List Mgmt. Contract, Trade and Draft Discussions - 2024 Edition

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Latest news and rumours:

• Tom Barrass officially requests trade to Hawthorn
  • Duffield: Eagles want two first round picks - "It may have to be in this year’s draft rather than a future pick."
  • Morris: Josh Battle is set to join Barrass at Hawthorn in 2025 - Ralph: Unclear if Hawks will pay enough for Band 1

• Kysaiah Pickett interested in a trade
  • "Club and management are confident they can work through his concerns"
  • Daniels: Pickett’s preference is Fremantle. Fremantle are keen, but Bolton the priority. Getting both “not impossible”. West Coast “an option if things get complicated.”

• Jai Culley, Coen Livingstone, Loch Rawlinson in line for one-year deals (The West)
  
  
• Liam Baker and Shai Bolton
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  officially request trades to WA
  • Daniels: Bolton is Fremantle’s priority

 

[Avalor]

Will McLachlan kicked 5 today for Geelong Falcons, kicked a bag of 6 and 5 twice now.
Beautiful left footer, half forward type.
Reckon he or Hutchinson are going pick 1 in the MSD.

Another couple I like for MSD and were quite good in the young guns games.
Oskar Smart, smaller type but with zip and can dance his way through traffic. Played midfield but reckon he's a small forward at AFL, been playing VFL for bombers.
O'Leary as above, elite runner and beautiful kick. Moves like Papley, but less physical.
Uerata is as mentioned a real project player, but has some nice moves and skill. I'd say he's years away from playing AFL though.
More of a write up, when I finish the games.

The other I really liked but for national draft is Cooper Hynes, 190cm mid with a beautiful kick. He was really good for Vic Country vs Young guns. Just checked and he kicked 5 today along with 23 disposals. Remember the name!!!

Would be great to have another Hynes at the Eagles.

 

[mattyc75]

Without yeo you are asking Reid and ginbey to get smashed pillar to post every game playing inside mid .

Who else to come in culley isn't ready and hall is also a new draftee .

We have no back up inside mids .

Hately is a big body and a good inside mid but he can't really play any other position .

Bout time trew got an extended run, we need to give him a go at inside mid

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[Notmuchofanexpert]

Is Leek Aleer gettable? He is behind Taylor, Buckley and Himmelberg all of which are around the mid twenties. May cost something big as he is contracted to 2025, but could be a good addition if Buss or Curtin stay put. Food for thought.

 

[Get_The_Gaff]

Bout time trew got an extended run, we need to give him a go at inside mid

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Yep that should certainly happen as he is next in line but he is out with concussion atm

 

[southcoast]

Bout time trew got an extended run, we need to give him a go at inside mid

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Even if Trew selected still won’t resolve the issue of a predominantly young bodied midfield. Now be Reid, Gibney and Trew with Kelly and Sheed to assist.

Reeks of 2023 times again.




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[Dom sheed pocket]

Even if Trew selected still won’t resolve the issue of a predominantly young bodied midfield. Now be Reid, Gibney and Trew with Kelly and Sheed to assist.

Reeks of 2023 times again.




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This is a good point, but I disagree with the 2023 comparison.

I’d ask a question of those suggesting Trew should come in. What is the purpose of bringing in a player likely to be delisted at the end of the year?

It’s not like Trew is a Brodie type who can shield Reid/Ginbey etc.

I’d rather lose while giving more midfield time to Ginbey and Chesser and bringing in Johnston for a full game then just bringing in a guy who we think isn’t part of our long term future.

Tom Mitchell has appendicitis and De Goey has groin soreness so they’re missing a few in the middle as well.

 

[stallon]

This is a good point, but I disagree with the 2023 comparison.

I’d ask a question of those suggesting Trew should come in. What is the purpose of bringing in a player likely to be delisted at the end of the year?

It’s not like Trew is a Brodie type who can shield Reid/Ginbey etc.

I’d rather lose while giving more midfield time to Ginbey and Chesser and bringing in Johnston for a full game then just bringing in a guy who we think isn’t part of our long term future.

Tom Mitchell has appendicitis and De Goey has groin soreness so they’re missing a few in the middle as well.

Yep their midfield will likely be mostly Daicos, Pendlebury and Crisp. Crisp and Pendles are big bodied but theyre not a yeo/degoey type who will just go through you.
Id back Reid, Ginbey, Chesser and Kelly with the odd Petch/Sheed pinch hit to at least not get destroyed in there.
Trew not needed, a replacement inside mid not needed

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

Without yeo you are asking Reid and ginbey to get smashed pillar to post every game playing inside mid .

Who else to come in culley isn't ready and hall is also a new draftee .

We have no back up inside mids .

Hately is a big body and a good inside mid but he can't really play any other position .

