List Mgmt. Contract, Trade and Draft Discussions - 2024 Post Season

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Trade period
In: 12, F1, F2, F3, 73, Baker, Owies, Graham*
Out: 3, 63, F4, Barrass, Darling

*Free agent

Done deals

• Jai Culley, Alex Witherden
  23

  Alex Witherden

  Age

  26

  Ht

  188cm

  Wt

  85kg

  Pos.

  Def

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  20.7

  5star

  K

  15.2

  5star

  HB

  5.5

  4star

  M

  6.2

  5star

  T

  1.8

  4star

  MG

  386.5

  5star

  D

  13.0

  3star

  K

  10.0

  4star

  HB

  3.0

  2star

  M

  7.0

  5star

  T

  0.0

  1star

  MG

  201.0

  3star

  D

  24.0

  5star

  K

  15.4

  5star

  HB

  8.6

  5star

  M

  5.8

  5star

  T

  2.2

  4star

  MG

  380.2

  5star

  and Coby Burgiel delisted
  • Burgiel to be considered as a train on player

• Tom Barrass traded to Hawthorn
  • In: F1, F2, F3 (HAW)
  • Out: Barrass, F4

• Liam Baker and Matt Owies join West Coast in Pick 3 trade
  • In: Baker, Owies, 12, 73
  • Out: 3, 63, 68

• Jack Darling traded to North Melbourne for Pick 67

• Jack Graham joins West Coast as UFA

• Jake Waterman re-signs with West Coast until at least 2029

• Zane Trew, Jamaine Jones
  31

  Jamaine Jones

  Age

  26

  Ht

  180cm

  Wt

  80kg

  Pos.

  D/F

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  9.0

  2star

  K

  4.8

  2star

  HB

  4.2

  3star

  M

  2.1

  2star

  T

  3.8

  5star

  MG

  159.6

  3star

  D

  10.5

  3star

  K

  6.5

  3star

  HB

  4.0

  3star

  M

  2.5

  3star

  T

  4.0

  5star

  MG

  196.5

  3star

  D

  9.0

  3star

  K

  4.2

  2star

  HB

  4.8

  4star

  M

  2.4

  3star

  T

  4.2

  5star

  MG

  166.0

  3star

  and Jordyn Baker delisted

• Archer Reid (2027), Loch Rawlinson (2025), and Coen Livingstone (2025) sign extensions

 

[ThePuma #9]

With pick 13, we still should get one of Travsglia, Lindsay, Berry or Tauru

Now to work on the sweetner

Pick 30
F2
F1 with F2 going back
Ward

Push for the Future First but when they refuse dig our heels in and ask for Pick 30. Next years draft will be so compromised a small upgrade on a pick means nothing. I'd prefer another quality player in this years draft.

 

[eaglespremiers]

Pick 13 and a F1 is more value than pick 9

Sure is, but for what it's worth I think Barrybran is trying to find a middle ground between pick 13 (what Hawthorn will likely want to pay) and pick 13 and Hawthorn's F1 (our alleged asking price).
When it's all said and done we might get pick 13 and their F1st, however, I think, on the balance of probabilities, that this won't be the eventual outcome.

 

[ThePuma #9]

Left field suggestion - Hawks trade 13 + F1 to Freo for 9 + 17, trade 9 to us and keep 17 for themselves. Pick swaps to even things up. We take 3, 9, 23 to the draft.

I'd take that but doubt it will happen. They'd never get Bolton with pick 13.

 

[eaglevision]

Barrass for 13 and F1
3,13 for 6,9,10
F2 for GCS 26
Darling and salary for 40

6-Best mid
9-Travaglia
10-Lindsay
23-O’Farrell
26-Mraz
40-Johnson
59-Dennis
Rookie-Boxshall
Rookie-Artemis

Delist/Retire (9)
Jones, Gaff, Witherden, Rotham, Trew, LEdwards, Baker, Culley, Sheed (medical)

 

[Barrybran]

Sure is, but for what it's worth I think Barrybran is trying to find a middle ground between pick 13 (what Hawthorn will likely want to pay) and pick 13 and Hawthorn's F1 (our alleged asking price).
When it's all said and done we might get pick 13 and their F1st, however, I think, on the balance of probabilities, that this won't be the eventual outcome.

It's also a middle ground that allows Hawthorn to give up two firsts but get one back for themselves rather than running the gauntlet with giving us an F1 for our F2 and our fortunes changing. We would rather the two firsts of course.

 

[Eastcoasteagle]

Will Dev request a trade to West Coast?

No, he'll stay and fight for his spot.

 

[Barrybran]

I'd take that but doubt it will happen. They'd never get Bolton with pick 13.

They'd have to give up both picks - 13 + Hawthorn's F1. More likely they'd have to give up pick 10 and keep 13 for themselves.

 

[RanaNaved]

No, he'll stay and fight for his spot.

 

[eaglespremiers]

3,13 for 6,9,10

That's optimistic IMO.
I think we'd have to include pick 23 to at least make it ball park.

 

[Astro7]

As much as I dislike Port, I am supporting them tonight.

It makes me feel grubby

Feel the same, but any non-vic team is ok with me this time of year.
Not to mention the draft pick.
Was shouting at the TV and Port like it was an Eagles game.
As it turned out was a great finish, but they have a history, so their next game is a concern.

