursuit of improvement and winning.

Being brand new to the club allows him clear air to fully and finally move into our new era.

Being new to the club...well who isn't that actually matters in our next flag? Maybe Doedee.

By jumping the queue, he'd still have our leadership group available on and off field.

By jumping the queue, his new captaincy will create a renewed enthusiasm throughout the club and supporters.

And lastly, by appointing Josh Rachele as captain soon. He would be much more likely to become our next 300 game Brownlow medalist and become one of our all time great one club champions.

Methinks...

 

[Cap]

Not one Crows supporter would be shocked.

It's AFC 101

 

[triggyscrewedus]

Agree fully with your post. Rory has been great but old father time has caught up with him.

In thinking about future captains and the consensus that it will be Doedee, I want to raise a new name which is silly until you think it through and realise it's completely not.

Josh Rachele could be made captain to start the 2023 season.

He'd be very young. Fact.
He'd be new to the club. Fact.
He'd be "jumping the queue". Fact.

These points might be viewed as negatives. But...

Being young means he'll be a potential long term solution and not an interim skipper who is likely retiring through (or before) our best years with this squad.

Being young means he'll be a real Brownlow standard player through our best years with this squad. Think, lead by example or from the front mentality.

Being young means he'll develop alongside and with his team rather than a top down management style.

Being young means he will be intrinsically more open to experimentation, flexibility and have the courage to lose in the pursuit of improvement and winning.

Being brand new to the club allows him clear air to fully and finally move into our new era.

Being new to the club...well who isn't that actually matters in our next flag? Maybe Doedee.

By jumping the queue, he'd still have our leadership group available on and off field.

By jumping the queue, his new captaincy will create a renewed enthusiasm throughout the club and supporters.

And lastly, by appointing Josh Rachele as captain soon. He would be much more likely to become our next 300 game Brownlow medalist and become one of our all time great one club champions.

Methinks...

I'd make Smith captain for 2 yrs as a senior player that can impact games from his position as we monitor the teams progression.
Doedee isn't captain material.. a giraffe would have more on field presence.

 

[maxlilly]

Agree fully with your post. Rory has been great but old father time has caught up with him.

In thinking about future captains and the consensus that it will be Doedee, I want to raise a new name which is silly until you think it through and realise it's completely not.

Josh Rachele could be made captain to start the 2023 season.

He'd be very young. Fact.
He'd be new to the club. Fact.
He'd be "jumping the queue". Fact.

These points might be viewed as negatives. But...

Being young means he'll be a potential long term solution and not an interim skipper who is likely retiring through (or before) our best years with this squad.

Being young means he'll be a real Brownlow standard player through our best years with this squad. Think, lead by example or from the front mentality.

Being young means he'll develop alongside and with his team rather than a top down management style.

Being young means he will be intrinsically more open to experimentation, flexibility and have the courage to lose in the pursuit of improvement and winning.

Being brand new to the club allows him clear air to fully and finally move into our new era.

Being new to the club...well who isn't that actually matters in our next flag? Maybe Doedee.

By jumping the queue, he'd still have our leadership group available on and off field.

By jumping the queue, his new captaincy will create a renewed enthusiasm throughout the club and supporters.

And lastly, by appointing Josh Rachele as captain soon. He would be much more likely to become our next 300 game Brownlow medalist and become one of our all time great one club champions.

Methinks...

Didn't Melbourne go down this path a few years ago and it failed miserably ?

 

[Geoffa32]

Doedee has to be our next captain.

Should be now.

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[triggyscrewedus]

Doedee has to be our next captain.

Should be now.

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Based on what?
Yes he looks and acts very AFC but beyond that he's just an intercept defender with minimal game impact.

 

[Bearded Clam]

Dont disagree playing some of them but you need experience also unless you wanna end up like carlton rebuild 10 years later

Helps if your experienced guys arent the one’s busy being useless though..

No point having experienced blokes there to guide the youth if its the experienced guys that are underperforming.

But go ahead.. keep defending them. Our midfield is terrible. sloane/crouch/keays/laird aee the main cogs in that terrible midfield and are the main cogs that have been letting us down for a while now.

Most here arent saying get rid of all four of them at once.. but lets atleast **** crouch and sloane off until they can find some decent form.

 

[1970crow]

What is actually wrong with Sloane?

In the game he broke his hand last year, he looked like old Sloane (albeit against Gold Coast). 34 touches, 7 marks, 11 clearances and a Brownlow vote. He then missed a month and just never regained any real form dealing with a further finger injury and eye injury.

I thought with a full preseason - he would really bounce back this year. Thought he would be used as a jack of all trades this year - used 50% up forward, 25% across half back and 25% in the middle.

He just seems to be really lacking confidence. He looks slow, uncertain and about 2 seconds off the pace.

Has the game completely gone past him or is it some other underlying issue?

He’s cooked, his body has packed up on him. Combine that with the coaches trusting senior players to make the call on whether they can carry the injury and you get what Sloane is dishing up. Then add the coaching philosophy that maxing out average games across the 22 is more important than a senior player’s actual performance and you get us as a club and the method of midfield ‘development’ we’re currently seeing.

 

[FR0GGY]

Maybe just ask yourself whether would would want your child learning the word?

I try not to swear at all but I can't really talk as when I truly snap I use all sorts of words. Have called umpires C in front of children regrettably (and apologised).

