Coach Coach for 2025

[dinnaz]

Longmire has made the finals 12 out of 14 years, topped the ladder on three occasions, made 5 grand finals and won one premiership. That's a phenomenal record.

I hate hearing about how muh better their culture is blah blah.
Sydney have their academy rort, COLA, a potential player base of 5+ million people etc etc. It helps when you can have the best players added for free.

A bit like Geelong- they have the upper hand over the rest of the comp with proper home ground advantage, players looking to move clubs out of the bubble, and travel is an hour or two for 95% of the year.

The proof is that both teams make finals often but can't win it all. If we transplant the same players to WCE/Freo then it goes from a top 4 finish -> Elimination final and so on.

 

[Ambrose Burnside]

Reckon if we don't name a coach Monday it's gonna set us back a decade or more and Harley will request a trade Tuesday.

 

[ziad]

I hate hearing about how muh better their culture is blah blah.
Sydney have their academy rort, COLA, a potential player base of 5+ million people etc etc. It helps when you can have the best players added for free.

A bit like Geelong- they have the upper hand over the rest of the comp with proper home ground advantage, players looking to move clubs out of the bubble, and travel is an hour or two for 95% of the year.

The proof is that both teams make finals often but can't win it all. If we transplant the same players to WCE/Freo then it goes from a top 4 finish -> Elimination final and so on.

They have some advantages, and a few disadvantages. What is certain is that of late their culture has been solid while our has drifted into the power category. We would be better off focusing on our issues, and I think the club is doing so.

 

[Bender_]

Reckon if we don't name a coach Monday it's gonna set us back a decade or more and Harley will request a trade Tuesday.

Fold the club on Wednesday.

 

[Keys]

Fold the club on Wednesday.

The maximum number of times a piece of paper is supposed to be 7

Pretty sure we’ve already reached that limit

 

[D-N-R]

Back to coaches. If the 2 Richmond players are hesitant on committing before a coach is picked this would suggest they are seeing if McQualter gets the job. They might commit more to coming to WC if he does or may not be so bothered if he doesn't. If he does get the job it might be beneficial having 2 senior players who know him and his game plan. Like having a couple of extra assistant coaches.

 

[WA footy mad]

Nooooo to Richmond rejects (baker & graham). keep our picks. They not interested in WCE unless we get the coach, they are holding us to ransom, They can F**K off.

 

[TOA.]

Trade week starts in 8 days. Surely tomorrow is the day. I know lots on her think we shouldnt rush it but geez we are well past that now.

 

[dinnaz]

They have some advantages, and a few disadvantages. What is certain is that of late their culture has been solid while our has drifted into the power category. We would be better off focusing on our issues, and I think the club is doing so.

Simply put the deck is stacked. No way any of the Northern coaches are moving on from the golden goose.
In WA we have the best home ground/travel advantage for 11 games a year. That's about it. We eat going the other way which must be a consideration for eastern states candidates on and off field.

This is almost a list of their respective best players over the course of the last few years. The disparity in off field facilities is now minimal across the comp as well.

Ashcroft F/S
Hipwood Academy
Andrews Academy
Fletcher F/S
Coleman Academy

Heeney Academy
Gulden Academy
Blakey Academy
Mills Academy
Campbell Academy

Take those Sydney 5 and put them in WCE colours and we are a top 6 team. However we have no capacity in which to get that leg up list wise.

I get the feeling that our next coach is not getting set up to fail - but cannot do any more than end up in a mediocre position. Id expect a 3 year deal for the incoming head coach. How long will the board accept middle of the road performances if that's what it comes to?

 

[Ambrose Burnside]

The maximum number of times a piece of paper is supposed to be 7

Pretty sure we’ve already reached that limit

And that's just in a single Dark Sharks post!

 

[Ghossein]

Trade week starts in 8 days. Surely tomorrow is the day. I know lots on her think we shouldnt rush it but geez we are well past that now.

I'd bet a significant amount of money that the club has already picked a coach who has signed or is in the process of signing a contract

either way they would already be working

 

[daddy_4_eyes]

Nooooo to Richmond rejects (baker & graham). keep our picks. They not interested in WCE unless we get the coach, they are holding us to ransom, They can F**K off.

I very much doubt that's the case.
I'd bet that they've already made their decisions but are being guided by their player managers about when they make the announcement.

 

[ziad]

Simply put the deck is stacked. No way any of the Northern coaches are moving on from the golden goose.
In WA we have the best home ground/travel advantage for 11 games a year. That's about it. We eat going the other way which must be a consideration for eastern states candidates on and off field.

This is almost a list of their respective best players over the course of the last few years. The disparity in off field facilities is now minimal across the comp as well.

Ashcroft F/S
Hipwood Academy
Andrews Academy
Fletcher F/S
Coleman Academy

Heeney Academy
Gulden Academy
Blakey Academy
Mills Academy
Campbell Academy

Take those Sydney 5 and put them in WCE colours and we are a top 6 team. However we have no capacity in which to get that leg up list wise.

I get the feeling that our next coach is not getting set up to fail - but cannot do any more than end up in a mediocre position. Id expect a 3 year deal for the incoming head coach. How long will the board accept middle of the road performances if that's what it comes to?

that doesn't explain 2018 and what would have been a couple of great following years if not for willie and a failure of leadership over covid.

 

[daddy_4_eyes]

I'd bet a significant amount of money that the club has already picked a coach who has signed or is in the process of signing a contract

either way they would already be working

In any case, list management involves long term planning and is the responsibility of Clarke. No chance a new coach comes in and starts dictating who to trade in and out.

 

[TOA.]

In any case, list management involves long term planning and is the responsibility of Clarke. No chance a new coach comes in and starts dictating who to trade in and out.

Its not just about players. I think a late appointment of a coach also affects the assistants he can bring too. The later we approach the harder it will be to get them across. In fact i dare say alot are on holiday now and working towards the next preseason so will be interesting to see how we go in that space.

 

[Priddis Is Done]

Whichever coach we chose that makes Baker choose Cockburn, that's the coach I want.

 

[ghostbat12]

Simply put the deck is stacked. No way any of the Northern coaches are moving on from the golden goose.
In WA we have the best home ground/travel advantage for 11 games a year. That's about it. We eat going the other way which must be a consideration for eastern states candidates on and off field.

This is almost a list of their respective best players over the course of the last few years. The disparity in off field facilities is now minimal across the comp as well.

Ashcroft F/S
Hipwood Academy
Andrews Academy
Fletcher F/S
Coleman Academy

Heeney Academy
Gulden Academy
Blakey Academy
Mills Academy
Campbell Academy

Take those Sydney 5 and put them in WCE colours and we are a top 6 team. However we have no capacity in which to get that leg up list wise.

I get the feeling that our next coach is not getting set up to fail - but cannot do any more than end up in a mediocre position. Id expect a 3 year deal for the incoming head coach. How long will the board accept middle of the road performances if that's what it comes to?

The reason Sydney are doing well is because they found players like Warner cheap.

Brisbane got in neale, Cameron, Daniher, ah chee, Dunkley through trade as well as lohmann through draft. Success isn’t purely down to academy.

Whilst some of players on your list are special, many others are good but not extraordinary players.

You can’t have academies or nga’s only if no good players come through. And statistics purely say you can’t have all nga’s producing a-graders all the time.

I do say that Blakey one, where he was also a FS should not have been allowed.