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Fly was only speaking on his behalf. Not the leadership group. Or the list manager. Or the recruitment manager.
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List Mgmt. Collingwood Trade and FA
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Agreed we should stop trading future firsts
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Maybe
But tbf, Port recruited him with a F2 and some other picks.
This was the trade from richmond to port last year
The Tigers have received picks 41 and 49, a future second-round pick tied to Fremantle as well as Port's future fourth-round pick in exchange for Soldo, with the Power also getting Richmond's pick 50 in return.
So freo's F2 this year is pick 27
So Port paid pick 27, 41, 49 and 72
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Bro, between F&S"s and their academies, we will never be able to replicate that.
Correct me If I am wrong , but I am pretty sure the president echoed similar sentiments. Would be hard pressed to think they are the only two members of the senior management who share this sentiment.
And, in fairness, he’s seen how badly we’ve used our picks in recent years.
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I would think Mitchell, Crisp, WHE, Elliott and Mihocek should be a chance to play on in 2026 - as rest will be moved on.
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Cal’s guessing, he made that very clear when he prefaced that statement with “my belief is it could be”.
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The question is how well will they play in 2 years time I suppose.
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This article is perfect. Look at Brisbane's draft picks in recent drafts . Aside from two f/s( we of all clubs shouldn't be complaining about f/s) barely any academy picks in their starting lineup.
Agree. He is responsible for coaching the senior team, not the junior development co-ordinator.
Poor managers spend future capital (run down capital) to make themselves look good. Whether it be leasing flash cars, using future picks or back ending contracts.
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As Chris Scott said in his surly way when being questioned by a journo about a future list management decision. "I don't know yet, I'm just one vote."
Interesting comments by Fly on SEN saying "I don't want picks, l want players"...Even if we get a pick 12, would we trade it out?
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I’m ok with the coach wanting players over picks.
However, picks will become players once selected.
So he needs to trust the balance of the list bosses and scouts who are entrusted with this work
We need to get the balance right
However, picks will become players once selected.
So he needs to trust the balance of the list bosses and scouts who are entrusted with this work
We need to get the balance right
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Given coaches jobs are reliant upon wins and losses and getting better now. Most coaches would be focused on that rather than future players given there is no guarantee the said coach would even be at the club to coach these players.
This is probably why most coaches tend to say out of list management, drafting and the like and leave that to that specific department whose job it is to look after the long term prospects of the club. The coach is focused on winning week by week.
You would rarely see Bucks at the draft.
This is probably why most coaches tend to say out of list management, drafting and the like and leave that to that specific department whose job it is to look after the long term prospects of the club. The coach is focused on winning week by week.
You would rarely see Bucks at the draft.
That’s what I got from Fly’s comment too. I reckon if you polled the current head coaches all of them (or at least a distinct majority) would have the same belief. Because their goals are more short term.
But a list manager needs to balance short term goals with long term goals which is why you need the list manager to be different to the coach.
As one of the posters just alluded to it before, should that situation arise I wouldn't be surprised if the drafting department overrules the wishes of the senior coach.
Forget worrying about what Port might be able to get for Soldo or what machinations they could possibly use to land pick 24.
We wouldn't be getting that for Richards anyway.
More likely the Saints offer up pick 43 and potentially a swap of future selections.
We'll push for Ports current pick 36 or a future 2nd.
Given he's out of contract we might yet have to settle for less than people desire.
We wouldn't be getting that for Richards anyway.
More likely the Saints offer up pick 43 and potentially a swap of future selections.
We'll push for Ports current pick 36 or a future 2nd.
Given he's out of contract we might yet have to settle for less than people desire.
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We did also trade into an extremely shallow draft and out of and extremely deep draft