Unfortunately the kids already know it, spend some time in a caravan park near a jumping pillow or where kids congregate and the footy will seem like church in comparison

 

[FR0GGY]

Dont disagree playing some of them but you need experience also unless you wanna end up like carlton rebuild 10 years later

How did experience help us in the essendon game vs port game where Tex and Sloane missed?
Experience vastly overrated by coaches and supporters.

 

[Bearded Clam]

What is actually wrong with Sloane?

In the game he broke his hand last year, he looked like old Sloane (albeit against Gold Coast). 34 touches, 7 marks, 11 clearances and a Brownlow vote. He then missed a month and just never regained any real form dealing with a further finger injury and eye injury.

I thought with a full preseason - he would really bounce back this year. Thought he would be used as a jack of all trades this year - used 50% up forward, 25% across half back and 25% in the middle.

He just seems to be really lacking confidence. He looks slow, uncertain and about 2 seconds off the pace.

Has the game completely gone past him or is it some other underlying issue?

He’s had one purple patch (last year before he had the eye issue) since about half way through 2017..

Rest of the time he’s been struggling for form and restricted by injuries.

Lucky he’s been one of our highest payed in this 3 or 4 year period eh!..

The bloke is cooked.

 

[Anzacpaul]

If we're going with a short term captain, I'd even look at Ben Keays

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Ben Keays

Age

27

Ht

185cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.1

3star

K

5.8

2star

HB

7.3

5star

M

2.3

2star

T

3.9

5star

G

0.4

3star

D

13.7

3star

K

8.7

3star

HB

5.0

3star

M

2.8

3star

T

3.7

4star

G

0.3

3star

D

13.0

4star

K

4.8

2star

HB

8.2

5star

M

1.4

2star

T

4.4

5star

G

0.4

3star

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Tries his guts out, doesn't leave anything on the ground and gives his all for the jumper.

 

[Geoffa32]

Based on what?
Yes he looks and acts very AFC but beyond that he's just an intercept defender with minimal game impact.

For real?

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[jackster83]

Doedee looks to be going through the motions this year.

He's not playing terribly but he is invisible out there. He's no longer leaving his man to help out Butts and co, which is hurting us.

 

[texanmike]

If we're going with a short term captain, I'd even look at Ben Keays.

Tries his guts out, doesn't leave anything on the ground and gives his all for the jumper.

Yep I’d give the captaincy to Keays as well for the short term. absolute work horse and does love to fire up his teammates on the ground.

 

[Pick4To6]

If we're going with a short term captain, I'd even look at Ben Keays.

Tries his guts out, doesn't leave anything on the ground and gives his all for the jumper.

You are kidding, right?

Ideally in 2 years we have quite a number of players who have gone past Ben Keays and he isn’t in the team.

If you can not kick, you can not play. Right now, Keays disposal efficiency is 69.8% and that is below the AFL industry standard. As a club sitting between 15-18th we can not afford to turn it over as often as we do and since he is one of our main ball winners, he burns it more than anyone.

I don’t care that he tries his guts out, that should not be a benefit, it should absolutely be an expectation for everyone.

Next captain should be Dawson, Laird or Doedee.

 

[Slippery Pete]

If we're going with a short term captain, I'd even look at Ben Keays.

Tries his guts out, doesn't leave anything on the ground and gives his all for the jumper.

“When Anzacpaul inadvertently adds 50 pages to a thread”

 

[LeftyLuke]

Good post. You raised some very valid points.

The choice of captain was crucial and Nicks failed to see this glaring issue.

Mind you, its not like we were blessed with alternatives either. If not Sloane, then who? I mean someone whose body is sound and whose performance trajectory either is good or constantly improving in order to lead from example.

Give it to Keays for a couple of years. He lacks in skill but he gives his all out on field week in and week out. Laird or Dawson other options.

 

[FR0GGY]

Doedee looks to be going through the motions this year.

He's not playing terribly but he is invisible out there. He's no longer leaving his man to help out Butts and co, which is hurting us.

His movie reviews are good though.

 

[FR0GGY]

If we're going with a short term captain, I'd even look at Ben Keays.

Tries his guts out, doesn't leave anything on the ground and gives his all for the jumper.

Someone check on Bearded Clam

 

[Slippery Pete]

I think Keays gets a bit of a bad wrap around here, for what he actually is.

But c’mon, he shouldn’t be the captain. That’s kooky talk.

Sloane shouldn’t be the captain either, but don’t get me started on that.

Pick someone who you think can captain the club for ten years. I don’t care how young he is. Just ****ing back him in, and give it to him.

The only captaincy choice we got right in the last 15 yrs was when Walsh appointed Walker against all the “expert” advice.

Now just go back and look at the reasons he did that, and apply them now. And then make the ****ing call, you bunch of softcocks.

 

[LeftyLuke]

I think Keays gets a bit of a bad wrap around here, for what he actually is.

But c’mon, he shouldn’t be the captain. That’s kooky talk.

Sloane shouldn’t be the captain either, but don’t get me started on that.

Pick someone who you think can captain the club for ten years. I don’t care how young he is. Just ******* back him in, and give it to him.

The only captaincy choice we got right in the last 15 yrs was when Walsh appointed Walker against all the “expert” advice.

Now just go back and look at the reasons he did that, and apply them now. And then make the ******* call, you bunch of softcocks.

The captain should be your best player or at least in the top 3. Dawson seems the logical choice as he should be playing for at least 6 or 7 years. Doedee too injury prone for mine. In time I can see Rachele or Berry as a possible captain.