List Mgmt. Collingwood Trade and FA

[ElliottsMaggies]

Not in this case.
Not if you listened to how fly talked about it. They looked at it, but decided he was not someone they wanted at the club.

He couldn't have been any more emphatic.

At last we can put that potential trade to rest.

 

[ElliottsMaggies]

Wow, “I’m a coach that wants players not picks. I tell the list management team all the time.”

Not sure I like that attitude and philosophy from fly.

Why?

 

[nahnah]

more than ok with a coach that wants to win every year

 

[Jen2310]

He couldn't have been any more emphatic.

At last we can put that potential trade to rest.

Very clear.

 

[larrikan]

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Wow, “I’m a coach that wants players not picks. I tell the list management team all the time.”

Not sure I like that attitude and philosophy from fly.

Yes, players not picks will rock a few posters here going after talls in the draft.

It’s does line up with our early season comments about not bottoming out.

If we change to a more aggressive game plan then intercepting off half back and speed will be priorities.


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[TradeDraft]

We have an interest in Harry Perryman - Fly sauce

So he added nothing really new

 

[TradeDraft]

He knows more but won’t say anything

 

[ElliottsMaggies]

So he added nothing really new

He's not a news breaker. Why tell everyone who we may be interested in & speaking to if there are others the media don't know about?

That would be dumb.

 

[Scodog10]

Wow, “I’m a coach that wants players not picks. I tell the list management team all the time.”

Not sure I like that attitude and philosophy from fly.

I ****ing love it!

Picks don’t win you premierships players do and the promise of being better in the future will never compete with the ability to contend in the immediate. Having selections at your disposal also doesn’t guarantee you the ability to access players.

There’s no doubt that when the time comes we’ll serve our time reloading through the draft, but I’m hard pressed thinking of when that might be as long as Nick Daicos plays for us!

 

[sr36]

Wow, “I’m a coach that wants players not picks. I tell the list management team all the time.”

Not sure I like that attitude and philosophy from fly.

I'd say that would be standard amongst coaches. Their job is to prep for the coming year. But you'd hope they get outvoted by the recruiters and list manager when we should be making a longer term decision.

 

[Masked Magician]

Well for me, I prefer a year where we do both, e.g end of 2022

Keep the first round pick and draft allan, but also bring in mitchell hill Frampton and McStay

 

[Jen2310]

I'd say that would be standard amongst coaches. Their job is to prep for the coming year. But you'd hope they get outvoted by the recruiters and list manager when we should be making a longer term decision.

Thats right

Coaches coach.
List managers and recruiters build your list.

 

[ElliottsMaggies]

Well for me, I prefer a year where we do both, e.g end of 2022

Keep the first round pick and draft allan, but also bring in mitchell hill Frampton and McStay

Fly doesn't get all the say. He's just saying what his preference is.

 

[asongofnightsandliars]

This is why he is the coach not the list management. lol

Successful teams aren't built off of the draft

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[asongofnightsandliars]

Wow, “I’m a coach that wants players not picks. I tell the list management team all the time.”

Not sure I like that attitude and philosophy from fly.

I love that philosophy

Because the draft is not the way to build a successful list nor maintain a team in the window

I'm glad he isn't a draftophile

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[nahnah]

Well for me, I prefer a year where we do both, e.g end of 2022

Keep the first round pick and draft allan, but also bring in mitchell hill Frampton and McStay

Yeah but we only used 3 draft picks that year in the ND and bought in 4 senior players, thats what I think he means. He wants to keep bringing in recruits so our list doesnt get too young and uncompetitive

 

[Jen2310]

Successful teams aren't built off of the draft

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Its a balance.
Where would be we without
Moore
De Goey
Maynard
Nick
Josh
Pendles
Sidey

You draft for talent
recruit for needs

 

[Jen2310]

Yeah but we only used 3 draft picks that year in the ND and bought in 4 senior players, thats what I think he means. He wants to keep bringing in recruits so our list doesnt get too young and uncompetitive

Yeah thats fine.
draft 3 is good amount unless you were in the bottom 4

Think we'll recruit 2, draft 3.

 

[nahnah]

draft 3 is good amount

we have to do that, i believe we dont have a choice on that one its the minimum you have to take every year

 

[Apex36]

Well they cant offer much less. Unless they do a F2 instead? And give us a future pick for mcguane.
They'll get the battle compo but whether thats a first or 2nd round compo, not sure.

There’s no way on earth they’re offering pick 24 for a depth ruck in a strong draft, that would be mental.

 

[Masked Magician]

I’m also supportive of trading our picks but only when we know the value of the pick and who is likely available at that pick.

Trading future firsts just don’t work for us.

 

[Markfs]

we're an ageing list so we need players ready to go....we'll change over to drafting when the bottom falls out

 

[celestial]

I get where fly and the Collingwood senior leadership are coming from with regards to not bottoming out , but you only have to look at what brisbane have done to make it into the grand final. They had 5 acls , 5 for crying out loud. Somehow it has been their young talent that they were forced to bring in that really fuelled their resurgence. Their future looks really bright now that they have found the next generation to carry them forward.
So Collingwood should really reconsider the philosophy of trading draft picks to not bottom out . Unless of course the senior management aren't sold on the drafting department to nail the picks in the coming drafts given their recent track record.

 

[The Royal Sampler]

I'd say that would be standard amongst coaches. Their job is to prep for the coming year. But you'd hope they get outvoted by the recruiters and list manager when we should be making a longer term decision.

Perryman is a player who doesn’t require picks. Old El Paso Girl stuff.

 

[Jen2310]

we have to do that, i believe we dont have a choice on that one its the minimum you have to take every year

Thats right.
You can do two and upgrade a rookie
But most clubs will be taking as many as they can in this draft, so min of 3.