List Mgmt. Collingwood Trade and FA

[Jafo]

I find it very mildly strange that the Collingwood social media pages haven't had anything about Perryman joining. Is our media department on holidays?

 

[sr36]

It doesn't exist, I'd say mainly so the AFL can ensure struggling clubs (like Melbourne when they lost Frawley) get Band 1 when a good club raids them.

There are supposedly a few factors though; player age (Perryman is a rare UFA due to December birthday which works in GWS' favour), contract length, contract value.

I think there's probably a closely guarded formula, which isn't releases as clubs would do dodgy bullshit.

 

[BEEG]

And 12 plus a future first and Noble for Huston is a ****ing horrid deal for us

Would want a future 2nd back.

 

[Cousin of Daicos]

 

[Seedsfan]

Would want a future 2nd back.

More than that

 

[Rorzza]

If the afl thinks pick 16 compo for URFA Perryman is adequate it's realistic to consider Noble a contracted player is of similar value.

 

[celestial]

Would think it would take noble plus a second to get pick 13. This is assuming you place nobles value just below perryman's and then use the second rounder to command pick 13.

 

[Exambolor]

And 12 plus a future first and Noble for Huston is a ****ing horrid deal for us

12 is now 13 with the Battle compo, so if it slips down to a 15-16 pick, the future first may not be needed

 

[SchuPie]

Would want a future 2nd back.

I’d really like Houston but I also really want to trade F1 in 2024 and grab KPPs
Can we do both?

 

[celestial]

I think we will have to have at least 1 first round picks in this year's draft or the next so that we have the ability to trade 2 future firsts in next year's trade period.

 

[Crazy Tails]

I think we will have to have at least 1 first round picks in this year's draft or the next so that we have the ability to trade 2 future firsts in next year's trade period.

If McGuane gets a bid in Rnd 1 next year and we match with multiple later picks. That counts as us taking a first round pick doesn’t it?


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[Exambolor]

I can’t wait for the Lukosious deal to be official and be a long one to see how he responds.

Answer: he won’t say boo because it’s Port,

If Cumming or Perryman went to Port he would have not said anything

 

[TW Sherrin]

Again, I don't understand this line of thinking in 2024

If he's a player we've genuinely identified that we want/need and both Port and GWS have offered him 6 year deals also, then what do you suggest we offer?

I personally don't believe the 900K number. But 700-750? Sure. Maybe even 800 I'd buy.

Is he worth those dollars? We won't really know until next year, but I'm less fussed about money given we're about to have a shit tonne of cap space over the next 2 years as well as the cap itself increasing anyway.

I get far more pissed about draft picks being given up.

Spending cap space because you can isn't a great strategy.

Even paying him 700k sets a floor for a lot of mid range guys coming out or contract soon.

Forget Nick, Josh is now a million dollar player.

 

[Seedsfan]

I’d really like Houston but I also really want to trade F1 in 2024 and grab KPPs
Can we do both?

Yeah by not selling the farm for a half back flanker

 

[celestial]

vv , vvvvIf McGuane gets a bid in Rnd 1 next year and we match with multiple later picks. That counts as us taking a first round pick doesn’t it?


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That is a fair point, I suppose it depends on how AFL defines the first round picks condition, especially in a F/s scenario like you alluded to. Do they need you to take a first round into the draft or will matching a first round bid suffice?

 

[sr36]

Would want a future 2nd back.

How are we getting pick 12 in that scenario?

I think we'd do deals that turn Noble, Richards and a future first into Houston and be very happy if it was possible.

 

[sideswipe]

Spending cap space because you can isn't a great strategy.

Even paying him 700k sets a floor for a lot of mid range guys coming out or contract soon.

Forget Nick, Josh is now a million dollar player.

Clubs don't "spend cap space because they can" - if they are in a position like, say, Richmond might be next season, the logical thing to do is alter existing contracts by frontloading them. Player contracts are regularly varied.

 

[nahnah]

Perryman locked in, fully focused on Houston now

 

[Crazy Tails]

If Port are looking for a small forward they should divert from Richards to Ned McHenry

25

Ned Mchenry

Age

24

Ht

179cm

Wt

81kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

9.7

2star

K

4.0

2star

HB

5.7

4star

M

2.5

3star

T

2.3

4star

G

0.0

1star

D

9.7

2star

K

4.0

1star

HB

5.7

3star

M

2.5

3star

T

2.3

3star

G

0.0

1star

D

10.0

3star

K

3.6

2star

HB

6.4

4star

M

2.6

3star

T

2.0

4star

G

0.0

1star

. DFA now so no trade needed. Already in SA, has a lot more exposed form than Richards and same age.


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[Bramax]

Spending cap space because you can isn't a great strategy.

Even paying him 700k sets a floor for a lot of mid range guys coming out or contract soon.

Forget Nick, Josh is now a million dollar player.

I guess we could have opted not to bring any free agents in and just go backwards next year.

 

[Gabbo64]

And 12 plus a future first and Noble for Huston is a ****ing horrid deal for us

If we are trading Noble for pick 12 And trade future 1st and 12 for Houston, then it s actually costng us Noble and future 1st. We never had 12.

 

[celestial]

Think the biggest question surrounding our F1 is, do Collingwood think mcguane will improve to the point where he is likely to attract a first round bid.

 

[gouki88]

Perryman locked in, fully focused on Houston now

Man, turning Noble & Richards (plus a pick or two) into Houston would be fantastic.

 

[Jen2310]

Think the biggest question surrounding our F1 is, do Collingwood think mcguane will improve to the point where he is likely to attract a first round bid.

He's already in first round calculations according to twomey
Imagine another year in the system where he gets to

 

[Soups]

Can someone give a rundown on which journos are reliable sources of trade information? Something like a grading of "Usually right, sometimes right, usually wrong"? Kind of like how Cal Twomey is the best at draft info.

Tom Morris - Always never right.
Sam McClure - Flog.