Preview Changes vs Richmond

[bomberclifford]

Ahem.............Clears throat. We were 10 and 1 with Trengove and Carlile also. No panic here, lets just hope these boys are ok very shortley.......Yea ? !!

+ 2 of those wins were with Butcher in the side along with Trengove and Carlile.

 

[Port01]

+ 2 of those wins were with Butcher in the side along with Trengove and Carlile.

Carlile didn't play rd1, clurey did though.

 

[x_les_x]

Intercepted by Broadbent

Broadbent plays on, running through the half back flank

One bounce, two bounces

hits the leading Schulz on the wing

*obligatory booing from Richmond supporters*

Schulz plays on

"Watch this BT, sides have started to figure Port Adelaide out and have clogged their forward half"

Schulz doesn't know where to kick

Tigers pressuring

"The Tigers have shut down the short pass option BT"

"He'll have to go long"

Schulz kicks, long and hard

to a contest

Jakey Neede

Tigers with the mark

"Outsized BT. Always going to happen with Schulz up the ground and Westoff in the ruck"

"They need another tall option"

"Tigers have applied a hard tag to White and Chad Wingard"

"Wingard with only 4 disposals to the half. White with the Power's solitary goal"

"30 inside 50s for 1 goal 6"

"So much effort for little reward"

"But we all know how good of a second half team the power are"

You missed westhoff down in the back pocket and Mitchell on rance

 

[Schulzenfest]

We're obviously backing our existing structure in and I can't really argue with that.

Why not? If Carlile and Trengove were still in you could say that, but our 'existing structure' has existed for one game and we lost that game to a team 8 spots below us on the ladder at a ground where we'd never lost a home game before. It's not exactly going brilliantly.

 

[Hong-Kong Phooey]

lost for words. im really starting to not like ken too much

 

[bomberclifford]

Carlile didn't play rd1, clurey did though.

Fair enough, but we still had another tall.

 

[vonno]

So um.. yeah...

 

[bomberclifford]

New PAFC KPF recruit.

 

[itisnt2hard]

Why not? If Carlile and Trengove were still in you could say that, but our 'existing structure' has existed for one game and we lost that game to a team 8 spots below us on the ladder at a ground where we'd never lost a home game before. It's not exactly going brilliantly.

Kicking for goal cost us the game not the side picked nor the game plan. It happens and it did against Essendon.

 

[Schulzenfest]

Kicking for goal cost us the game not the side picked nor the game plan. It happens and it did against Essendon.

And our kicking for goal was shit because our shit forward structure meant that we rarely had set shots in good positions and subsequently most of our shots were either on tough angles or from players on the run under pressure.

If you can honestly go back and watch last week's game, count how many times that Essendon easily rebounded the ball because we were forced into plonking in on the head of the likes of Kane Mitchell because Westhoff was in defence/ruck and Schulz was forced up the field to give us a marking target, and then come back and tell me that our forward structure was fine, then I don't know what to say to you. And Monfries isn't exactly a giant, but losing him and replacing him with the Hobbit is only going to make that deficiency more obvious.

 

[tangolikelama]

Ok..

Final ins: Logan and Newton

Outs: Monfries and Mitchell

Sub: Broadbent

If Neade and S.Gray are the ins I will literally be speechless and to top it off Young and be sub

 

[itisnt2hard]

And our kicking for goal was shit because our shit forward structure meant that we rarely had set shots in good positions and subsequently most of our shots were either on tough angles or from players on the run under pressure.

Nup. If anything our keys missing in the backline contributed more to the pressure down field than any so called savior extra tall forward we may have played. Plus all our prime movers had a dirty day. Fact is we dont have any extra tall forwards currently available so we have to play the hand we are dealt. Next year different story. If we come out and win convincingly on Sunday you guys need to put your hands up and say we were wrooong. This game anyway.

 

[rogerjames]

Not the correct thread but we should recruit Nick Riewoldt. He gets his flag, we get our tall

 

[I Dont Care]

Been done.

May be an ongoing anthem...

