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DEVO said:
Nope. Nankervis, a Collywobbler and a Dog.
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DEVO said:
Nope. Nankervis, a Collywobbler and a Dog.
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I checked (out of curiosity). This was the dogs goal - I don't have any software to accurately check frame by frame. The next frame that I could get was showing the ball after it bounced.

I'm sure the ARC would have made 100% sure the ball had fully crossed the line.

The magpie one was a good snap and the tigers one was also the kind that normally gets on - I was suspicious that they'd make G1K the pick of the week. No minor effort so I'm not knocking Franklin for what he's achieved. My cynicism was more targeted at the media cronies who like to lick the nuts of our sporting heros far more often than they ought to.

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Red Og Murphy: Former North Melbourne prospect dies aged 21​

North Melbourne are in shock following the sudden death of 21-year-old Red Og Murphy.

Nick Smart

North Melbourne is mourning the shock, sudden passing of former Kangaroo Red Og Murphy in Ireland.
Murphy, who died aged just 21, was on the Roos’ list in 2019 after being taken as a Category B rookie from his home club in county Sligo.

He played 12 VFL games but never made his senior debut.

Family and the authorities in Ireland are yet to confirm the cause of death.

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North Melbourne chief executive Ben Amarfio expressed his condolences to the Murphy family.

“On behalf of everyone at the club, I would like to pass on my deepest sympathies to the Murphy family at this difficult time,” Amarfio said.

“Our thoughts are with those closest to Red Og, his family and friends in his home in Ireland, and all those who played and worked alongside him and became friends with him during his time at North Melbourne.”

Upon his return to Ireland, Murphy starred for his local club Curry GAA and county Sligo.

Murphy’s neighbour and Sligo county councillor Martin Connolly told the Irish Examiner of the widespread shock following Murphy’s death.

“The parish of Curry is speechless,” Mr Connolly said.

“Red Óg was probably one of the finest footballers that came out of the area.

"He played for Curry GAA club. He and the Murphy family are highly respected.”

North Melbourne players and officials will wear black armbands in honour of Murphy in the match against the Brisbane Lions on Saturday night.
 

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Orange Peanut said:


Hate to go all you-know-who, and sorry if this has been discussed elsewhere. But I think this is the biggest simp/cuck load of crap our club has ever posted.
And to accompany it with a pic of our skipper failing to catch him? 🤮
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I don’t have a problem with it but can understand if some don’t like it.
 
Orange Peanut said:


Hate to go all you-know-who, and sorry if this has been discussed elsewhere. But I think this is the biggest simp/cuck load of crap our club has ever posted.
And to accompany it with a pic of our skipper failing to catch him? 🤮
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Now if they would have used 1 of the following pics, at least it would have brought back some great memories:

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Orange Peanut said:


Hate to go all you-know-who, and sorry if this has been discussed elsewhere. But I think this is the biggest simp/cuck load of crap our club has ever posted.
And to accompany it with a pic of our skipper failing to catch him? 🤮
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Saw this and thought similar.
 
DaveyBoy123 said:
Now if they would have used 1 of the following pics, at least it would have brought back some great memories:

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I’m sure that it came with a chuckle from the commentary team about how ‘wily’ and smart Selwood was being.
Followed up ten minutes later by calls to ban Thomas for the game after being coat hangered.
 
Orange Peanut said:


Hate to go all you-know-who, and sorry if this has been discussed elsewhere. But I think this is the biggest simp/cuck load of crap our club has ever posted.
And to accompany it with a pic of our skipper failing to catch him? 🤮
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I wanted to post this too. Are we trying to poach him for a coaching gig? It’s the only reason to justify this garbage. Why don’t we put up something nice about Mitchell and hey Louis too next.
Yeah, let put a plug out for the guys who flew the flag for their team against us
 
koshari said:
So Kennet's a racist.
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I think we already knew that last century.

There were rumours about this. But is anyone who hadn't heard them surprised? Its pretty obvious why Rioli just left his club in the middle of the season?
 

The Tackle: Mark Robinson’s likes and dislikes from round 3 of the 2022 AFL season​

When the going got tough, Richmond used to get going. Not any more — three weeks in and maybe not even Dusty could save them, Mark Robinson writes.

