Collingwood's decline

[Max zero]

We're rebuilding too, in fact you could mount a case that says pretty much any side out of the current top 4 is rebuilding. So what makes Collingwood so special? Of our 5 best players today in an 105 point away smashing, the oldest player was potential AA Jacobs at 26.

Same with WC. With Cox and Glass retiring this year Priddis is our oldest player on our list at 29. With Butler and Waters probably retiring very soon (due to injuries both are depth) our next oldest players on our list are 27.

Its quite possible starting next year the top 5 ages on our list are going to be 29,27,27,26,26

 

[bradrowe#32]

they are hand in glove (and the sun shines out of their behind)

Sacking Buckley essentially means Eddie was wrong. Won't happen

Good one Gavin
The union of Eddie and Nathan is not like any other love

It also got a premiership in 2010.

 

[Gavin Excell]

It also got a premiership in 2010.

he wasn't the coach?

 

[DuckToaster]

he wasn't the coach?

Wouldn't of won 2010 without the succession plan.

 

[Big_Luch]

Collingwood is special because we've been in the finals for eight consecutive years. We don't piss off down the bottom of the ladder to rebuild, we do it on the run by trading and good drafting.

picks 2 and 5 in '05 came from where?

 

[Gavin Excell]

Wouldn't of won 2010 without the succession plan.

that's revisionism at its best.

So after ten ir so years at Collingwood, Malthouse delivered because he was given a deadline?

 

[DuckToaster]

that's revisionism at its best.

So after ten ir so years at Collingwood, Malthouse delivered because he was given a deadline?

It certainly forced his hand during the draft and trade period.

 

[Damon_3388]

picks 2 and 5 in '05 came from where?

From us having a poor list that was cruelled by injury, which caused us to lose games. "Not having the cattle" was what Malthouse termed it, I believe. Not sure how we were meant to get more out of our list in 2004/2005.

 

[FastLane]

that's revisionism at its best.

So after ten ir so years at Collingwood, Malthouse delivered because he was given a deadline?

pretty much

 

[pieman123]

picks 2 and 5 in '05 came from where?

Having to go back a decade pretty much proves his point.

 

[Big_Luch]

Having to go back a decade pretty much proves his point.

From us having a poor list that was cruelled by injury, which caused us to lose games. "Not having the cattle" was what Malthouse termed it, I believe. Not sure how we were meant to get more out of our list in 2004/2005.

the post stated you guys dont piss off down the ladder to rebuild. However big components of the core of the young group that won you a flag came from exactly that.

In terms of the OP i think you guys will be really good in a couple years however you need to find a key forward as cloke might start to wane as the plethora of good picks you have taken over the last couple years come to fruition. Judging by your clubs development of players id suggest most will be hits.

 

[FootyGeek]

Any realistic non biased Collingwood supporter would of told you this was going to happen. I had us finishing 12th at the start of the year. No surprises here.

They would of, they really would of.

That's what I would have said.

 

[FootyGeek]

Wouldn't of won 2010 without the succession plan.

Wouldn't of won.

I would have said wouldn't have won.

 

[Rob R]

Coming from a household where the boss barracks for Collingwood, I get to see a lot of Pies games and it looks like whilst they have some great future strengths (especially Frost, Keefe, Langdon in Defence) and the mistakes being made by the youngsters will get better with experience - their skills apart from Pendlebury/Beams in the midfield are very average especially when the midfield is structured with a very defensive tagger who can't play midfield (other teams have taggers but they are midfielders proper like Shiels etc) or worse when someone like Harry "just bomb it randomly forward" L goes in there. Who do they have that will go from half back through the wing and deliver the ball quickly and accurately. Collingwood's midfield is supposedly elite but after Beams, Pendlebury & Sidebottom (in future Adams), they are far below the best teams second line of midfielders.

 

[Go the Guts]

Having to go back a decade pretty much proves his point.

It proves that you DID piss off down the bottom of the ladder. You've been lower than Adelaide many times over since 2000. You guys live in Collingwood dreamland. The Tippet thing aside, we don't have 1 top 10 pick on our list. You've bottomed out way more than us. We actually never have been bottom in the history of our club. In fact I think our lowest ever ladder position is about 4 from the bottom.

 

[TBoyleSuperstar]

It certainly forced his hand during the draft and trade period.

Pretty sure Pert said something like this on Open Mike. Jolly and Ball came into the club on the back of Mick having one final crack at it.

 

[The Blue Baggers]

a big big thank you to the fat controller for changing coaches when the magpies were @ their peak !!

 

[DuckToaster]

Pretty sure Pert said something like this on Open Mike. Jolly and Ball came into the club on the back of Mick having one final crack at it.

Mick does not like trading aggressively, he likes to coach "his boys". It's part of the reason why Collingwood over achieved in the early 2000's. It will be interesting to see what he does at Carlton this upcoming off season.

 

[TooUglyForFugly]

Despite how overbearing McGuire's presence is, I would prefer to wish for other clubs' declines.

Partly because Collingwood slipping down the rungs will provoke him.

 

[theta]

Wouldn't of won 2010 without the succession plan.

Red herring

 

[Masto]

Their defensive structures are questionable and their midfielders are one-way runners. I was amazed at the space our players had when we ran forward. Honestly, we should have kicked 25 goals today with the amount of space they gave us.

 

[Demonalke]

Red herring

How?

 

[Adam H]

From us having a poor list that was cruelled by injury, which caused us to lose games. "Not having the cattle" was what Malthouse termed it, I believe. Not sure how we were meant to get more out of our list in 2004/2005.

So in other words you finished down the bottom.

 

[theta]

I tuned into ed and derm just to see eddies fat sad head. Was worth it.

 

[ThatsjustDappa]

Pretty sure Pert said something like this on Open Mike. Jolly and Ball came into the club on the back of Mick having one final crack at it.

I'm a bit suspicious of Pert claiming that, any coach would trade if they thought the team were a chance for a premiership as chances don't come around that often.