Its up to Dom Sheed to do that in all reality. He should be better then Hatley so let him be better.

Outside of that id also say Zane Trew deserves one last go at it before we bring Hatley into that mix to be a stopgap

 

[PRANKSTER666]

Surely we are talking to Sheldrick's manager and last year I was saying we should be talking to Will Brodie

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[Keys]

This is a good point, but I disagree with the 2023 comparison.

I’d ask a question of those suggesting Trew should come in. What is the purpose of bringing in a player likely to be delisted at the end of the year?

It’s not like Trew is a Brodie type who can shield Reid/Ginbey etc.

I’d rather lose while giving more midfield time to Ginbey and Chesser and bringing in Johnston for a full game then just bringing in a guy who we think isn’t part of our long term future.

Tom Mitchell has appendicitis and De Goey has groin soreness so they’re missing a few in the middle as well.

I agree Trew is likely to be delisted and arguably should’ve been last year.

That said, presumably we kept him on the list because we thought he might come good with some continuity which he hasn’t really had during his time at the club.

With that in mind, with Yeo out there’s an opening in the midfield at the coalface which is his strength and prior to his concussion he’d been the best performing mid for the Beagles

Might as well give him a crack to see if he can lift to AFL level so that we make an informed decision when delisting him

 

[Dom sheed pocket]

I agree Trew is likely to be delisted and arguably should’ve been last year.

That said, presumably we kept him on the list because we thought he might come good with some continuity which he hasn’t really had during his time at the club.

With that in mind, with Yeo out there’s an opening in the midfield at the coalface which is his strength and prior to his concussion he’d been the best performing mid for the Beagles

Might as well give him a crack to see if he can lift to AFL level so that we make an informed decision when delisting him

My question is - what is the purpose behind that? What are you achieving out of bringing in Trew?

Assuming we have Ginbey and Chesser in the team because we have faith they are part of our future.

The choice then becomes giving additional responsibility to players who you think are part of your long term future or bringing in players who you think most likely are not.

Bringing in Trew means Johnston doesn’t play, and Ginbey/Chesser are on the flanks/outside type roles.

You’re missing a development opportunity for all 3 by bringing in Trew just the small inside benefit Trew brings.

Personally, it’s not logical to me. And my gut feel is Simmo is leaning in to the blokes he think will be around in 3-5+ years.

It’s worthwhile making a mid the sub so not opposed to Trew as sub as that gives us some flexibility with internal roles.

 

[Bacchus]

I agree Trew is likely to be delisted and arguably should’ve been last year.

That said, presumably we kept him on the list because we thought he might come good with some continuity which he hasn’t really had during his time at the club.

With that in mind, with Yeo out there’s an opening in the midfield at the coalface which is his strength and prior to his concussion he’d been the best performing mid for the Beagles

Might as well give him a crack to see if he can lift to AFL level so that we make an informed decision when delisting him

The list has gaping holes in it as we all know.

The midfield, which is the most poorly stocked area, is very exposed with Yeo’s injury.

Trew as you point out has had no continuity but he has shown some ability in the handful of games he has played at the top level.

Surely he has to be selected now with Yeo injured and Sheed and Gaff fallen off their respective cliffs. Hall is not ready, and there is no-one else. Overworking and exposing Reid, Ginbey and Chesser (?) is likely to result in their respective breakdowns.

For the above reasons, namely that we are so thin in the midfield, I wouldn’t mind us recruiting someone like Jack Graham as a FA. He is no star but a solid experienced body able to protect our younger midfielders coming through and relieve players like Yeo and Kelly so they are not overworked and then injured.

 

[eaglespremiers]

Similar to Reid and you wouldn't take him? Need a Yeo replacement. A beast and bull one two from the centre for years to come. What's not to like?

He does have a propensity to butcher the ball by foot.

 

[Bacchus]

My question is - what is the purpose behind that? What are you achieving out of bringing in Trew?

Assuming we have Ginbey and Chesser in the team because we have faith they are part of our future.

The choice then becomes giving additional responsibility to players who you think are part of your long term future or bringing in players who you think most likely are not.

Bringing in Trew means Johnston doesn’t play, and Ginbey/Chesser are on the flanks/outside type roles.

You’re missing a development opportunity for all 3 by bringing in Trew just the small inside benefit Trew brings.

Personally, it’s not logical to me. And my gut feel is Simmo is leaning in to the blokes he think will be around in 3-5+ years.

It’s worthwhile making a mid the sub so not opposed to Trew as sub as that gives us some flexibility with internal roles.

I would say the purpose is so Ginbey and Reid etc don’t burnout too early.

The best teams such as Geelong and Collingwood gradually integrate young players into the midfield rather than handing over full responsibility immediately like NM.

