Prediction Changes: Round 2 Vs North Melbourne + pre-match discussion

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How on Earth was he miles off influencing the game where if he kicks straight we win?

Could say the same about switta, although even if either of them does we still don't win. That's a stupid argument. Fact is, he didn't and he looked miles off it as the vaunted unicorn.
 

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Banners in for Tracey

Thats it I'm done

Banners has never improved, neither Hughes while we have Johnson Amiss Sturt and Erasmus all better players who are the future. Plus O'Driscoll and Walters who aren't in the 22.

**** me! We will never achieve anything with players who aren't best 22 getting games over actual talent

I'm flipping done
 
Not sure why people are acting surprised. Unless Walters/NOD were ready, it was always going to be Banfield in for one of the tall forwards and that's it.

JL is the most bland and unimaginative coach in the competition. He knows no other way and I fear it is going to cost us long term. We should be thinking about 2025, not how to scrape into the finals this year.
We lost one game and everyone went hysterical. I think most supporters expect us to try and make the finals whatever way we can.
 
Could say the same about switta, although even if either of them does we still don't win. That's a stupid argument. Fact is, he didn't and he looked miles off it as the vaunted unicorn.
Jackson had three shots on goals for 2 points and we lost by 15. 18-2 = 16. 16 > 15.

I could say the same about Switta, your the one that said he was miles off influencing the game, I'm just refuting that, it's not a stupid argument at all.

I'm not sitting here arguing he was excellent, I'm arguing he wasnt worst than one of the worst players on the ground and wasnt putrid
 
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Jackson had three shots on goals for 2 points and we lost by 15. 18-2 = 17. 17 > 15.

I could say the same about Switta, your the one that said he was miles off influencing the game, I'm just refuting that, it's not a stupid argument at all.

I'm not sitting here arguing he was excellent, I'm arguing he wasnt worst than one of the worst players on the ground and wasnt putrid

Yeah, still think he was putrid
 
No Treacy - Sturt or Amiss feels like a terrible joke. I do not understand it. We should win this weekend, even the win won't make this selection understandable. Very disappointing.

Banfield shouldn't be in the team unless it is due to injuries. Even as a sub I would prefer we develop MJ, Ras or another young player.

Tabs looks sore and I would be pleasantly surprised if he gets through the game.

O'meara and Brodie in the same midfield is going to be an interesting experiment. One just signed an extension and the other is in the leadership group (with two other mids).
 
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I think your maths needs work sir.

Treacy was probably worst on ground, fair he goes out. But if Taberner doesn’t kick at least 3 he should watch his back.
Haha, true terrible, we still win though so point stands =)
 
JLo in the pressure said execution needs improvement

Why play Banners and Hughes when they can't kick. Just play Sturt and Johnson. Or Walters if fit. He was named as an emergency so he can't be unfit
 
Only a couple of hours till we find out but I wonder if Treacy gets another chance. It’s all between the ears for him, I’ve noticed before at training & in the WAFL he’s got great hands & a booming kick, seems to have decent game sense but he goes to water in the big time.

I understand building him slowly but it seems insane not to play Amiss given he’s already at the level. Sturt must be given a chance too.

What I am actually expecting from our conservative match committee is Banfield into the starting 22 for Treacy. Sturt maybe to crack the sub spot or Johnson.
Do I win something? Other than a massive feeling of disappointment.
 

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That's a, uh, crimson red flag of terrible coaching. The one omission was the young one that needed to be backed in for a few weeks and showed some KPF nous, for the token bloke who gives good effort and nothing else.

Tremendously conservative and concerning.
 
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Fans aren't in the four walls of the football club, but that doesn't mean we're stupid. We still see the patterns and trends because we're obsessed.

Guys like Hughes and Banfield are battlers and are limited in their scope for growth. They aren't the future and they aren't going to lift us to that next level where we become a serious contender. They are 'break glass in case of emergency' types. Why can't the match committee see this?

The club HAS to give senior opportunities to young players outside of the 22 that have scope for growth and are able to perform regularly, otherwise we aren't going to improve further. We're still one of the youngest lists in the competition!

If Noddy's good to go, he should be brought in for Hughes. Sturt or Tracey offer a point of difference to Banfield. Not to mention that Fyfe's now playing the role Banfield's been playing the last few years, which in my eyes makes Banfield redundant. The sub role should be rotated amongst the young guys and selection should be determined on a combination of team structure/needs and Peel performance, so that integrity of selection is maintained somewhat.

I get that the club wants to back the team to respond from last week's debacle, but as a fan, I want the club to maximise whatever opportunities it has to increase its medium to long term chance of winning a flag.

I don't want to imagine what this place will be like if we lose on Saturday...

Fyfe didn’t chase or harass like Banfield did in 2022. Fyfe’s defensive efforts were like Lobb.
 
King has always been a meathead but after the way he carried on passionately defending Gaff after he coward punched a young bloke in the face I wouldn't spit on him if he was on fire.
Yeah I wouldn't of P*$$ed on David King 👑 if he was on fire to be honest
 
The thing with people like King (who i agree is a bit of a tool), they can say this crap because we dig ourselves our own hole! losing to St Kilda was symptomatic of our existence. We're laughable at the best of times. We create these situations for others to take pot shots by our own actions.

I'm still miffed at a couple selections on the weekend, and on who we've drafted into the club on big money as it doesnt solve our issue. We're crying out for a proper 100% bonified key forward, and bonified forward supports, we finally have them, and they're playing WAFL or not at all.

Sure, we can hate on King all we like, but we've made our own bed here and it doesnt look like getting any better until we actually select the players that naturally fill our needs.

I remember in 2013, we lost the GF but we were up there. I had eagles supporters tell me they'd still win a flag before us, which seemed ludicrous at the time, but we just do so well at tripping ourselves up. I still wouldnt be surprised if the mob down the road again win a flag before us.
It's hard to argue with your post...

Amazing how many times The dockers shot themselves in the foot.

And who cops it the worst? The fans.

Again.... 8 times out of 28 years of finals from 1995-2022. There's not a lot of positives to look back on.

I have always said... 3 years of finals from 1995-2010 is pathetic. I didn't expect a flag, but at least 5-6 good years of finals out of 15 years.

What makes it worse is, as you said , i won't be surprised if west coast gets a flag or 2 before we win one or make another grand final.

It's frustrating As the dockers are decently run. But to even it out, only 8 finals spots and 10 teams miss out
 
I think a lot of people are quick to defend Fyfe mostly out of loyalty to him because if the forward experiment doesn't work we all have to face the very sad subtext we all don't want to admit: He's too old and broken to really run out games anywhere else anymore; he might actually be done.

Here's hoping he settles into it, I think that may require an adjustment to his current role/position however.
 
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