Mark Robinson

April 3, 2022 - 7:00PM

DISLIKES​

1. The pain game​

When does footy flip from it being “they’re very young’’ to it being totally unacceptable? Who knows, but it has flipped at the Kangaroos. Saturday was a painful day after North lost the AFL and the VFL by more than 200 points combined. This is a club crisis. Clearly, there’s not enough talent, responsibility and desire in the footy squad. If the players say any different, they’d be lying. There’s talk and then there’s actions. Against the Lions, their pressure rating was 164 which is the third-lowest of any team this year. That’s a total disdain for one of the key ingredients of competing. Coach David Noble was disgusted with the performance. He used words such as embarrassed, accountability, intent, energy and exposed in his press conference. After three rounds, the spotlight is squarely on the players and the coach, for 100-point losses is indicative of a breakdown in buy-in, direction and leadership. What a horrible day for the club and for the fans who are trying to remain patient.

2. What’s their brand?​

The Hawks are young, the Crows are young and, at the weekend, Adelaide knocked over Port and Hawthorn ran Carlton to a point when it was 41 points down in the second quarter. They’re having a dip, the Hawks, and the Crows are batting two out of three in terms of competitiveness. We can see a brand. North is what exactly? Tough? Young? Run? Chaos? Control? Ball movement? When you look at the Kangaroos, you see pain and you see very little to hang your hat on. This week, it’s Sydney in Sydney and the football program is on notice.

3. When the going gets tough​

The Tigers used to answer that ditty with ‘the tough get going’. Not any more. Against Carlton in round one, they gave up 47-7 in the final quarter. On Sunday afternoon against St Kilda, it was 64-6 from halfway through the third quarter. What happened in both games? They gave up the fight for the contested ball. And not just a minor loss, but a pounding. This midfield group, which we’ve talked about for so long is done. And if your midfield is done, your game is in big strife. St Kilda lifted as a collective in the second half and the Tigers didn’t have a response. Dustin Martin would help if he was available, and if he watched last night, he’d know the team is crying out for him to assist in stopping this slide. Still, not sure Dusty alone can turn it around.

4. Can we get more from Chad?​

Former North Melbourne coach Dani Laidley once said something like this of a Brent Harvey 32-possession game: ‘That’s three minutes of the game, what’s he doing for the other 97 minutes?’ The same can be asked of Chad Wingard and he’s not getting anywhere near Harvey’s brilliant 30. Wingard is a freaky player, but he’s a floater, and he’s not doing enough in what is becoming a permanent forward role under coach Sam Mitchell. In round one, he kicked two goals in three minutes in the fourth quarter and was quiet for the rest of the game. In round two, he kicked two goals from three touches and was subbed out in the second quarter with an injury. On Sunday, he had 12 disposals and only two score involvements and his one goal was a Joe the Goose kick from Luke Bruest. His pressure was solid, but he’s too talented not to have a greater influence on the scoreboard.

4. Sam Mayes and Travis Boak

A million mistakes were made by Port Adelaide on Friday night. Two of the most telling were Travis Boak’s missed shot for goal with 90 seconds to play and Sam Mayes’ hit on Lachlan Murphy. Boak will be hurting, no doubt, but his positives outweigh his negatives. Mayes’ hit, however, was plain idiocy in the moment. Why did he have to be so aggressive? Why the swinging arm? Surely the message was sent about there being only a minute remaining. Don’t they train for this scenario? Like, keep composed, play the percentages, play safe, get it to the line, no stupid free kicks. Mayes made a mistake, but it was costly. It was a game loser.

5. Jeff Kennett tear down​

The Hawks president can fight his own battles, but the fallout over his joke about the ripped jeans, which led to Cyril Rioli’s retirement, is extreme. The story read like a hit job on Kennett because the racism allegedly directed at Rioli from teammates was — from this position — far worse than a quip at an airport from a 70-year-old man who thought it would be funny. Is it a Kennett problem or an all-club problem? Because if the racism from teammates was swept under the carpet, there’s the issue. I’m not beginning to think this 55-year-old male white man can say how Indigenous people should act or behave, but ripped jeans? We are all trying to learn and understand the different layers of racism and intergenerational trauma towards our First Nation people and this situation has me confused. And the group demanding Kennett step down immediately is nothing more than political point scoring. Kennett can be a goose and he has a track record for being loose with his mouth, but this a club issue, not a Kennett issue.

LIKES​

1. Jade the blade​

We’re taking that nickname from former Richmond stand-in coach Jade Rawlings and giving it to St Kilda’s midfield dynamo Jade Gresham. Max King dominated in the final quarter yesterday, and he has emerged as a real matchwinner, but King was the recipient of some powerful and collective work from St Kilda higher up the ground, led by Gresham. He had 32 disposals, 18 contested possessions and 10 score involvements which is a truly influential game in the middle. The Saints have some pluck. That’s twice in two weeks they’ve swam against the tide late in the game and claimed victories and just maybe that mid-year summit in Sydney last year while in lockdown might prove to be the turning point for this playing group. The Saints certainly think so.