 

[eaglevision]

That's optimistic IMO.
I think we'd have to include pick 23 to at least make it ball park.

It’s very optimistic. If the brass insist on Baker then can add him and 23 to the trade.

Richmond will value picks less than usual so if they want to upgrade to pick 3 they can pay through the teeth. If not I’m very comfortable taking FOS, Jagga or Draper at 3 and no way am I trading it for a “fair” deal.

 

[Dale Doback]

I think with Tom they win that game as was previously stated. He'd have been the best key defender on the park tonight. They could have left Sicily in defense and pushed Tom forward with his vice like hands, a concept which was beyond Simpson. Battle isn't in Tom's league, he was a free kick UFA, so they will pay the price for Tom I think. Pick 13 is clearly not enough.

 

[PremiershipNo4]

Allen no.

Waterman yes for overs.

Changed my mind based on his level of commitment shown.

Your honesty is refreshing, and I’ve always enjoyed your posts. I once genuinely believed Tom Swift was the next big thing for WC, I might have got that a little bit wrong

 

[kerrazy]

Would take 13 and f1 for barrass and f3

Or

13 and 30/f2 nothing going back.

Any less and I'll melt.

 

[PremiershipNo4]

Bit of an oxymoron post this one.

Our weakest link is Williams, so DON'T trade him? Okeydoke.

Fact is, it was pretty obvious he was totally lost as a forward when Flynn played. Any idiot could see that was going to happen.

When he rucks solo he plays his best footy but still battles out of his weight and makes spud oppo rucks look like prime Dean Cox. We can't allow it to continue.

Flynn has been incredibly disappointing, but Williams really has no long term future in this side IMO. Unless the club buries it's head in the sand and carries on conceding the ruck taps.

Then there's Barnetts development, gee whiz. Our rucks really are the worst part of our list right now, and that's saying something given it's been our pedestrian midfield for a long time.

To another club Williams has quite a good highlights package, he's an athletic specimen and gets his hands dirty. For a club with a better midfield, he could work, or a club backing themselves to get more out of him as a forward than we have.

He's most definitely worth something IMO.

So you would like to trade BWilliams and leave us with……….

 

[random260]

So did everything go to plan?

Hawk lose
Hawks lose because of KPD?

 

[Goroyals22]

So you would like to trade BWilliams and leave us with……….

No one would almost be an upgrade


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[MaxHunt]

Barrass for 13 and F1
3,13 for 6,9,10
F2 for GCS 26
Darling and salary for 40

6-Best mid
9-Travaglia
10-Lindsay
23-O’Farrell
26-Mraz
40-Johnson
59-Dennis
Rookie-Boxshall
Rookie-Artemis

Delist/Retire (9)
Jones, Gaff, Witherden, Rotham, Trew, LEdwards, Baker, Culley, Sheed (medical)

Not interested in Champ?

 

[mat11]

So we go to the draft with (vague guess)

3 turns into 4- fos/langford/draper/jagga
13 turns into 16?- Lindsay/tauru/allan/berry
23 turns into 30?- davis/offarel/mraz/hynes
59 prob come back to 45ish- dennis/malakai
Hawks f1

 

[random260]

If we get

Pick 3 Sid Draper
Pick 13 Tobie
Pick x Champion

I'll be happy. Make Tobie happen either move up or something

 

[AsterixTheGaul]

That's optimistic IMO.
I think we'd have to include pick 23 to at least make it ball park.

Do not undersell the value of 3

 

[eaglevision]

Not interested in Champ?

I am but not going to lie I’m not sure at what point I’d match a bid on him. Certainly wouldn’t want to use a pick before 35 and possibly 40 but if our 2R pick is 23 then our next one is 59 then it’s a no brainer.

Will really depend on where any Darling (or other potential 2R/early 3R) picks fall. I’d really be pushing North to get 40, 58 and 64 for Darling and either of BWilliams or Petch.

 

[mattyc75]

So you would like to trade BWilliams and leave us with……….

Just get Eastland to nominate and rookie list him. Similar age and height but can ruck and is better around the ground

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[Miguel Sanchez]

Just get Eastland to nominate and rookie list him. Similar age and height but can ruck and is better around the ground

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Eastland’s two years older, 2cm shorter and doesn’t have Williams’ leap.

I think we saw with the Strnadica experiment that the “just go get a wafl ruckman” is fraught because there’s actually a bit of a gap between the leagues.

 

[amazingjoshy]

While I do think the Hawks will win one within the next few years, I also agree with some on here that think they may inititially slide a little next year. And that's the last thing they'll be expecting too

Alot of the rise this year was on the back of gameplan, if they get a little worked out and with a top 6 draw a small slide is definitely not out of the question. Getting our hands on their F1 could be a very smart piece of business

If we can get an F3 or 40 this year for JD plus salary, and then sending that with TB for 13 + F1 I reckon that's a pretty big win.

Alternatively
13 + 30 for TB
40 for JD plus salary

Taking 3, 13, 23, 30, 40, 59 isn't too bad either

Working Baker in for anything more than a F2 or 23 just isn't worth it any way you look at it