List Mgmt. Contract, Trade and Draft Discussions - 2024 Edition

[Keys]

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Latest news and rumours:

• Tom Barrass officially requests trade to Hawthorn
  • Duffield: Eagles want two first round picks - "It may have to be in this year’s draft rather than a future pick."
  • Morris: Josh Battle is set to join Barrass at Hawthorn in 2025 - Ralph: Unclear if Hawks will pay enough for Band 1

• Kysaiah Pickett interested in a trade
  • "Club and management are confident they can work through his concerns"
  • Daniels: Pickett’s preference is Fremantle. Fremantle are keen, but Bolton the priority. Getting both “not impossible”. West Coast “an option if things get complicated.”

• Jai Culley, Coen Livingstone, Loch Rawlinson in line for one-year deals (The West)
  
  
• Liam Baker and Shai Bolton
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  Shai Bolton

  Age

  25

  Ht

  176cm

  Wt

  77kg

  Pos.

  M/F

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  12.3

  3star

  K

  6.9

  3star

  HB

  5.4

  4star

  M

  2.8

  3star

  T

  2.9

  4star

  CL

  1.4

  4star

  D

  12.7

  3star

  K

  9.2

  4star

  HB

  3.5

  2star

  M

  3.0

  3star

  T

  2.7

  4star

  CL

  1.8

  4star

  D

  9.2

  3star

  K

  4.6

  2star

  HB

  4.6

  4star

  M

  2.0

  3star

  T

  2.6

  4star

  CL

  0.0

  1star

  officially request trades to WA
  • Daniels: Bolton is Fremantle’s priority

 

[mattyc75]

Knock on Sheldrick was his defensive game I believe.
It's why he wasn't getting a game at the start of this season despite their extensive injuries to the midfield at the time.

If a midfielder can't be bothered chasing and working with the teams defensive structure they aren't worth it. And if he can't work out that he needs to start working on it then he's not worth it

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[kane249]

If a midfielder can't be bothered chasing and working with the teams defensive structure they aren't worth it. And if he can't work out that he needs to start working on it then he's not worth it

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Also see W.Brodie at Fremantle as another example

 

[Monocle]

If a midfielder can't be bothered chasing and working with the teams defensive structure they aren't worth it. And if he can't work out that he needs to start working on it then he's not worth it

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Don Sheed described to a tee.

 

[eaglespremiers]

What's the **** Tobie travaglia is 187 cm. The dude taking a bunch of intercepts is only 187cm.

Seriously I thought he was 192cm plus taking intercept marks as a tall defender.

That was his selling point marking and kickig. The short dude isn't going to translate to AFL as an elite Backman by basing his game around intercept marking.

My want for him has tanked. A 187cm defender with his game being at excelling marking and kicking is no way worth it.

What a poor take. Do better.

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[eaglevision]

Might need a 3rd rounder for Malakai after all. Flip of the coin with Ralph.

 

[Elite Pete]

Is Sheldrick going to be this years Dev?

Been several ‘this years Dev’ on this boarf.

Don’t understand why people cry about players from other clubs getting mentioned on here. It is a draft and Trade page?

Also plenty of blokes we missed out on playing regular footy this year who people don’t want because they didn’t play very week for their club last year. Mass and Bramble would fit nicely across half back for us for nothing.

Not everyone has to be a home run, load some bases first

 

[Eastcoasteagle]

Might need a 3rd rounder for Malakai after all. Flip of the coin with Ralph.

Interesting stuff, wonder what happens if Malakai is bid on at 41. Surely we just use our next pick to match, essentially they'd had the same value.

Also that reads as if academy players for all clubs can be matched anywhere.

 

[mattyc75]

Don Sheed described to a tee.

Unfortunately he gets games

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[Get_The_Gaff]

Our forward line will work just fine with Allen waterman and the back up ruck .

Waterman in his running/roaming forward role .

Allen CHF which suits him as a lead up marking type forward .

Jack Williams is the one we need coming out of the square. The kid who is still 20 has a massive frame and when he fills out at his 198cms he will be that Quinton lynch / tom Hawkins

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Tom Hawkins

Age

36

Ht

197cm

Wt

105kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.2

3star

K

7.9

3star

HB

4.4

3star

M

5.5

5star

T

1.9

4star

G

2.1

5star

D

12.7

3star

K

8.6

3star

HB

4.1

3star

M

5.1

5star

T

2.1

3star

G

1.6

5star

D

7.8

2star

K

5.6

3star

HB

2.2

2star

M

4.2

4star

T

1.0

3star

G

2.2

5star

power forward size .

He is already really good at using his body to out manoeuvre his opponents taking some strong pack marks with strength alone .

He has also shown he uses his body better than bailey in the ruck around the ground on the big boys in witts , gawn and O'Brien

 

[Bender_]

Is Sheldrick going to be this years Dev?

Geez I hope we get him, otherwise we'll need to rethink our whole drafting strategy.

 

[eaglevision]

Geez I hope we get him, otherwise we'll need to rethink our whole drafting strategy.

Just means Zane Trew will get another year.

 

[eaglevision]

New poll up for our 1R draft pick for anyone who wants to give their two cents worth.

 

[Elite Pete]

Aries leg off half back wouldve been handy.

 

[briztoon]

Might need a 3rd rounder for Malakai after all. Flip of the coin with Ralph.

Carlton potentially have the number 1 pick in 2026 draft with father son Cody Walker.