1. A fitter Zac​

Prized recruit Zac Williams arrived at Carlton for the 2021 season below the preferred fitness requirements and it didn’t go unnoticed. If you take the cash then you have to make a splash. His 2022 season has started much better. Clearly fitter, Williams is playing the kind of footy which helped put the orange in the orange tsunami at the Giants. In round one, he took Dustin Martin when Martin played forward and more than held his own. In round two, he had 27 disposals against the Bulldogs. On Sunday, he had Dylan Moore and Luke Breust mainly, and, although those two were threats — Moore kicked two goals on him — Williams caught them out with his rebound. He had the most metres gained (623) and another 27 possessions against the Hawks. He’s making a splash.

3. The intoxicating Pies​

OK, who picked this from the Magpies? And ‘this’ is intoxicating ball movement, young spunk and an adventurous attitude. You have to wonder if former coach Nathan Buckley — who admitted on Saturday night he was sacked — had earmarked an overhaul in game style if, indeed, he had kept his job. The Pies are playing like they played under Buckley in 2018. Somehow along the line it became too stagnant under Buckley with what probably was an over emphasis on careful. Buckley set foundations, however. He invested in Isaac Quaynor, for example, and, one week (round four, 2021) was criticised for playing his young defender on Toby Greene, who kicked five goals. It was live and learn for Quaynor who is a sensational young defender and symbolic of the 2022 Pies.

4. Mr Relentless​

An all encompassing Saturday night for Joel Selwood. Was booed all night by Pies fans but that’s OK, it’s part of the tribal theatre. Twice he was caught with the ball from behind, which is rare. When you’re almost 34, you think: Is he too slow? Is he losing awareness and periphery? Then he plays out the final couple of minutes with a will power so few players possess. The golden oldies turned it on in the final quarter when it was needed with a little help, mind you, from a player named Brad Close who has tricks as a mid-sized forward.
 
leighlee13 said:

The Tackle: Mark Robinson’s likes and dislikes from round 3 of the 2022 AFL season​

When the going got tough, Richmond used to get going. Not any more — three weeks in and maybe not even Dusty could save them, Mark Robinson writes.

Mark Robinson

April 3, 2022 - 7:00PM

DISLIKES​

1. The pain game​

When does footy flip from it being “they’re very young’’ to it being totally unacceptable? Who knows, but it has flipped at the Kangaroos. Saturday was a painful day after North lost the AFL and the VFL by more than 200 points combined. This is a club crisis. Clearly, there’s not enough talent, responsibility and desire in the footy squad. If the players say any different, they’d be lying. There’s talk and then there’s actions. Against the Lions, their pressure rating was 164 which is the third-lowest of any team this year. That’s a total disdain for one of the key ingredients of competing. Coach David Noble was disgusted with the performance. He used words such as embarrassed, accountability, intent, energy and exposed in his press conference. After three rounds, the spotlight is squarely on the players and the coach, for 100-point losses is indicative of a breakdown in buy-in, direction and leadership. What a horrible day for the club and for the fans who are trying to remain patient.

2. What’s their brand?​

The Hawks are young, the Crows are young and, at the weekend, Adelaide knocked over Port and Hawthorn ran Carlton to a point when it was 41 points down in the second quarter. They’re having a dip, the Hawks, and the Crows are batting two out of three in terms of competitiveness. We can see a brand. North is what exactly? Tough? Young? Run? Chaos? Control? Ball movement? When you look at the Kangaroos, you see pain and you see very little to hang your hat on. This week, it’s Sydney in Sydney and the football program is on notice.

3. When the going gets tough​

The Tigers used to answer that ditty with ‘the tough get going’. Not any more. Against Carlton in round one, they gave up 47-7 in the final quarter. On Sunday afternoon against St Kilda, it was 64-6 from halfway through the third quarter. What happened in both games? They gave up the fight for the contested ball. And not just a minor loss, but a pounding. This midfield group, which we’ve talked about for so long is done. And if your midfield is done, your game is in big strife. St Kilda lifted as a collective in the second half and the Tigers didn’t have a response. Dustin Martin would help if he was available, and if he watched last night, he’d know the team is crying out for him to assist in stopping this slide. Still, not sure Dusty alone can turn it around.

