List Mgmt. Contract, Trade and Draft Discussions - 2024 Edition

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Latest news and rumours:

• Tom Barrass officially requests trade to Hawthorn
  • Duffield: Eagles want two first round picks - "It may have to be in this year’s draft rather than a future pick."
  • Morris: Josh Battle is set to join Barrass at Hawthorn in 2025 - Ralph: Unclear if Hawks will pay enough for Band 1

• Kysaiah Pickett interested in a trade
  • "Club and management are confident they can work through his concerns"
  • Daniels: Pickett’s preference is Fremantle. Fremantle are keen, but Bolton the priority. Getting both “not impossible”. West Coast “an option if things get complicated.”

• Jai Culley, Coen Livingstone, Loch Rawlinson in line for one-year deals (The West)
  
  
• Liam Baker and Shai Bolton
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  Shai Bolton

  Age

  26

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  176cm

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  77kg

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  M/F

  Career

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  12.3

  3star

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  6.9

  3star

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  5.4

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  2.8

  3star

  T

  2.9

  4star

  CL

  1.4

  4star

  D

  12.7

  3star

  K

  9.2

  4star

  HB

  3.5

  2star

  M

  3.0

  3star

  T

  2.7

  4star

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  1.8

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  9.2

  3star

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  4.6

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  4.6

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  M

  2.0

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  2.6

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  officially request trades to WA
  • Daniels: Bolton is Fremantle’s priority

 

[CountryLad]

Congratulations on plucking Reid from obscurity in the draft, Bond. What a find! Kudos to the team for turning a junk pick into rolled gold

Indeed Archer looks a promising prospect

 

[BOND 007]

Congratulations on plucking Reid from obscurity in the draft, Bond. What a find! Kudos to the team for turning a junk pick into rolled gold

I agree - I think Archer will be OK.

If you're talking about the other one - then your sarcasm is noted

 

[DanWCE]

I agree - I think Archer will be OK.

If you're talking about the other one - then your sarcasm is noted

What other one?

 

[eaglevision]

Disagree on both fronts. Baker would be a very good addition at WC as a senior player in the age group WC lack quality in.

And if he chooses to go down the road - then I imagine that would have ramifications for kids like Johnson and Erasmus who are now either playing out of preferred position or not at all and waiting for the likes of Fyfe & Omeara to retire & or be perma injured.

That’s a fair argument and I agree he would be a good acquisition especially because of his leadership and versatility but not at the draft cost which would be splitting our R1 and using a pick on him that would likely need to be as good as Freo’s best 1R. Our F1 would be too much, our F2 too little and I don’t think we’re in a position to be trading future picks when we’re not likely to get close to the same value for them than if they are used next year. If the Suns are desperate to get more picks into next year’s draft a swap of their end 1R and our F2 might be mutually beneficial but again I don’t think Richmond accept that and I’d rather take it to the draft.

I’m very much hoping Baker gets to the Dockers and shakes those young fringe midfielders loose as well as costing them a 1R pick which will give them less access talent in the draft who might also be of interest to WC.

 

[eaglevision]

Glad to see our recruiting staff are smart enough to see his qualities even if some of the nuffies on here aren’t.

The difficult job will be finding something that the tigers are happy to accept without compromising our draft position.

I don’t think anyone here is saying that Baker lacks qualities we need (I’m certainly not), the argument is the draft cost. What “something” could we possibly find that the tigers are happy with without compromising our draft position? They are going to want a top 15 pick minimum, probably more.

 

[Get_The_Gaff]

What other one?

Phillip read duh !

 

[squashface]

What other one?

 

[Kapowie1]

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[mat11]

We do, but I don’t see Baker or Clarke ripping off Richmond. The club surely isn’t going to split out 1R to get Baker. Our 2R will be 25ish and I think we’d rather use that on Buss. F2 might be put on the table but again Richmond would knock that back. Baker for Freo’s middle 1R pick is where I reckon it’s going to land. Would much rather use free agency to get 26yo.

If we could convince him to sign with Richmond for one more year through to FA then offer him a band 1 contract THAT would be enticing for both clubs. Probably ends up pick 4-6 for Richmond and nothing draft wise for us.

Id be a bit disappointed with R2 on buss personally at this stage, parity wafl/vfl stats to bazzo no afl appearance yet. What Makes things worse last years kpb were stacked out till r5 could of been the perfect year to cash in on say a zz, murphy schoe

Freo and Baker is plain dumb, that teams stacked with the same midfielder traits. They prob dumb enough to throw 2 first at him in spite of west coast

 

[Elite Pete]

Let’s hope this NGA and FS matching comes in this year.

It would stink if we miss out on two top 30 picks the year before it’s introduced considering where we sit.

 

[Deplorable trumpster]

Richmond are not putting Baker up for sale to get a pick in the 25 plus range. I think they will want a first rounder for him at a minimum.