 

[chachi11]

Another week of Westhoff down back, and Schulz marking on the wing with farkall forward .!!!

 

[RossFC]

Not the correct thread but we should recruit Nick Riewoldt. He gets his flag, we get our tall

Already addressed, He is not leaving.

 

[rogerjames]

Happy about Newton. That is all

He won't play though

 

[I Dont Care]

He won't play though

Too tall?

 

[rogerjames]

Already addressed, He is not leaving.

Oh. Back to the drawing board

 

[b0ydman]

While I would like another tall into the side, do people honestly think Kern doesn't want one? I think it's quite clear from what he's said that he nor the coaching staff think Shaw is ready and they aren't happy with something in Butchers game at SANFL level.

I personally think a bench of Young, Newton, Hartlett and Impey is solid!

As for S.Gray if he can dish his 1st qtr efforts up for a full match I think he'll be a handy Monfries replacement.

My biggest worry is a spud like Vickery tears us apart because we have no height down back!

Sam gray is not ready yet, and Kane Mitchell is a squib who forfeited the right to play in the team, never mind he is a plodder who has reached his ceiling

 

[TeeKray]

Basically, we've picked a team that heavily banks on the game panning out how we want and expect it to with open, quick ball movement and control from the stoppages. If it doesn't pan out that way and Richmond have some success in closing us down, we are in serious trouble.

For me, it's a poor forward structure again. The reality is that at some stage we are going to have to throw caution to the wind and give an extended opportunity to a young tall up forward. Whether it's Butcher or Shaw or even Harvey is fairly immaterial to me, it just has to be done.

Sometimes I think waiting for a player to kick half a dozen every week for half a season just isn't the right approach. The difference in quality between AFL and SANFL football is not necessarily linear. There are so many examples of players who sort of float around at SANFL level and then thrive at AFL level - O'Shea being the most recent and prime example. I would love to have seen Shaw named at CHF tonight. That would be a positive move aimed at improvement.

 

[b0ydman]

We should just have a meltdown mega thread and save people the trouble of making a new changes thread every week.

Actually better just to forfeit because we have lost in the exact way we said pre game we would.

You don't think Hardwick is laughing his ass off right now?

 

[itisnt2hard]

Sam gray is not ready yet, and Kane Mitchell is a squib who forfeited the right to play in the team, never mind he is a plodder who has reached his ceiling

Agreed on Mitchell. Sam Gray one more this week. He will be tough to match up though and might force the Tiges to play a bit shorter. They havent really got any one.

 

[itisnt2hard]

S**T dirty on myself i shouldnt have posted the one above. I was really really kicken on seeing that 666 under my tag. FFS

 

[b0ydman]

Basically, we've picked a team that heavily banks on the game panning out how we want and expect it to with open, quick ball movement and control from the stoppages. If it doesn't pan out that way and Richmond have some success in closing us down, we are in serious trouble.

For me, it's a poor forward structure again. The reality is that at some stage we are going to have to throw caution to the wind and give an extended opportunity to a young tall up forward. Whether it's Butcher or Shaw or even Harvey is fairly immaterial to me, it just has to be done.

Sometimes I think waiting for a player to kick half a dozen every week for half a season just isn't the right approach. The difference in quality between AFL and SANFL football is not necessarily linear. There are so many examples of players who sort of float around at SANFL level and then thrive at AFL level - O'Shea being the most recent and prime example. I would love to have seen Shaw named at CHF tonight. That would be a positive move aimed at improvement.

I remember when the SANFL rubbed out Russell Johnson (1988?) we took a punt on David Hynes.

Everyone said he wasn't ready and the rest was history.

Wines was 18 and untried. We are playing Impey at 18. Wingard was 18.

Yes, give them a go, who knows!

Come the hour come the man.

And even if they just stand there, structurally they can negate tall defenders and enable us the OPTION to kick it in high and long.

To lose talls, which contributed to us winning, and not even replace them and lose largely because our structures are out is futile.

if they block up Schultz and crowd delivery to him We will be forced to go wide again, and be 3 goals 12 at half time.