4. Can we get more from Chad?​

Former North Melbourne coach Dani Laidley once said something like this of a Brent Harvey 32-possession game: ‘That’s three minutes of the game, what’s he doing for the other 97 minutes?’ The same can be asked of Chad Wingard and he’s not getting anywhere near Harvey’s brilliant 30. Wingard is a freaky player, but he’s a floater, and he’s not doing enough in what is becoming a permanent forward role under coach Sam Mitchell. In round one, he kicked two goals in three minutes in the fourth quarter and was quiet for the rest of the game. In round two, he kicked two goals from three touches and was subbed out in the second quarter with an injury. On Sunday, he had 12 disposals and only two score involvements and his one goal was a Joe the Goose kick from Luke Bruest. His pressure was solid, but he’s too talented not to have a greater influence on the scoreboard.

4. Sam Mayes and Travis Boak​

A million mistakes were made by Port Adelaide on Friday night. Two of the most telling were Travis Boak’s missed shot for goal with 90 seconds to play and Sam Mayes’ hit on Lachlan Murphy. Boak will be hurting, no doubt, but his positives outweigh his negatives. Mayes’ hit, however, was plain idiocy in the moment. Why did he have to be so aggressive? Why the swinging arm? Surely the message was sent about there being only a minute remaining. Don’t they train for this scenario? Like, keep composed, play the percentages, play safe, get it to the line, no stupid free kicks. Mayes made a mistake, but it was costly. It was a game loser.

5. Jeff Kennett tear down​

The Hawks president can fight his own battles, but the fallout over his joke about the ripped jeans, which led to Cyril Rioli’s retirement, is extreme. The story read like a hit job on Kennett because the racism allegedly directed at Rioli from teammates was — from this position — far worse than a quip at an airport from a 70-year-old man who thought it would be funny. Is it a Kennett problem or an all-club problem? Because if the racism from teammates was swept under the carpet, there’s the issue. I’m not beginning to think this 55-year-old male white man can say how Indigenous people should act or behave, but ripped jeans? We are all trying to learn and understand the different layers of racism and intergenerational trauma towards our First Nation people and this situation has me confused. And the group demanding Kennett step down immediately is nothing more than political point scoring. Kennett can be a goose and he has a track record for being loose with his mouth, but this a club issue, not a Kennett issue.

LIKES​

1. Jade the blade​

We’re taking that nickname from former Richmond stand-in coach Jade Rawlings and giving it to St Kilda’s midfield dynamo Jade Gresham. Max King dominated in the final quarter yesterday, and he has emerged as a real matchwinner, but King was the recipient of some powerful and collective work from St Kilda higher up the ground, led by Gresham. He had 32 disposals, 18 contested possessions and 10 score involvements which is a truly influential game in the middle. The Saints have some pluck. That’s twice in two weeks they’ve swam against the tide late in the game and claimed victories and just maybe that mid-year summit in Sydney last year while in lockdown might prove to be the turning point for this playing group. The Saints certainly think so.

1. A fitter Zac​

Prized recruit Zac Williams arrived at Carlton for the 2021 season below the preferred fitness requirements and it didn’t go unnoticed. If you take the cash then you have to make a splash. His 2022 season has started much better. Clearly fitter, Williams is playing the kind of footy which helped put the orange in the orange tsunami at the Giants. In round one, he took Dustin Martin when Martin played forward and more than held his own. In round two, he had 27 disposals against the Bulldogs. On Sunday, he had Dylan Moore and Luke Breust mainly, and, although those two were threats — Moore kicked two goals on him — Williams caught them out with his rebound. He had the most metres gained (623) and another 27 possessions against the Hawks. He’s making a splash.

3. The intoxicating Pies​

OK, who picked this from the Magpies? And ‘this’ is intoxicating ball movement, young spunk and an adventurous attitude. You have to wonder if former coach Nathan Buckley — who admitted on Saturday night he was sacked — had earmarked an overhaul in game style if, indeed, he had kept his job. The Pies are playing like they played under Buckley in 2018. Somehow along the line it became too stagnant under Buckley with what probably was an over emphasis on careful. Buckley set foundations, however. He invested in Isaac Quaynor, for example, and, one week (round four, 2021) was criticised for playing his young defender on Toby Greene, who kicked five goals. It was live and learn for Quaynor who is a sensational young defender and symbolic of the 2022 Pies.