But if Richmond are expecting pick 6 or something like that for him from Freo then i think they are going to be very disappointed. Just because Freo has some early picks doesn't mean they are going to overpay for him or pay Richmond what they want. Thats the false assumption that the people quoted in that article are making. Just because a club has the kind of picks you want doesn't mean they will be willing to pay the price you want and trade the them to you.

They also speculate that our new list manager would refuse to try and get Baker through the PSD if we won the spoon because of residual loyalty to Richmond. If that is the case then we have hired the wrong bloke to be our list manager. He need to be up for acting in our best interests (as long as it is within the rules) at all times with all situations. Thats what he is being paid to do. Anything less than that is not good enough.

 

[Deplorable trumpster]

If Freo do take Baker and it costs them a first rounder and a load of money to do it the silver lining for us in that is that it puts them in a weaker position to compete with us for whatever other WA origin players looking to move home who come on the market in the next few years. I won't be that disappointed to lose out on Baker and if Freo burn resources on him then that might be to advantage next year or the year after.

 

[BOND 007]

Richmond are not putting Baker up for sale to get a pick in the 25 plus range. I think they will want a first rounder for him at a minimum.

But if Richmond are expecting pick 6 or something like that for him from Freo then i think they are going to be very disappointed. Just because Freo has some early picks doesn't mean they are going to overpay for him or pay Richmond what they want. Thats the false assumption that the people quoted in that article are making. Just because a club has the kind of picks you want doesn't mean they will be willing to pay the price you want and trade the them to you.

They also speculate that our new list manager would refuse to try and get Baker through the PSD if we won the spoon because of residual loyalty to Richmond. If that is the case then we have hired the wrong bloke to be our list manager. He need to be up for acting in our best interests (as long as it is within the rules) at all times with all situations. Thats what he is being paid to do. Anything less than that is not good enough

What they want and what they get are 2 different things. Baker is a great kid - fantastic character and a wonderful young man - but anyone who thinks he is worth a pick greater than 20-25, I think has hit the pub a bit early today.

 

[DanWCE]

What they want and what they get are 2 different things. Baker is a great kid - fantastic character and a wonderful young man - but anyone who thinks he is worth a pick greater than 20-25, I think has hit the pub a bit early today.

Is it a sugar hit risk to use our early second on him? I've advocated for using an end of first/start of second PP on him but if we don't get PP I'm not completely sold on using our pick, unless we are turning our own list over to generate picks. If that is the case we are hardly flush with desirable players that are also surplus to needs

 

[briztoon]

Is it a sugar hit risk to use our early second on him? I've advocated for using an end of first/start of second PP on him but if we don't get PP I'm not completely sold on using our pick, unless we are turning our own list over to generate picks. If that is the case we are hardly flush with desirable players that are also surplus to needs

Until clubs have a clear view of the draft pool, that's not an easy question to answer.

 

[stallon]

Is it a sugar hit risk to use our early second on him? I've advocated for using an end of first/start of second PP on him but if we don't get PP I'm not completely sold on using our pick, unless we are turning our own list over to generate picks. If that is the case we are hardly flush with desirable players that are also surplus to needs

not like we are short on kids, if our 2nd is around pick 30 again we are probably better off getting Baker, unless there is a decent KPD likely going around that pick

 

[stallon]

Richmond are not putting Baker up for sale to get a pick in the 25 plus range. I think they will want a first rounder for him at a minimum.

To be fair theyre not putting him for sale regardless. If he wants to leave, hes going to leave, itd be up to Richmond to find the best deal they can knowing that hes already gone

 

[Tugga27]

not like we are short on kids, if our 2nd is around pick 30 again we are probably better off getting Baker, unless there is a decent KPD likely going around that pick

Can't see Richmond accepting pick 30 for Baker.
We just haven't got the draft capitol for him.

 

[stallon]

Can't see Richmond accepting pick 30 for Baker.
We just haven't got the draft capitol for him.

If Baker wants to come to us because we have offered him 200k a year more than Freo have offered, what else are the Tigers going to do? We could throw in a future pick too to sweeten the deal

 

[Spooky17]

BOND 007 always appreciate your contributions. Question - is Buss a realistic target for us this year? Are you concerned with our current KPD stocks? Cheers.

 

[BOND 007]

BOND 007 always appreciate your contributions. Question - is Buss a realistic target for us this year? Are you concerned with our current KPD stocks? Cheers.

He is one person I think would add value to the club.
I think anyone can see the potential hole behind McGovwrn and Barrass

 

[WCE_18]

BOND 007 How are you viewing this years draft crop? Is it fair to say the top tier talent is more even than last year?

 

[BOND 007]

BOND 007 How are you viewing this years draft crop? Is it fair to say the top tier talent is more even than last year?

Very talented group. Maybe not as good as last years but deeper especially mids

 

[eaglespremiers]

Sid draper is rising up the charts for me.

Pretty impressive for a player who has been sitting out with a stress facture for the first part of the season.

 

[CountryLad]

Pretty impressive for a player who has been sitting out with a stress facture for the first part of the season.

Was just about to say the same. Sid has been popular in here this week but let’s at least wait until we see him play this year