 

[Dom sheed pocket]

I would say the purpose is so Ginbey and Reid etc don’t burnout too early.

The best teams such as Geelong and Collingwood gradually integrate young players into the midfield rather than handing over full responsibility immediately like NM.

We are talking about most likely one game.

I agree we asked too much of Ginbey last year over the course of the year, but this is quite different. It could be a galvanising moment for them. Think our game against Collingwood 2022 or Hawks v Collingwood last game.

And it’s not like Trew is some experienced depth player. He’s not much older than Chesser or Ginbey, just less a less likely type.

 

[Bacchus]

We are talking about most likely one game.

I agree we asked too much of Ginbey last year over the course of the year, but this is quite different. It could be a galvanising moment for them. Think our game against Collingwood 2022 or Hawks v Collingwood last game.

And it’s not like Trew is some experienced depth player. He’s not much older than Chesser or Ginbey, just less a less likely type.

I won’t stake too much on promoting Trew’s cause.

He has had a number of chances and hasn’t taken them and is lucky to still be on the list.
I still remember Peter Sumich’s description of him and possibly Sumich has been totally vindicated.

My concern is that very young players are thrown like lambs to the slaughter.
I don’t think the game v Collingwood in 2022 proved anything. It was merely a flickering flame that went out quickly.
I don’t recall the Collingwood v Hawthorn game you refer to.

At this point, we don’t know how long Yeo will be out for.

 

[CursoryMercenary]

As much as Yeo has boosted us this season, I would still likely rather he leave for another club and for us to be compensated with a likely top 10 pick. If we can draft two more guns in the draft it will set us up nicely for the next part of our rebuild.

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[Eastcoasteagle]

Similar to Reid and you wouldn't take him? Need a Yeo replacement. A beast and bull one two from the centre for years to come. What's not to like?

Haha, he's not Reid and not even close. Some where between Reid and Hall, I think our contested young mids is fine for now and he wouldn't be top of my list for that reason;

• Reid
• Hall
• Ginbey
• Hewett (he's a balanced mid but has great aggression and a very solid contested game)
• Culley (if needed)

I'd be looking to add some variety to that midfield and probably more of a balanced midfielder if I was to add to the current list. That's why I currently lean to FOS, Smith or Draper.

I also think Smillie's best football could be off half back, quarterback distributer style ala Luke Hodge.

 

[twce13]

As much as Yeo has boosted us this season, I would still likely rather he leave for another club and for us to be compensated with a likely top 10 pick. If we can draft two more guns in the draft it will set us up nicely for the next part of our rebuild.

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Top 10 pick isn't likely due to age. In fact even band 2 would be unlikely.

For what we would realistically get, we are much better having him stick around. He is extremely valuable resource for the growth of our kids.

 

[Dom sheed pocket]

As much as Yeo has boosted us this season, I would still likely rather he leave for another club and for us to be compensated with a likely top 10 pick. If we can draft two more guns in the draft it will set us up nicely for the next part of our rebuild.

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We are not getting a top ten pick for Yeo.

 

[eaglevision]

Top 10 pick isn't likely due to age. In fact even band 2 would be unlikely.

For what we would realistically get, we are much better having him stick around. He is extremely valuable resource for the growth of our kids.

Yep. The FA compo would be band 3 at absolute best. Likely to be a pick in the mis 30s. He’ll stay.

 

[CursoryMercenary]

Top 10 pick isn't likely due to age. In fact even band 2 would be unlikely.

For what we would realistically get, we are much better having him stick around. He is extremely valuable resource for the growth of our kids.

Doesn't he have to be in the top % of earners for his next club ? Then he'll go band 1 ?

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[CursoryMercenary]

Yep. The FA compo would be band 3 at absolute best. Likely to be a pick in the mis 30s. He’ll stay.

Fair enough if that's the case.

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[Dom sheed pocket]

Haha, he's not Reid and not even close. Some where between Reid and Hall, I think our contested young mids is fine for now and he wouldn't be top of my list for that reason;

• Reid
• Hall
• Ginbey
• Hewett (he's a balanced mid but has great aggression and a very solid contested game)
• Culley (if needed)

I'd be looking to add some variety to that midfield and probably more of a balanced midfielder if I was to add to the current list. That's why I currently lean to FOS, Smith or Draper.

I also think Smillie's best football could be off half back, quarterback distributer style ala Luke Hodge.

Thoughts on Moraes and how he could compliment Reid, Ginbey, Hewett and Hall?

 

[Jumpoff Joey]

Yeo is better to have in the side than a top 10 pick.

Kelly/Yeo allows Reid/Ginbey to learn and protect them as they get seasons under their belt. If Yeo goes, then expect a repeat if 2023.

The kids are still not at that level and Kelly cant do it all. I still think Redden could have held on which would be really helpful right about now.