4. Mr Relentless​

An all encompassing Saturday night for Joel Selwood. Was booed all night by Pies fans but that’s OK, it’s part of the tribal theatre. Twice he was caught with the ball from behind, which is rare. When you’re almost 34, you think: Is he too slow? Is he losing awareness and periphery? Then he plays out the final couple of minutes with a will power so few players possess. The golden oldies turned it on in the final quarter when it was needed with a little help, mind you, from a player named Brad Close who has tricks as a mid-sized forward.
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BoomerRoo said:
Fair call.........
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Let's see if they'll still remember it when we come calling for that PP. Pretty sure the same thing was said after the Doggies game last year.
 
Cool Kangas said:
There’s a HUN story re Carey’s opinion of North. Anyone have access?
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North Melbourne great Wayne Carey has lashed Roos players for getting ahead of themselves after last week’s win over a “WAFL side” and questioned the club’s lack of progress this year.
The Roos have only a solitary win over Covid-ravaged West Coast from the first three rounds with few signs of progress in a 108-point loss coach David Noble labelled as “unacceptable”

Noble has warned his side there will be “consequences” over skill errors so bad the Roos gave up 80 points from turnovers, with Sydney awaiting at the SCG then the Western Bulldogs and Geelong.

The greatest Roo in the club’s 97-year VFL-AFL history said he was mystified how the club’s strong momentum in the last half of 2021 had evaporated.

The King has spoken and he doesn't like what he's seen from the Roos.

The King has spoken and he doesn't like what he's seen from the Roos.
“Let’s be honest, they beat a WAFL team by 15 points last week, they sung the song like it was a Grand Final,” Carey told Triple M.

“Don’t get me wrong in the position they are in, it was the first win for a long time and they wanted to sing the song but they sung it like they had won a grand final.

“Under the circumstances and what West Coast had been put through that was over the top and it carried through to the weekend. They are that far off it, it’s not funny.

“I said last year they wouldn’t win a game and they finished off last year fairly strongly.

“I thought they were competitive, they never got flogged in the last 10 games apart from one game.

“Where have they gone? A whole summer, number one draft pick, other kids into the club, strength and fitness that’s built over five or six years. You should be on the improve and unfortunately that’s an absolute shellacking.”
 
Marstermind said:
North Melbourne great Wayne Carey has lashed Roos players for getting ahead of themselves after last week’s win over a “WAFL side” and questioned the club’s lack of progress this year.
The Roos have only a solitary win over Covid-ravaged West Coast from the first three rounds with few signs of progress in a 108-point loss coach David Noble labelled as “unacceptable”

Noble has warned his side there will be “consequences” over skill errors so bad the Roos gave up 80 points from turnovers, with Sydney awaiting at the SCG then the Western Bulldogs and Geelong.

The greatest Roo in the club’s 97-year VFL-AFL history said he was mystified how the club’s strong momentum in the last half of 2021 had evaporated.

The King has spoken and he doesn't like what he's seen from the Roos.'t like what he's seen from the Roos.

The King has spoken and he doesn't like what he's seen from the Roos.
“Let’s be honest, they beat a WAFL team by 15 points last week, they sung the song like it was a Grand Final,” Carey told Triple M.

“Don’t get me wrong in the position they are in, it was the first win for a long time and they wanted to sing the song but they sung it like they had won a grand final.

“Under the circumstances and what West Coast had been put through that was over the top and it carried through to the weekend. They are that far off it, it’s not funny.

“I said last year they wouldn’t win a game and they finished off last year fairly strongly.

“I thought they were competitive, they never got flogged in the last 10 games apart from one game.

“Where have they gone? A whole summer, number one draft pick, other kids into the club, strength and fitness that’s built over five or six years. You should be on the improve and unfortunately that’s an absolute shellacking.”
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Thanks for sharing.
 
When you’ve won 7 games in 2 years and have a few blokes play in their first win I can’t see an issue with singing the song with a bit of gusto

What a load of wank, up there with Bevo needs to shave his summer moustache and Max Gawn needs a better haircut
 
Waynes comments come across as those of one of a supporter who left the ground last Sunday feeling like shit.
JHF Corr Greenwood they locked in their first win and regardless of how shit we played they should celebrate it.

I reckon Duck had the right idea regarding how delusional we were to take anything positive away from last weeks game, but to have a go at the song is misplaced.
 
Uncle_Leo said:
When you’ve won 7 games in 2 years and have a few blokes play in their first win I can’t see an issue with singing the song with a bit of gusto

What a load of wank, up there with Bevo needs to shave his summer moustache and Max Gawn needs a better haircut
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Tend to agree,,,,AND in context, always exciting getting a players first win and in particular for the Hornet.
 
Carey sounds like some rando who hasn't watched a North game in years and gets his opinions from a mate who sometimes listens to Kane Cornes.
 
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