 

[dajesmac]

What's the **** Tobie travaglia is 187 cm. The dude taking a bunch of intercepts is only 187cm.

Seriously I thought he was 192cm plus taking intercept marks as a tall defender.

That was his selling point marking and kickig. The short dude isn't going to translate to AFL as an elite Backman by basing his game around intercept marking.

My want for him has tanked. A 187cm defender with his game being at excelling marking and kicking is no way worth it.

Sicily is only 189cm.

I reckon most of these draftee heights might've been taken end of last year. For instance Smillie I'm certain was 194cm late last year and this is still his listed height - I reckon he might be 197+ come draft combine. Tyler Welsh is still listed as 191cm and I'm certain that will change.

Travaglia doesn't turn 18 until the 26th of October. Him growing to 190+ seems like a relatively safe bet IMO.

 

[eaglesnutcase]

Didn't he play round 1?

Our forward line will work just fine with Allen waterman and the back up ruck .

Waterman in his running/roaming forward role .

Allen CHF which suits him as a lead up marking type forward .

Jack Williams is the one we need coming out of the square. The kid who is still 20 has a massive frame and when he fills out at his 198cms he will be that Quinton lynch / tom Hawkins power forward size .

He is already really good at using his body to out manoeuvre his opponents taking some strong pack marks with strength alone .

He has also shown he uses his body better than bailey in the ruck around the ground on the big boys in witts , gawn and O'Brien

Agree totally. JD needs a rest and JW come in with OA and Jake. JD is not the future. Use him as cover and cannon fodder. Start getting the three younger boys melding

 

[eaglespremiers]

Sicily is only 189cm.

I reckon most of these draftee heights might've been taken end of last year. For instance Smillie I'm certain was 194cm late last year and this is still his listed height - I reckon he might be 197+ come draft combine. Tyler Welsh is still listed as 191cm and I'm certain that will change.

Travaglia doesn't turn 18 until the 26th of October. Him growing to 190+ seems like a relatively safe bet IMO.

I'll ask him on Sunday if his height has changed this year.

 

[maverick001]

Most of us consider Shep a reach at pick 7. I'd say he would still be a reach up until pick 15 (I still personally think reach until pick 17).

Also he was pick 7 drafted as an intended midfielder

Why compare him to Shepard? He doesn't project as the same type of player. Typically, the best rebounding HBFs go in the range of about pick 6 - 16. Which is TT's range, but probs more towards the back of that range than the front, like 13-16.

And, anyway, is Shep worth a pick 13-16. You bet he is.

 

[Keys]

Had a look back at the 2009 draft

With the benefit of hindsight the only players I’m taking before Sheppard at pick 7 are

Definitely
• Martin (3)
• Fyfe (20)
• Gawn (34)

Maybe
• Cunnington (5)
• Talia (13)
• Jetta (14)
• Duncan (28)
• Gunston (29)

He wasn’t a bad get for a pick 7 even if he was considered a reach at the time

 

[mattyc75]

Had a look back at the 2009 draft

With the benefit of hindsight the only players I’m taking before Sheppard at pick 7 are

Definitely
• Martin (3)
• Fyfe (20)
• Gawn (34)

Maybe
• Cunnington (5)
• Talia (13)
• Jetta (14)
• Duncan (28)
• Gunston (29)

He wasn’t a bad get for a pick 7 even if he was considered a reach at the time

Shep was a midfielder when drafted right? We were lucky he was able to become the backman he did

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[ghostbat12]

Shep was a midfielder when drafted right? We were lucky he was able to become the backman he did

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No he was hbfer we thought had midfield potential.

You walked right into that one…

 

[Rooboy1708]

Just had a quick look at the average age and games/experience for us in the first half of the season.



Age (Years)

We have been the younger team in 69% of our games by an average of roughly 3 months.

Not won a game where our average age is greater than 25.5

Our averaging winning age (25.36) is less than our averaging losing age (25.47) #playthekids

8th youngest team on average 25.45

AFL Average: 25.7

Oldest: Pies 27.5

Youngest: North 24



Experience (Games)

We have been the team with the least experience in 62% of games by an average of 3.42 games.

One win we had less experience (Melbourne) & in the other two wins (Tigers & Freo) we were the more experienced team.

Our average winning experience (95.06) is also less than our average losing experience (95.8) #playthekids

9th least experience team on average 95.63 games.

AFL Average: 99.3

Most experienced: Geelong 125.9

Least Experienced: North 69.6

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As an oppo supporter I like this analysis. If you took out darling and add in Reid as outliers you would find that your average games would significantly reduce meaning that one player distorts the numbers

 

[Keys]

Shep was a midfielder when drafted right? We were lucky he was able to become the backman he did

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And Fyfe was drafted as a skinny half forward

 

[AsterixTheGaul]

This talk about chasing the Warner Brothers is too soon. It will cost at least a pick 2 or 3 and maybe more

I would personally wait another 2 years before we start picking off players, preferably those that are FA and when we have the cap space to blow away matching it.

 

[Elite Pete]

This talk about chasing the Warner Brothers is too soon. It will cost at least a pick 2 or 3 and maybe more

I would personally wait another 2 years before we start picking off players, preferably those that are FA and when we have the cap space to blow away matching it.

If Warner who is OOC at the end of next season says he wants to come home. You 100% have a crack and if he picks the Eagles as his destination you get the trade done. The acceleration a player does of the quality to a rebuild is next level and also helps keep Reid around. The unknown of what pick 3 turns out to be doesn’t. Could be a Dow/Philips ect